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Anyone else not striking?

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goingpearshaped · 11/02/2022 22:17

I am not in UCU so not striking. Anyone else? I can sense the divide already between those striking and those not in our dept, I really hate this. Agh, what a mess all round.

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ghislaine · 31/03/2022 11:34

I wonder how much of that was due to having PhD students in the membership? I could be very wrong though, given the actions of some Sussex staff.

GCAndProud · 01/04/2022 14:30

I’m glad people are criticising it. It all makes me feel like I’m going insane most of the time. I still can’t get over a union praising strike-breakers and applauding workplace bullying though.
I think the number of phd members probably contributes to all the nonsense but a lot of the culprits are in their 30s and 40s or even older. It’s embarrassing.

damekindness · 01/04/2022 15:32

In the last week I've had 5 texts, 2 phone calls from my branch and the usual daily central UCU emails checking Id received the ballot papers and exhorting me to vote (I will abstain)

Assuming there's a lot of anxiety that the threshold won't be reached again

ghislaine · 01/04/2022 16:34

Is it an aggregated or disaggregated ballot this time? What are the actions that are being voted on? [nosey]

ExUCU · 01/04/2022 21:12

It should be possible to tell your branch not to call you and/or remove your phone number from your membership record.

Of course they are anxious. This strike has been a total failure. Wages lost for nothing. The most unpleasant people involved in UCU do seem to be on the cusp of middle age (35-45), the PhD students seem more like useful cannon fodder to me.

Any idea on who thought it would be a good idea to bring up Kathleen Stock again? Because this is not the story that UCU should want in the news right now. Thinking back to that shameful episode makes me quite sad and angry.

aridapricot · 02/04/2022 11:44

Wow, phone calls sound a bit desperate. And the whole Sussex thing just sounds... inappropriate. Part of me thinks professional memberships and unions should stick strictly to matters concerning their members, and not get involved in wider issues of politics. I can understand, though, a union or society, say, condemning the Ukrainian invasion. Not every little petty bad thing that has ever happened in every campus. Oh wait but I suppose Stock is literally as evil as Putin or something.

aridapricot · 02/04/2022 11:46

The most unpleasant people involved in UCU do seem to be on the cusp of middle age (35-45), the PhD students seem more like useful cannon fodder to me.
I have noticed this kind of dynamic too. As someone in the older age group, I am embarrassed for the behaviour of my contemporaries and particularly their instrumentalizing of PhD students (who on the other hand sometimes seem only to happy to be instrumentalized).

GCAndProud · 02/04/2022 12:06

Agree that the ones driving it are older (but somehow still seem to think they represent the ‘youth’ of academia, which points to a certain level of delusion). Phd students are indeed canon fodder because the majority of them don’t even earn enough to get a pension and nor will they obtain a permanent job. They are just pawns that allow more senior staff to get promoted and get their funding. The older ones should know better. I think a lot of it is motivated by jealousy. Several of them are 7+ years post-PhD and still to secure a permanent post (or even a temporary one in some cases) and it probably does sting to see someone who had tangible success in their career, which might explain the extreme level of vitriol.

I believe that the vote is on the same issues as before - USS and four fights. It’s being called to extend the current mandate which expires in early May. I think they are shitting themselves that more branches won’t hit the threshold because that will be a major humiliation for UCU. I believe this ballot is disaggregated, as was the last one. It’s too much of a risk to aggregate it, as past experience has shown.

ExUCU · 02/04/2022 12:50

Yes, disaggregating pensions from four fights makes sense. I’m looking forward to the publication of ballot results, as a comparison with the last result will make it possible to determine whether membership numbers have gone down in individual branches.

GCAndProud · 02/04/2022 14:12

Oh sorry, I meant disaggregated in the sense that every branch that strikes has to hit the threshold rather than all branches being able to take action. I believe that USS and 4 fights are actually aggregated at the moment but there is a distinct lack of clarity on this - some of the dates were separate but then at the end, they seemed to roll it all together. Who on Earth knows.

I am also interested in the results to see if membership has gone down and crucially if number of votes has gone down because not voting is often not apathy but a tactical decision to avoid getting over the threshold.

ExMachinaDeus · 03/04/2022 16:27

I have decided to abstain - thanks to the discussion about that in this thread. Wondering about resigning from the union ...

damekindness · 03/04/2022 16:55

I'm prevaricating about resigning but don't want to lose the (probably limited) protection I might have from any local managerial shenanigans. Feels a bit like an insurance policy I'm almost sure won't pay out if I claimed

ghislaine · 03/04/2022 17:26

I’m annoyed with UCU today because it continues to present sessional staff as “lecturers” to the outside world. Today’s example is a person with no more than a 2:1 UG degree obtained nearly ten years ago! Zero hours contracts are reprehensible (although I do struggle to see how these are logistically possible with TAs) but this person is not a “lecturer” and the chances of her becoming one are slim to zero in today’s competitive climate. Recent applicants for a lectureship in my department all had a PhD and a number of publications. Sadly, that is the benchmark these days.

ExUCU · 03/04/2022 20:40

There are other unions you can join (GMB, Affinity ...) but only UCU is recognised by universities as representing academics, AFAIK. But if your main concern is legal advice and support, there are other options. If you are a gender-critical woman, then UCU is actively undermining your interests and you are paying them for it. (Others may disagree but I think the evidence is compelling.)

I did look up whether it’s true that PhD students can join UCU for free if they do some hourly teaching, and yes, indeed, that’s the case. What gets me is that we can only defend our fairly privileged position in society (relatively high pay, respect - sort of, good pension, freedom to pursue our research interests) if we can make a convincing case that academics are highly qualified professionals, and an elite of sorts. There are many brilliant PhD students (and many so-so ones) but most will not beat the competition and get a lectureship.

Chemenger · 04/04/2022 10:38

Most of the committee in my (ex) branch of UCU is PhD students, which means there is inevitably a lack of continuity and experience of the issues affecting full time permanent staff is minimal.

aridapricot · 04/04/2022 11:43

I feel really ambivalent about how PhD students (and sometimes UCU on their behalf) have voiced their grievances in this dispute.
There are things such as: make sure that preparation time is paid (or at least built in the hourly rate); make sure that no one steps into a classroom without having signed a contract; make sure that the rates of pay are similar across similar departments; hire PhD students directly and not through a temporary agency such as Adecco. I think we can all agree these are all just things, and it is a disgrace some universities do not have them sorted out. Looking at UCU's official list of demands on the precarity front, they are indeed along these lines - i.e. tangible things that a university Human Resources department can actually achieve if they want to.
But many PhD students seem to be under the impression that a successful strike will bring in a radical re-hashing of HE at PhD and ECR level - which I am not sure is entirely within the reach of universities. I've also seen grievances, in my department and elsewhere, that to be frank I find a bit puzzling, and that to me speak of poor time management skills or a misunderstanding of what the GTA entails rather than of intrinsic exploitation. Someone in my university was asking why should she, as a GTA, be paid half of what the course convenor earns, because "equal pay for equal labour": I bet she doesn't get to put the outline of the course together, or to deal with numerous extension requests, complaints and other communications from students. Also, if a GTA should get the same salary as a SL, then it means that once the GTA obtains an academic post then she should get the same salary from day 1 to the day of her retirement.

ExUCU · 04/04/2022 15:26

I think you are being very charitable, @aridapricot. In most other lines of work, a trainee who made such demands would be laughed at. Having been through the pipeline myself, though, I understand that PhD students don’t always appreciate how hard it is to be an academic and that years of experience and deep knowledge of a field really count for something. I wonder if it’s because we often do so much to build up graduate students’ self-esteem and big them up? Or because so many academics want to be ‘down with the kids’? I really don’t know ...

KStockHERO · 05/04/2022 09:56

@aridapricot

The most unpleasant people involved in UCU do seem to be on the cusp of middle age (35-45), the PhD students seem more like useful cannon fodder to me. I have noticed this kind of dynamic too. As someone in the older age group, I am embarrassed for the behaviour of my contemporaries and particularly their instrumentalizing of PhD students (who on the other hand sometimes seem only to happy to be instrumentalized).
This is such an interesting observation and absolutely on the money. You've really made me think about my own ambivalence about academic in a different way with this comment.

I'm very firmly in this age bracket. Many, many of my contemporaries - those people who did their PhDs at the same or a few years before/after me - are the nastiest, most vitriolic people in my field. All of them are very heavily involved in UCU and spout the "be kind" ideology.

For me, its these people who're making academia a toxic environment to work in. Yes, management can be completely incompetent; yes, students are getting more and more demanding; yes, workloads are unfair and can get out of control at times; yes, promotion benchmarks are getting unrealistic. But the day-to-day experience of academia - being at work, being with colleagues, being in meetings, feeling welcome, feeling valued, being able to have discussions, being able to develop new collaborations - is increasingly negative because of these types of people.

ExUCU · 05/04/2022 19:03

Why this age group? Could be life-cycle related or career stage related (no longer the bright young thing, getting bogged down mid-career), or it could be the impact of the ‘great awokening’ from ca. 2014 onwards?

ghislaine · 05/04/2022 20:11

Personally I would suspect a need to feel relevant and I think the union probably provides a sense of purpose and a site for collective engagement. Also the opportunity to be looked up to by PhD students if peer esteem is lacking or insufficient. Then there are people who just enjoy conflict as a modus vivandi.

aridapricot · 05/04/2022 21:12

The timing of this conversation is quite interesting, as Kathleen Stock published a blog yesterday which engages with some of these questions. Nominally about Philosophy but I think applies more broadly to Humanities and some SocSci: kathleenstock.substack.com/p/cocooning-philosophy?r=7vxvx&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Some interesting bits:
"Though this is fairly subjective, based on my own experience of both giving and attending talks around the country I too can attest to a change in social norms in the philosophy seminar room during this period [the 2010s] - fuelled partly by the influence of the report but also by the increasing numbers of North Americans getting jobs in UK Universities back then, and so bringing cultural norms of US academia with them. "

"It also became much more common for audience members to start by thanking speakers fulsomely for their talk, then offer banal and unfocused lines of questioning such as: “I was really interested to hear you say X in your talk. Could you say a little more about that?” (Other audience members, inwardly: please God no!). Instead of trying to eviscerate the speaker with a devastating question, the new tendency was to try to be constructive and collaborative in one’s approach, identifying not what was wrong with the speaker’s argument, but what was right about it - a bit like the “Two stars and a wish” approach of the primary school teacher, and with about the same level of satisfying adult engagement."

"But whatever the truth about its origins, the demise of the old approach meant that aggression was still knocking around - of course it was - but now it had to go somewhere else. As the numbers of Phds being disgorged into the philosophy job market every year increased, and the number of jobs available decreased, competition amongst philosophers, always high anyway, became even more intense than usual. Where that aggression had formerly been expressed and so somewhat contained within the combative rituals of the seminar room, it now sought new outlets. And what it found was the internet."

"As these figures virtue-signalled, gate-kept, and generally queen-beed around in virtual spaces, they consolidated their own power. An example was being set for younger onlookers, desperately hungry to get into the profession permanently, and standing relatively little chance given the paucity of jobs and the high number of competitors. It told them that self-aggrandising and bullying others was acceptable in the philosophy profession as long as it was in the name of social justice. And it told them that drawing attention to their own presumed victimhood was good for their careers, since it was likely to draw the approval of more powerful others."

"By now I’m a veteran of denunciations, character-assassinating blogposts, open letters, petitions, protests, deplatformings, objections to “non-consensual co-platforming”, and general pleas to the profession to Just Get Rid of Her Already, and I can honestly say that after a while you realise - somewhat deflatingly, even - that it was never really about you at all. For women in particular, but also for less powerful others generally, the internet functions to provide a “safe” outlet for their aggression and competitive urges (safe for them, I mean, though not particularly safe for you), because these can be presented under cover of some more socially acceptable behaviour: being kind, good, standing up for vulnerable others, and so on.

Eventually you realise that you’re a mere means to others’ relatively impersonal ends: a useful peg on which to hang their febrile projections, or a conveniently-shaped vehicle with which to establish their place in a hierarchy. As long as their envy, anxiety, or desire for the approval of Mummy and Daddy figures can be shoehorned into a vaguely credible story about your moral corruption - and as long as they don’t risk much professionally by attacking you - it’s game on."

Marasme · 06/04/2022 23:41

this is so true

It also became much more common for audience members to start by thanking speakers fulsomely for their talk, then offer banal and unfocused lines of questioning such as: “I was really interested to hear you say X in your talk. Could you say a little more about that?

My students do the weird praise dance even after the most dreadful presentation at group meeting. The thanking, the praising and the total avoidance of pointed, specific critique.

drives me insane

GCAndProud · 07/04/2022 07:27

I agree so much with the comments above, especially the conferences comments bit! You’re evil if you dare criticise and people post comments from peer reviewers online that have left them feeling ‘destroyed’ and some of them are quite mild/fair enough tbh! I remember one person posting a desk-reject from the editor which said that her bibliography full of stuff she hadn’t actually cited in the text and that therefore he wasn’t going to publish it. Lots of academics piled in saying that it was so rude/unprofessional and how dare the editor do this, when surely the editor was in the right? Who puts uncited stuff in their bibliography?

At the same time, these same people are happy to destroy the work/careers of those who they feel say the ‘wrong thing’. Lots of ‘if a 1st year undergraduate wrote what Kathleen Stock wrote in an essay, I’d fail it’. Often coming from people with virtually no publication record of their own. I just think it’s funny how the ‘be kind’ culture (or ‘radical kindness’ 🤢) only applies to people you agree with or are ‘one of you’.

I am also in the age range identified and I do think it’s perhaps a midlife crisis aspect to it. Many of these people do still think of themselves as the youth of academia when they really aren’t. It’s very evident for instance in the UCU’s cosying up to the NUS. I can’t remember Sally Hunt posing for endless selfies with 22-year olds. Maybe it’s the fact that many phd grads are left in limbo for years and often don’t start a permanent position until their 30s. Maybe they still feel like they are just starting out rather than heading for mid-career. I think a lot of it is also wanting to appear down with the kids. A colleague of mine who is late 30s begins his module with pronoun introductions and trigger warnings. He genuinely thinks his finger is on the pulse but I’ve heard the students take the piss out of him. When I was 19, people in their 30s and 40s were ancient to me, even if they wore cool trainers. I don’t think anything has changed in that respect.

I think the ballot closes tomorrow so it will be very interesting to see the results. Maybe if UCU had skipped all the salary-destroying strikes and done a marking boycott as the first action, there would be some success… Losing money over the past few months will have turned many off the strike.

aridapricot · 07/04/2022 08:17

I agree with the last two comments, and it makes me think - there is so much hypocrisy around, which is perhaps what is making me more and more disillusioned with academia these days. Of course, academia isn't the only place where hypocrisy exists, but the particular brand here just seems so damaging (or perhaps it is because it is so close!). There is a sense, as @Marasme says, that everything deserves a praise dance - but still people are very aware that not scholarship (or teaching for that matter) is created equal. I have heard colleagues discussing PhD students behind their back - saying that with luck and a lot of work maybe they'll manage one article out of their PhD thesis; that they are simply not cut out for the big research fellowships - while others are. Yet these assessments are not passed on to the PhD students themselves - everyone is treated as if they have a brilliant academic career in front of them and the only reason why this doesn't materialize is the crowdedness of the market. And same for the whole kindness discourse as @GCAndProud says.

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