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BrightSunshineyDay · 08/06/2014 06:22

I gave birth yesterday and immediately relinquished responsibility. I have so much going round in my head right now that I hope no-one minds if I blurt it out here.
I will be speaking with social workers tomorrow so I want to think of as many questions as possible. I know without a doubt I am doing the right thing. He will go to a foster family for a few weeks until new parents are found (I was in denial about the pregnancy until only a couple ofdays ago)
How quickly will he be found a new family? Will the new family be in my local area? Should I write him a letter explaining my life circumstances and his birth story? Should I get him a keepsake? Is letterbox contact the best thing for him and his new family? Thats all I want. What is best for him. I want to do whatever is best so he can grow up not feeling abandoned or deserted. I want him to know I love him but I want him to have the best life possible.
Please tell me there are parents/a parent out there who are just about to receive into their life the most perfect beautiful boy, and they will be kind and loving and settled.
Sorry for the brain dump - I've been awake for hours and this is all going round in my head.

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Rachie1986 · 16/06/2014 06:29

Hope you get to see baby today xx

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DalmationStripe · 16/06/2014 09:02

100% yes to expressing! I really hope you get to see your DS today. Have you given him a name? I've been thinking about you op. I hope you are okay. Xxx

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BrightSunshineyDay · 16/06/2014 09:47

Thankyou so much for your messages.
I am excited and petrified this morning. Scared they will say no, scared they will say yes and then I'll have to saygoodbye to him again. EExcited that today he could be in my arms again. Stupid as it sounds my arms feel redundant right now.
The manager said to give her some time this morning and she would call me. Thinking i will leave it till 10ish then phone - is that too early or not soon enough? Plus I have my 4yr old all day today - not sure how I'll work round that.
My boobs have gone down a lot tge last 24hours but still confident I could stimulate them back into action.
I know I need to tell my dad but I'm dreading his reaction. Sad In his head it will be a third "misfit" (his words) that I've had a baby with. I've been a disappointment to him since a child and even more so since mum died. He says I remind him of her - and he doesn't mean it as a compliment.
Sorry for rambling, trying to keep myself busy till I hear from the manager.

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MerryInthechelseahotel · 16/06/2014 10:41

bright don't listen to your dad. I hope it all works out for you in the way you want x

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fasparent · 16/06/2014 11:11

Don't forget too ask for red book and hospital documents so you can register baby's birth YOUR RIGHT. Take a pencil and pad write everything down as they will.
Good luck thinking of you.

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SearchingforSleep · 16/06/2014 12:08

My heart goes out to you - you sound like such a lovely mum. I so hope you have been able to see your son this morning. Thinking of you... Thanks

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Catticals · 16/06/2014 12:18

Bright good luck with today.

Your dad sounds awful, I think critical father's cast long shadows but actually his poor patenting and inability to express unconditional love for you is his failing. You only need a strategy that works for you, you can choose to not let him hurt you.

Take care

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jellyandsoup · 16/06/2014 12:36

Just read through this I hope you have your hoy in tour arms. I have no experience to share but you sound like one if the strongest mothers on here! Your dc (all of them) are lucky to have you

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jkhj · 16/06/2014 12:46

Bright, I too am excited for you and hoping you are soon holding/feeding him in your arms. You sound like a very strong person who has seen lots of lives criseses, more so you sound like a wonderful mum!

I hope things work out how you want them. Just remember babies have a wonderful way of bringing happiness to all and that your childrens lives with light up with him in their lives too.

All he needs is you

Love and hugs to you x

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MonserratCaballe · 16/06/2014 12:56

Legally, Bright, only you have PR for him at the moment - you let SS look after him whilst you were getting your head sorted and now you feel in a better place, you are entitled to have him returned to you (assuming that's what you want, which it sounds as though you do.) There shouldn't be a question of SS allowing you to have DS back. You contact them and they should make arrangements for his return.

I am sorry things are difficult with your dad. We all make choices / decisions / even mistakes which our parents find hard to deal with, but ultimately it's your life and you have to do what's best for you and your children Smile.

Thinking of you today.

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GothMummy · 16/06/2014 13:12

My thoughts and prayers are with you today.

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BrightSunshineyDay · 16/06/2014 13:27

Thankyou all so much. I'm not seeing him today Sad they are tryinh to find a venue and waiting for him tonhave a sw assigned. The sw I spoke to said they aretrying for me to see him mon/weds/fri 11-1230 whilst they assess me with a view to getting him back.
I told my sister today (she lives in australia) she was so kind and forgiving. She thinks I can do this too. I just need to see him. I need to hold him and love him.

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Catticals · 16/06/2014 13:50

Hey bright:(

Have you called for legal support as mentioned above?

Your problem may well be that the sw may well have literally no experience of voluntary relinquishment. They may well not understand your rights. Call, get legal advice and call managers and press hard. There is not the same need to limit contact.

Pump if you want To bf, demand time to reinitiate and sustain bf, this is I your baby's best interest.

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MonserratCaballe · 16/06/2014 14:12

Bright, that doesn't sound like a lot of contact for you as his mum. Contact is always important, especially so when you have to sort the breastfeeding. You have done nothing to suggest contact would be a problem.

Why can you not see him tomorrow? I would be inclined to push for more, or get legal advice if you are not up to an argument yourself. I am assuming that, as he was taken voluntarily, there is no sort of emergency order in place. This means that you alone have PR and the local authority does not. They cannot legally keep him and decide if you can have him back without some sort of court order, which I am assuming they haven't got.

All this is only true if you are in England or Wales. I don't know the position in Scotland / N ireland or elsewhere.

Sorry to put my lawyer's hat on but I don't think you are being treated fairly.

Have you sorted a breast pump? Your community MW might be able to help.

Thinking of you Flowers

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BrightSunshineyDay · 16/06/2014 14:15

I'm in England. I'm scared of pissing them off and them thinking I shouldn't have him back.

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BrightSunshineyDay · 16/06/2014 14:17

Sorry, no there is no emergency order in place. I signed a section 20?

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marne2 · 16/06/2014 14:22

Just read the whole thread, just wanted to say 'what a strong woman you are', sounds like you have been through hell over the past few years and I can see why you may have thought it was for the best. Please don't think life will always be this tough for you and your children, things can get better, you have reached rock bottom ( being homeless ) and now the only way is up, things will get better and you will support all of your children. Stay strong xxxx

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Italiangreyhound · 16/06/2014 14:22

No words of wisdom but just hand holding.

Your sister is totally right to forgive you. I am not sure why you needed to be forgiven though. You are the injured party in so much, no wonder you felt you could not cope. Do you now feel you can? Have you told social workers. Sorry if I have missed something, so much to read!

I am so sad to hear what your dad said. My friend lost her mum before high school and went totally off the rails. Engagement to unsuitable man, lots of relationships with unsuitable older men, drugs, all kinds of stuff it is not my place to post here. It is very normal when you suffer a major bereavement. You need support and not judgement. I am so sorry for you. Thinking of you. YOU ARE A GREAT PERSON, you need to believe in your abilities but you also need support.

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Catticals · 16/06/2014 15:49

Bright that won't happen. In fact if you are seen to be addressing this with attention to detail, focus and consistency then it may indeed help you. Children are not taken into care because their parents upset individual social workers. The team won't know what to do with you necessarily as this scenario is now vanishingly rare and often only found when previous babies have been taken into care etc .

I would get legal advice, see your gp about counselling, start lactation support if that suits you, make your situation known to people who could support you and do everything possible to show you understand sw concerns but that your antenatal depression has lifetn, you no longer are in denial and are being proactive and cooperative whilst planning your babiy's return.

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Lilka · 16/06/2014 16:53

You need to get legal advice, don't try and do this on your own. And get it ASAP, don't wait. Also I think going to see your GP for counselling is important. You're going through so much, and no matter what you think, it's not your fault. You deserve support x

They may not have encountered your situation before, but if a mother changes her mind in the first 6 weeks she should have the baby returned to her care. If they don't agree with returning baby, they'll have to apply to the court and get the legal orders that will enable them to keep the baby in care without parental consent. You do have rights. And really, you need some legal help.

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MonserratCaballe · 16/06/2014 17:43

If you have signed a s20 then SS do not have parental responsibility for your son. They therefore cannot hang onto him unless they get an EPO or a care order. I would strongly suggest legal advice unless you get definite word tomorrow as to when he will be returned to you. They should also be allowing you plenty of contact.

The point of public law is to help children be brought up within the family where possible. The Ss are obliged to explore the provision of services and accomm at first. Only if these fail can they apply for a Care order. You should therefore feel confident that your DS will be returned to you very shortly.

Stay strong. You are doing so well Flowers

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BrightSunshineyDay · 16/06/2014 18:18

Oh god. Thankyou for your posts. Please tell me in simplest terms what/who I should do tomorrow. I still don't know when I'm going to see ds - sw said they were aiming for mon/weds/fri - does that mean it couldbe possibly be Friday when I next see him? I feel out of my depth here. I thought ss would be more helpfu I can't believe I've been so stupid. Ds still only has an initial assessment sw, they keep saying his case will be handed over to a longer term sw who I am supposed to be able to build up a relationship with, and get support and help from.
I'm panicking now that I won't get him back or , at the other end, I'll get him back but with no support.
Right now I just want to see him Sad I need to find the fire in my belly I think.

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BrightSunshineyDay · 16/06/2014 18:26

Sorry I mean mon wedd fri for visits. Think I said that earlier tho - apologies - brain is in meltdown!

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foolishpeach · 16/06/2014 18:38

Just seen this thread in active so keeping it bumped for you OP.

I'm not an expert, but perhaps getting in touch with a solicitor who deals with family law, particularly ss/adoption would be a good step tomorrow? I think some solicitors even do a free 30 minute initial consultation.

I really hope this all works out well for you. Flowers

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BrightSunshineyDay · 16/06/2014 18:43

I want to be sat on my sofa in my lounge telling my teenager off for grunting at me, my dd practising her gymnastics and ds2 insisting he is the fat controller whilst I try to settle dc4. I want to go to bed knackered knowing that the next day might be one of those rare days where it is all nice and harmonious but in all probability will be another hard slog.
I want to moan pn here that ds isn't sleeping or that the washing with 4dc is getting me down and be told its ok. I want to be told i finally have a reason for a dishwasher i want to dream of peace and quiet. I want my dc all together. I want to smile with no hidden hurt.
I know I can get through the relentless early years - I did with ds1 (he is now starting his gcses and I was on my own with him from 3 months pregnant till he was 3yrs old) but I struggle with the toddler stage.
Most of all I want all 4 dc with me knowing I love them
and I'm there for them. That sounds cheesy and wanky I know, but thats what i want.

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