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Pixie2019 · 08/08/2020 11:45

We have recently been sent a profile for a sibling set of three, we had been considering siblings but max 2. It's a strong profile but we need to seriously consider the impact of 3 kids arriving at once and how our lives might be if we were all together! I would love to hear experiences from anyone that has adopted a sibling set of 3.
I'm flipping between fear that it will be overwhelming and then the thought that it could actually be pretty wonderful!

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Ted27 · 08/08/2020 17:57

What do you mean by a strong profile?

I stuck at one so can't offer personal experience but you don't need me to tell you it would be a huge undertaking.
I'd start with the practical stuff - can you afford three, is your house/car big enough. How far apart are they in age.
What are their needs? Can you spread yourself across three children, is one of you prepared to be a stay at home parent for a considerable time, possibly forvever.
What support is the LA offering?
Its a huge decision, good luck.

Patchyman1 · 08/08/2020 18:02

Sorry, we didn't go for 3, but did go for 2 at once. They were both under 3 when they arrived. What ages are the 3 you are looking at?
Pros have been, they stayed together, will always have each other for shared background, we only have 1 birth family to deal with and we always wanted 2 so just thought why not go for 2 together and not go through the process twice!
Cons are they are both very demanding of attention, have very different needs, both very controlling especially when playing together. They are very hard work even now they are older. Both were in nursery together do that was expensive. Oh and nobody (grandparents etc) will have them both at the same time as they are just too much. We have had 1 night out together in 6 years!
That said, we love them to bits, they are our children and we'll deal with whatever comes our way!
That said

Pixie2019 · 08/08/2020 18:45

Strong as in they are everything we were looking for, just one extra! We can do finances but obviously we would have less disposal income for three than we would two, we have space, work should be fine because I can work from home, partner is on call at home a lot and also have flexible hours. We have a large support network etc. One school age and two under four.

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Patchyman1 · 08/08/2020 18:49

Believe me we have both tried to work from home during lockdown with them both at home and it doesn't work. We had a strong network going into this but the childrens needs mean that others just can't manage them so it is down to us. And even when they are at school we spend so much time there with appointments, meetings etc

Ted27 · 08/08/2020 19:42

Ok reality check, you will not be able to work from home with three children rattling about the place.

Ted27 · 08/08/2020 19:51

Sorry clicked too soon.

I have several friends with three birth children, none of them managed to keep both parents in work when they were that age, and they were securely attached children with no additional needs who arrived one at a time.
One of you will need to commit to being at home full time,unless you both go part time and split the week between you.
If nothing else you will be running around between schools, nursery, play groups. Even without factoring in any special needs it's a huge logistical operation.
I think you are underestimating the amount of work here and the impact it will have on you.

bigloungewear · 08/08/2020 20:01

Hi. From personal experience adopting three children. It has changed my life entirely, similar ages when we adopted. I was not able to work after they came though I had planned to go back
4 days a week. We are more than 6 years in and neither of us can rest. Children bring a lot to your life. Traumatised children bring a lot more to your life. We are just about holding on with a lot of therapeutic support over years, the kids didn't have any outstanding needs identified at placement. Good luck whatever you decide to do, you are very welcome to pm me

Pixie2019 · 08/08/2020 20:29

Hi, sorry it wasn't clear. I could work from home and the child care would be with my partner as they are on call. If called into work, I can log off and take over child care until they come back.

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Pixie2019 · 08/08/2020 20:31

@bigloungewear

Hi. From personal experience adopting three children. It has changed my life entirely, similar ages when we adopted. I was not able to work after they came though I had planned to go back 4 days a week. We are more than 6 years in and neither of us can rest. Children bring a lot to your life. Traumatised children bring a lot more to your life. We are just about holding on with a lot of therapeutic support over years, the kids didn't have any outstanding needs identified at placement. Good luck whatever you decide to do, you are very welcome to pm me
Thank you, it's going to take a bit of thought and we have given ourselves two weeks to think of finances, practicalities, etc. I just thought some real life experiences would help with that
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Yolande7 · 08/08/2020 22:19

We adopted two and have had a fairly easy ride so far. We have experienced a lot, but all at the very mild end. My children are doing well. However, I don't think we could have managed three without compromising our care.

Your children will need all you have got to give. They will all have additional needs (and possibly special needs or mental health problems). Most likely things will get more complicated during the teenage years.

sunshineandskyscrapers · 08/08/2020 23:03

Adopting three immediately makes me think of the documentary seies Love is not enough, which is fairly dated but so worth watching for anyone preparing to adopt. All episodes are here vimeo.com/showcase/2529993
One of the couples adopts a sibling group of three. It almost breaks them but in the end they push through.

Years later they went on to adopt a second group of three, which is not shown in the programme but they are both bloggers so there is plenty online about their story, search for Al Coates.

For me personally I think a ratio of 1:1 works well so as a single adopter I stopped at one.

If you have any friends with three small children I would definitely recommend spending time with them either as a family or offering to babysit just to see what it's like having to meet the needs of three small people all at the same time, even if that won't give you the full picture of what it will be like to parent these particular three.

TwoPlusthreeplusone · 08/08/2020 23:14

Hi,
A few years ago we adopted three - 2 school age (only just) and one pre school & in the next few weeks hope to bring their sibling home.
Luckily we have had no major problems/dramas - all 3 are settled at at school, all doing well socially, emotionally and educationally. They are totally thriving with us and even after this long we are still seeing so many positive changes in their behaviour.

Some may say 3 is too many in one go I would say it depends on the children & your personal setup - I returned to work after 1yr and currently work 30hrs p/w in frontline NHS.

We are all so excited about baby sibling no 4 joins us soon
So my advice is never say never !!!

Allington · 08/08/2020 23:41

One thing to ask about is a sibling assessment, by practitioners who understand factors such as trauma bonds. Is there a positive reason for keeping the siblings together that is grounded in their actual relationship, rather than a rose tinted assumption about sibling relationships in general?

Pixie2019 · 10/08/2020 11:16

@TwoPlusthreeplusone

Hi, A few years ago we adopted three - 2 school age (only just) and one pre school & in the next few weeks hope to bring their sibling home. Luckily we have had no major problems/dramas - all 3 are settled at at school, all doing well socially, emotionally and educationally. They are totally thriving with us and even after this long we are still seeing so many positive changes in their behaviour. Some may say 3 is too many in one go I would say it depends on the children & your personal setup - I returned to work after 1yr and currently work 30hrs p/w in frontline NHS. We are all so excited about baby sibling no 4 joins us soon So my advice is never say never !!!
Thank you!
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Pixie2019 · 10/08/2020 11:17

@Allington

One thing to ask about is a sibling assessment, by practitioners who understand factors such as trauma bonds. Is there a positive reason for keeping the siblings together that is grounded in their actual relationship, rather than a rose tinted assumption about sibling relationships in general?
Thanks, I hadn't heard of the assessment. If we decide to get more info I will def ask about it x
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LittleMapleLeaf · 10/08/2020 14:21

Hi Pixie

We have just adopted three siblings who moved in about five months ago, similar ages to the children you are considering. It’s obviously very early days still but at this point it feels like it’s been the right thing for us as a family, with these specific children.

We were in a slightly different situation as we were open to sibling groups of two or three from the start - we always said that we wanted to look at the overall package of needs/challenges of each sibling group whether they were a two or a three. In reality we considered far more twos than threes - many of the groups of three we looked at had more significant needs than we thought we could meet. We found it quite surprising the level of needs/known risk factors that many trios had where LAs were still seeking a placement for them all together. There were definitely issues/risks/challenges that we were willing to consider for a sibling group of two that we weren’t for a sibling group of three given that having an extra child creates more unknowns/uncertainties as well as splitting your time and attention.

There were lots of positive factors in our LOs’ profiles and background which gave us the confidence to say yes to them - I won’t share any specifics. We also had really good quality input, responses to queries etc from their LA and the matching process was really positive in terms of information sharing. In terms of all three arriving at once, I think we just accepted that life would be completely different from our previous life from day 1 and the adjustment hasn’t been as bad as I feared. We definitely prepared for the worst case scenario so maybe that’s what’s made it feel ok! I think we have benefited significantly from the routines, boundaries and parenting approach of their previous foster carer, which is similar to what we would want for family life, which made the transition to us a lot easier.

Life is busy and full but at this point our family life doesn’t feel particularly different from friends we know with three children, with all of the competing for attention and adults being outnumbered and sibling issues. We’re aware that this could change significantly as our children settle further and grow up and that the ‘unknown unknowns’ are the biggest risk factor. As and when issues emerge then having three children makes it harder to meet individual needs as well as we would with one or two children. This is why we wanted to make sure that some of the ‘known’ risk factors were lower before we took a group of three children - but there is still huge uncertainty as with any adoption.

Financially, in addition to the general cost increase of having another child (which will only increase over time!) we had to buy a much larger car as they are all at the age where they need bulkier car seats rather than just booster seats. Our three are not really ‘hard to place’ except for the fact that they are a group of three - but we were offered financial support from the placing LA, both settling in grant, funding to cover one-off costs and the possibility of adoption allowance. They were also open to paying for a cleaner for a few months to make things a bit easier post-placement (I know this probably makes them vanishingly rare!) although this was promptly kiboshed by Covid. It’s worth asking about this up front as you might be surprised.

I have a full year off work and my OH had about 12 weeks off after placement, made up of annual leave and shared parental leave. This was really crucial - and OH has been on much more flexible hours since he went back due to Covid which has also been helpful in settling in. I will probably take an additional 8 months or so career break after that and at this point going back to work part-time feels feasible but of course it’s still very early days so things could change. We had built up enough savings by the point of placement for me to be able to take another two years off work if necessary and then rethink work options for both of us.

We decided that these were the right children for us, weighing up everything we knew about them and the various risks and uncertainties, including the innate complexity of a third child in the mix. It wouldn’t be the right decision for everybody - we love our new little family and at this point it is working well, the LOs are natural playmates and have a shared history but we’re aware that the road ahead could be far rockier.

Please do PM me if that would be helpful.

MiriamShepherd · 19/10/2020 14:28

@sunshineandskyscrapers do you have a link to the blog, I always wondered what came next for that couple but can’t find them online

justonemorecrisp · 19/10/2020 15:37

It will depend a lot on the siblings' life experiences to date, and their relationships with one another, and also on how accurate the information you have received to date is. It will also depend on your own parenting skills and personal skills and your approach to life too. There are some lovely positive stories here.

sunshineandskyscrapers · 19/10/2020 18:28

@MiriamShepherd

This is Al's
www.alcoates.co.uk/?m=1

And this is Paula's
paulacoatesblog.blogspot.com/?m=1

justonemorecrisp · 19/10/2020 19:59

Those blogs seem extraordinarily negative. If they couldn't cope first time round (they are still blogging about not being understood and not understanding) it seems odd that they decided to go through it again.

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