How many taught hours per module for students?

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So for example for a 30 credit module does your institution have a prescribed number of hours per module? We’ve been told to reduce all our hours to 52 per 30 credit module.

Which means students will get 208 hours of face to face teaching per academic year.

No matter what the course. So a medical degree will get the same as illustration. 🤷‍♀️ Anything you thing the student needs to know which can’t be covered is to be set as directed or self directed study.

We do an average of 10 per week for the whole degree - so 220 hours of teaching time for 120 credits. (Humanities)

40 hours contact for 30 credits

Do your medical degree modules have credit values - i thought most didn't?

It's doesn't seem ridiculously low though. In fact quite high for Humanities or Social Science....

Costs need to be cut though - ain't no extra money coming in 🤷‍♀️

I’m not actually sure about the medical degrees and credits, was just told it was all courses. I teach an allied health professional program and it’s going to be tricky to cut it.

but yes needs must and it’s very true that the funding isn’t coming in. Sadly tuition fees really do need to be raised.

Professional course
48 hours for 20 credit academic module. Possibly reducing to 36 next year
100 day placement = 60 credits
70 day placement = 40 credits
7 hour skills day x 30 across the degree. Mandatory, No credits.

Just checked my module guide and for 20 credits we have 150 hours divided 45 hours lectures 45 hours seminar/tutorials and 60 hours student study. Professional/regulated UG programme

Nothing coming from up above about reducing contact time at the moment.

We have 30 hours per 20-credit module at pre-Honours and 20 hours per 20-credit module at Honours and Masters. This for Arts and Humanities across the board but I think STEM have more hours. Pans out as 9 hours contact time per week at pre-Honours and 6 for Honours and Masters. A Masters programme in my department (in which i don't teach) was allowed to get through with half the contact hours as every other programme for some reason, so students get the grand total of 3 hours per week (without extra asynchronous or other teaching).

No set hours for contact time. It varies depending on what is appropriate for the module.

We have 60 hours of direct taught lecture and seminar content for each of our 20 credit modules. It's a professional programme. Students get a very varied experience don't they?

It does seem bonkers for a university to say same amount of time doing humanities and STEM. I did a humanities degree decades ago and we had 8 hours a week, the STEM students were doing 30 plus. To tell all degrees you’re doing the same just seems odd.

But guess the students are paying the same…..even if everyone has known for years (so I was told anyway) that humanities students are effectively subsidising the STEM students.

But guess the students are paying the same…..even if everyone has known for years (so I was told anyway) that humanities students are effectively subsidising the STEM students.

Students aren’t all paying the same. Some pay considerably less if their loans are written off. Engineering students as a group are less likely to have their loans written off than creative arts students, for example.

We do 45 hours for 15 credits

Ok, but they’re being charged the same -£9250 a year.

The fees charged, and therefore the fee received by the uni, is the same. Given we don't have fees paid to unis linked to how much previous grads repaid, whether or not they pay nothing, part or all is irrelevant.

Of course it is relevant. The students all pay the same to the university but, for the vast majority, the funds they use to pay their fees come directly from the government in the form of a loan. If they don’t repay any or part of that loan then the defaulted amount comes from government funds. In effect, it is a government subsidy.

If you want to identify which disciplines are really subsidising others you need to look at the bigger picture, not just a comparison of which courses cost more or less to run than the flat £9250 fee.

It's not relevant. If you sell cars you care about how much you sell them for. You don't care how many people took out loans or used their savings or had a lottery win. It makes no difference to your income how the customer finances their purchase.

And the cost of a degree is fixed - at the rate it costs to deliver a low contact hour classroom based course - 8 years ago. £9k for a STEM degree is an absolute bargain.

And the cost of a degree is fixed - at the rate it costs to deliver a low contact hour classroom based course - 8 years ago. £9k for a STEM degree is an absolute bargain.

So is a £9k creative arts degree if the tab is picked up by higher earning STEM graduates.

I agree £9k for creative arts is also a bargain. But the tab isn't being picked up by highly paid STEM grads - unis don't see any grads' money. International students are the ones picking up the tab.

You are talking about how much money a university receives in tuition fees. I am talking about how much students pay for their degrees.

They are two different things.

You are talking about how much money a university receives in tuition fees. I am talking about how much students pay for their degrees.

But the thread is about contact hours and fees paid - ie from the uni position, not the student position

We are currently meant to have 48 hours delivery for 20 credits. Most modules don't have that any more. The students used to have 12 hours of face to face teaching a week, on the Masters they now have 6 and undergrad 6-9

The thread is about taught hours per module for students.

Fees paid/received and from whose perspective are tangents.

Ours are:

Year 1, 48 hours f2f in class out of 200 hours total module time (the rest is independent study etc)
Year 2, 36 hours/ 200
Year 3, 24 hours / 200

12 week semester basis. 20 credit modules.