If you plant an apple seed any type of apple could grow…

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Just gone down the wormhole of apples whilst trying to read about Granny Smith.

So an apple seed does not grow the same variety of the one it came from.

It is a genetic lottery and you could get any type of apple. A new amazing variety or a hard sour apple.

So how do they keep making Granny Smiths? Well it’s a clone of the first ever Granny Smith tree. They use clippings and attach that to another tree. So there is no actual Granny Smith tree!

It’s really fascinating when you search how all these apples were discovered.

For example how Pink Lady got trademarked and How you have to be part of a club to grow the Jazz Apple.

Thank you, i will do that.

What I’ve noticed over the years is that there’s a sequence to it. A new variety is introduced that is more tasty than the old with a distinct flavour, supermarkets pick it up and presumably growers, it gets more and more popular until it is ‘The’ default apple, it gets bigger and more and more bland through this process. Then a new variety appears again. Rinse and repeat.

I have just remembered that cross pollinated courgettes and squash family members can produce seed which makes you ill if you eat the grown produce. Toxic squash syndrome l.

There was a thing that Monsato, now part of Bayer, produced genetically modified seeds that are "Round Up Ready", not affected by glyphosate herbicides like "Round Up" also manufactured by Monsato, but the resultant plant is sterile, so the farmer is unable to retain some of his crop for seed the following year. The unacceptable face of the agri-business.

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If you get an ID next year, please come back and tell us.

Pumpkins and squashes can come true from seed, as long as you control the pollination. Unlike apples they're all self fertile, so you just have to make sure they don't get rogue pollen introduced.

I had a beautiful cherry tree in my last garden. It grew the most delicious, dark red almost black cherries. I saw a couple of off shoots growing and dug and potted them up but the fruits the one I planted in the ground were different and have since found out they are cherry plums. They grow differently, along the branch instead of in pairs of cherries like the original tree. It also had thorns, something the original tree didn't have. I guess the cherry was grafted onto cherry plum rootstock which is why the offshoots were different to the fruiting part of the original tree.

I'm thinking you must all be liars and bluffers and this cannot possibly be true??!

Wow.

I am so impressed that she even thought to do that. What a brilliant idea.

if you genuinely have apple trees grown from seed that have edible sweet fruit then you have won the apple genetic lottery and could make some serious ££££££ from it.

i mentioned your post this morning to my husband and he really really wants to know how we could make money from it. Its the most excited hes ever been about me describing a mumsnet thread to him 🤣

@BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn speaking to tree owner, ID this year wouldn't have been possible as it had no apples at all this year. Nada. I'm told that last year was a mast year where the trees over produce hugely so it is normal for there to be low fruit the following year but none at all?

Wondering whether this is something to do with lack of pollen on other trees now with my new found knowledge. If all apple trees over produce in a mast year and then need a bit of a rest the following year, maybe there are less flowers and less pollen to go around? Seems a bit mysterious that there were no apples at all.

Could have been a frost at the wrong time - that can wipe out all the blossom. Or a consequence of the drought.

Such a shame. Pink lady used to be so delicious. Now it’s only Cox that tastes like a real apple. With flavour.

I don’t get why this sounds so odd. It’s the same with roses.

I saw the thread title and thought it was a metaphor for not knowing what your children will grow up like.