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Plagiarism

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labellesusage · 31/08/2020 10:47

Asking for a friend. We met up on Thursday to work together on our assignments. We had just had results from last assignment.
She is still waiting for a mark as she's apparently plagiarised. Herself.
She used something from a different assignment but didn't cite it etc.
The uni pulled her in , she took a copy of the assignment she had used but their saying it's from a different country.
We are 1 assignment away from finishing the course.
She's worried sick
Anyone know what's the worse/best scenario?
Thanks in advance

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SarahAndQuack · 31/08/2020 15:31

Yes, I have books by chefs with repeated recipes, but looking at them, they either seem to have disclaimers in the text (eg., 'this was first published in the Telegraph') or in the acknowledgments/back matter.

I don't know if there are rules for how much of a recipe you have to change to make it count as 'new,' but I bet there will be rules.

Absolutely20 · 31/08/2020 15:53

@CuriousaboutSamphire

I suspect we are saying some of the same things but in different ways as I disagree with nothing you said ... But don't seem to be able to explain what I mean, which is next to usess of me!

I have at least 2 books by.well know chefs that identical to each other, which is why I mentioned that!

This is the academic chat board though, not for chefs!
labellesusage · 31/08/2020 15:59

Right will try and answer as many as possible

@toiletpaper both works were her own. Original cited etc but her mistake was to reuse the original and not double cite it or whatever it's called

@KaptainKaveman didn't know this was an English exam. Bore off.

@mumwon you hit the nail on the head there.

@user14562156358 English isn't her 1st language and she's too ashamed to ask. She hasn't even told her husband ☹️

I suppose she waits to see what the university decides.

Thank you for your input

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SarahAndQuack · 31/08/2020 16:20

Original cited etc but her mistake was to reuse the original and not double cite it or whatever it's called

Ok, so she cited in the original but not in the second one? So in the first essay, it was something like:

'Approximately 1 in 250 people experienced palpitations after taking this drug (Smith and Jones, 2009).'

and in the second she just dropped the reference and had:

'Approximately 1 in 250 people experienced palpitations after taking this drug.'

?

If so, that's straight plagiarism. IME it is usually considered more serious than self plagiarism, and the fact she cited correctly in an earlier text won't be relevant - it's nothing to do with it. It's not plagiarising her own previous essay.

Or am I still not getting it?

Doccomplaint · 31/08/2020 16:26

I really wonder how the friend feels about having her situation put on here.

labellesusage · 31/08/2020 16:42

@SarahAndQuack unfortunately that's correct. Sorry I can't go into more detail.

@Doccomplaint she knows. I explained that some body on here may know and she agreed for me asking.

We will have to see what tomorrow brings.

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Doccomplaint · 31/08/2020 16:43

That’s straight plagiarism then. Sorry.

labellesusage · 31/08/2020 16:49

I know it is . ☹️ I came to you wise people as I didn't know how to help. I found things on line saying that university's can make you rewrite and will cap the mark at 40.
I hope she doesn't get kicked off the course as we finish in October. Totally gutted for her.

I will be having this thread deleted later on her request. She only wanted it to run for a day if you know what I mean.

Thank you again

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Doccomplaint · 31/08/2020 16:51

She might get a capped resit.

SarahAndQuack · 31/08/2020 17:18

Different universities have different rules. There's no standardisation the way there is at school. So no point asking us to generalise.

I think maybe the most useful thing to do would be to get her to understand what she's done wrong, so she can at least show her examiners she understands now.

The problem seems to me to be that she (and you) both think the first assignment has some relevance to the second. It doesn't. Forget about it. It has nothing to do with the situation at all.

The issue is that, every single time you take someone else's research or idea and use it, you have to give credit to them. Otherwise, you are passing it off as your own, and that is plagiarism.

If you referenced correctly in one essay, and then plagiarised the same source(s) in another, it's still plagiarism; the fact you'd done it right once doesn't mean it's ok to do it wrong the second time.

Imagine if you'd done a maths question, and you'd slipped up and mistakenly claimed 4+7 was 10. There would be no point in saying 'but look, last year, I didn't make this mistake: I knew it was 11 then!'

It's similar here.

ItalianHat · 02/09/2020 02:56

She used something from a previous assignment she had written but didn't reference herself.

That’s clearly plagiarism. It’s A form of cheating: getting marks twice for one piece of work. Pretty much every university will have something about this in its regulations.

How odd that neither she nor you understand this. Ethical blind spot that’s quite worrying.

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