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Adults adopted as babies. *LONG POST, May be upsetting*

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smokeandglitter · 06/07/2014 00:50

Hello,

I wondered if you could pick the bones of something and offer some new information or studies on it that you might know of. It is a very long post and may be upsetting for those experiencing problems with their children (emotional/mental health).

I'm not a new mumsnetter, but a bit of a lurker sometimes, and have commented a couple of times on the adoption forum as an adopted child (now adult). This question is personal, but also with interest from a wider aspect (my sister, other people I know or may come to know). I've done quite a bit of reading myself, having had mental health problems, studied psychology and - partly because of these - having an interest in trying to get myself well, learn more or find the root of those illnesses, but I'm struggling to find reliable info on this (most seem to be awful newspaper articles or very results biased).

I was adopted at 4 months old, but in many ways showed emotional difficulties of a child who had been developed at a later age. This was 1991 (born 90), my parents had no follow up help and only limited information swinging between "She might look cute now, but she'll grow up just like her birth mum" and "A baby doesn't bear the brunt of any lasting effects".

I don't want to go into everything here, but I have always felt it was me. I was the problem. I was on the adoption register (Birth Mother's choice) before birth and two previous full siblings were kept. I am trying to learn through therapy this isn't the case, but it still continues to be a struggle to change that thought. My parents were young and had little money.

I am lucky enough to know my birth dad, one half-sibling on his side, and two full siblings plus having met my neice and nephew. The stories behind my birth and adoption are complicated, however, and I am currently trying to get hold of my file - as you probably know it takes months even with lots of info from you as the child - to see if it can clear anything up (for me, I do not want any family to feel uncomfortable over this).

My adopted sister, though, is from a different birth family. She has was adopted at about 6 months and struggled from the word go with close relationships. Once she could form them, she never displayed full emotion to those outside of these bonds. She now seems to have strong and hysterical emotion for boyfriends which - despite calming since hitting 19 - can still reach hysterical stages. She also tends to block out our family in order to continue our relationships. She barely spoke a word for 5 years in the home, though unlike selective mutism, was not mute at school. She shut herself away and [may be triggering] displayed self-harm, both shallow and deeper (but no stitches to my knowledge) cuts across her arms and legs, making herself mute and restricting her food openly.

She kept a picture of her birth mother under her pillow throughout her teenage years, I don't know if she still does.

As soon as I was old enough to have a 'chosen name' offered to me, I switched to my birth name. I used it on Facebook and it was actually at 17, a few months previous to my 18th birthday that I found my birth family. My sister has rejected all previous names and goes by a nickname I gave her as a baby with a new spelling (no surname when possible) since she got the option.

I also had secretive self-harm issues (sometimes cuts requiring medical intervention which were then noticed), Anorexia Nervosa with secretive behaviours) and have heard voices from a young age while also experiencing mood difficulties (also remained secret until much later). I suffered and do suffer with separation anxiety while my sister cannot or possibly does not form the relationships to allow this anxiety to occur. I am diagnosed as Schizo-affective Disorder (Bipolar Type) and, after multiple misdiagnosis find this fits well, am definitely not the BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder) that doctors currently seem to automatically associate with adopted children - the only symptom, that is not fully interchangeable with other illnesses, that I fit is fear of loss and it does not cause me to act irrationally. I know many people who are however, and would almost guarantee my sister's problems lie within this.

We both showed exhibition of abnormal behaviours within what is supposed to fit an adopted child, the same problems on either end of the scale (some I have not gone into) including self-harm and eating issues which involve inability to express emotion on a 'normal' scale (or feeling an emotion which cannot be expressed 'normally') and control. Yet we were adopted before the age in which our parents were told we would be affected by our adoption. Developmentally, my sister showed and continued to develop amazing expression through physical (fine) art and I developed and progressed in language (and social understandings) very early, being able to hold appropriate sentence conversations at two and having memories around this age that are very strong.

Genetic factors do of course come into it, especially with my diagnosis, but with my behaviour and her's I feel a lot of it is classic to an adopted child and the emotional problems they may face. Are there any studies that show this? Has anyone found their child or a child they know has displayed these emotional problems after adoption at such an early age. Do babies adopted continue to have problems into later life? Do they develop different thought processes?

Thank you if you have reached this far. It's a long winded explanation for a shorter question, but I'm really asking for your help in understanding here.

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FeelingIrie · 06/07/2014 07:47

Hello Smoke

I work in adoption support and would say that IME emotional difficulties for people adopted in circumstances such as yours are common. It doesn't matter that you were placed young and quickly, you were seperated from your birth mother and this is traumatic for any baby. Of course some people cope with this better/differently than others but issues with self esteem and difficulties in forming relationships are a recurring theme.

A book that seems to help adult adoptees make sense of things is The Primal Wound by Nancy Newton Verrier. She is a psychotherapist and adoptive mother which examines the life long effects adoption has on adoptees, it may help you make sense of things.

Hopefully others with personal experiences of adoption will be along to help you soon but in the meantime I really hope this helps a little.

Take care x

Italiangreyhound · 06/07/2014 11:14

Hi Smoke I am afraid I have no wisdom to share but did not want to read and run. I think you have done a lot of thinking and are exploring all these issues, which must be very tough. This shows me that you are a very resourceful and intelligent young woman and that you have a lot of willingness to enagage with all your difficult past and seek out answers.

If I may make a few observations which are just based on my own thoughts and you are very free to totally ignore if you wish to?

  1. Your birth parents chose to put you up for adoption before you were born and this was totally based on their situation, their thoughts, either their lack of money or their lack of ability to cope or their perceived lack of ability to cope (maybe they thought they would not be able to and maybe they felt you would have a better life with another family)

  2. This decision was their decision and could not be based on any thing to do with you, you were not even born at that stage.

  3. I have a friend who suffers from Anorexia Nervousa and self harms and she has been able to access lots of help for this, she has gone on to live a reasonably normal life with a hubby and kids, although it is not easy there is support out there.

  4. Whatever the reasons behind your mental health issues remember mental health issues are very common, and many, many people have them. Slowly the stigma is being lifted and support is available.

  5. You are obviously a determined person, you can IMHO rise above the issues that are so sad and distressing from your past. I am not making light of them, I am saying I think with help you can find progress. And there may well be medical treatment, tablets etc that can help you. Because some mental health issues are caused by an imbalance in hormones and can be treated with drugs, just like high blood pressure or thyroid problems. So please do get all the medical help you can.

I hope someone else will be along with specific help for you and please do ignore any comments of mine which are unhelpful.

smokeandglitter · 06/07/2014 12:54

Thanks feelingirie, will definitely have a look at that book and it's almost reassuring (maybe strange choice of word) to know that it is common in your experience.

Thanks for your post, italiangreyhound. There is a huge possibility that my mental health problems are genetic mainly, and biologically based. I am under Cmht and treated relatively successfully with lots of meds. Though it's complicated as my dh and I are ttc so I can't go on the really strong medication during this time. I think ttc is what has made me realise I need to work through more things myself as therapy on the nhs is so short term (have had some) and currently can't afford private. I actually own a blog to reduce the stigma and raise awareness for mental illness which is growing all the time. Smile thank you for your belief that I can work through everything.

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Italiangreyhound · 06/07/2014 13:14

Good luck with trying to conceive and working through your history.

Finding out that things are more common, experienced by others etc can be a huge help.

I really do think with help people can overcome their pasts. I know that I have not had your experiences so maybe it is unfair for me to say that, and no one would blame you for not overcoming things! But with support of your husband and the future to look forward to, I really hope you will get there. Good luck with it all.

FeelingIrie · 06/07/2014 13:37

It's certainly not just you OP. Your sister has also had huge difficulties by the sound of things. I don't think any baby can be 'too young' when adopted to suffer the consequences of adoption sadly. However it should be acknowledged that contemporary adoptions where children suffer abuse/neglect with birth family and then spend time in what is often a pretty flawed care system leave these children very vulnerable to a multitude of extra difficulties too.

That aside though, there are many prevailing issues facing adopted people no matter what the circumstances of their early life and the stage at which they are placed with adopters. Feelings of abandonment and rejection, issues with identity, trust and control... All very commonplace and often manifest themselves in MH disorders/emotional difficulties. You are by no means alone.

Accessing your birth records is a good idea. It can be difficult but will give you facts. You should also be able to access some sessions with an adoption support worker as part of this. As an adopted adult, the LA to whom you pay council tax or receive council tax benefit for are obliged to offer you some level of service, although it varies. Meeting with a professional experienced in adoption would be a good opportunity for you to talk through some of the issues you feel may be related to your adoption and some areas offer support groups for adopted adults which can help.

TTC can be an emotionally tough time so look after yourself. I'm not surprised it's raked up more feelings for you. Often people come to us to access support and info when they become parents themselves.

I didn't have time to write much earlier but second what Italian said. You sound like an intelligent, considered woman and I hope that these and your doubtless many other strengths have/ will provide you with some resilience throughout your life, and that these things become easier to deal with.

Try not to feel guilty about pursuing these issues, accessing your records etc - adoption is hugely complex and you didn't ask for any of this. Good luck x

Maryz · 06/07/2014 19:43

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Orangeanddemons · 06/07/2014 19:47

I'm adopted. Do all adopted children have issues? I don't think I had any

Maryz · 06/07/2014 19:53

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YouAreMyRain · 06/07/2014 20:05

Orangesandlemons - I think a lot of the issues faced by adopted people are caused by a mixture of genetics, pre and post birth experiences and their character ie "emotional resilience" I have two adopted DDs, the one that has huge problems and serious MH issues had an easier start in life (on paper) than my other DD who experienced more trauma but seems more emotionally resilient.

Not all adopted people will have issues but lots will.

Many birth families are thought to have conditions with genetic factors (ASD etc) that are masked by their lifestyle/substance use etc.

smokeandglitter · 09/07/2014 16:52

Thanks so much for all your support and information that's really helpful and such a lovely supportive message.

Orangesandlemons, I know twins who were adopted from Romania, one struggled a little but neither had big problems, they are both very happy (not to say I don't have a lot of happiness in my life). So, I don't think all adopted children do, just some with the influences other mumsnetters have mentioned. Smile

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