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Did or does your Mum admire any strong and/or successful women?

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TheTecknician · 02/10/2026 20:17

Mine did. She's long gone, born in 1938, and she certainly had her favourites, or at least ladies that made an impression:

Margaret Thatcher. I don't know what Mum thought of her politics but she was always amazed by her stamina and determination.
Tina Turner. For extricating herself from a brutal marriage and restarting her career from virtually nothing.
Debbie Harry. Mum was definitely a Blondie fan and it wasn't that common then for a woman to lead a successful group. We could also mention Patti Smith and Ann and Nancy Wilson.
Vivienne Westwood. Very focused businesswoman who knew what she wanted. Being with Malcolm McLaren can't always have been easy!
Gloria Hunniford. Mum always admired her style and fashion sense for an older woman. I'm sure a fashion magazine declared GH as their best-dressed woman once or twice.

Any more?

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CrystalSingerFan · 03/10/2026 21:09

God bless the 70's feminists. (My sisters would have been around 14 in 1980)

One went on to work for Rediffusion airplane simulators and travelled around, installing them. Once she was woken up in a Japanese tower block hotel by her husband (worked for the same company) who told her that it was an earthquake and he didn't want her to miss it. 😂

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/10/2026 23:43

NovemberMorn · 03/10/2026 18:20

My mum was quite prim and proper, but she loved Diana Dors for some reason. She also admired Diana Ross and thought Patricia Routledge (especially as Hettie) was hilarious.

Diana Dors was glorious!

Stereotypical beauty, femme fatal, boss in "The Worm that Turned", fairy godmother in Prince Chaming. Never played stupid. Amazing woman.💃

My granny loved her. And so did I.😍

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/10/2026 23:49

God bless the 70's feminists.

Absolutely!👏👏👏
We'd be fucked without them.

EverybodyLTB · 04/10/2026 00:43

My nan (born in the 20s) was such a champion of women, she loved Tina Turner which is a brilliant common theme on this thread! She loved Shirley Bassey, Moira Stewart, Diana Dors, Celine Dion, any woman who was bossing it publicly my nan would be saying “isn’t she marvellous” or “that’s a very strong woman there” she took no shit from anyone and was her own woman even when it was still deeply unfashionable. She was always cheerleading any woman doing anything, even a neighbour or someone in a shop would get a blast of generous compliments and encouragement. She meant it, too, and never bitched behind anyone’s back.

Somehow, some way, my born late 50s mum is a misogynistic pick-me! She has never EVER complimented me, the only thing good she has to say about any other woman, ever, is if she’s thin. Even then, she can’t ’love herself’ or ‘flaunt it’ in any way. Jabs are no good, that’s cheating, you have to have starved yourself and been miserable for years to achieve acceptable thinness.

A woman having any job that’s not a nurse or secretary is a weirdo ball breaker that no man will go near, and quite rightly! Nothing I’ve ever done will be as good as a woman who bags a rich husband that doesn’t beat them up. Not getting beaten up regularly means you’re really lucky! A little bit of beating up is fine, as men are naturally violent as they are born/made to lead and protect women….so naturally sometimes it spills over. Weirdly she obsesses over and sucks up to all her boyfriends, but also picks at them, bullies and controls them. How they accept this odd balance is beyond me. My nan was so cool and progressive, I don’t know what made my mum malfunction, but I’m a staunch feminist and am teaching my kids the same. I don’t know, maybe pick-mes come through recessive genes and I’ll have a great granddaughter one day who scurries around after a man, and calls successful women fat slags. Please no!!

TooBigForMyBoots · 04/10/2026 02:30

EverybodyLTB · 04/10/2026 00:43

My nan (born in the 20s) was such a champion of women, she loved Tina Turner which is a brilliant common theme on this thread! She loved Shirley Bassey, Moira Stewart, Diana Dors, Celine Dion, any woman who was bossing it publicly my nan would be saying “isn’t she marvellous” or “that’s a very strong woman there” she took no shit from anyone and was her own woman even when it was still deeply unfashionable. She was always cheerleading any woman doing anything, even a neighbour or someone in a shop would get a blast of generous compliments and encouragement. She meant it, too, and never bitched behind anyone’s back.

Somehow, some way, my born late 50s mum is a misogynistic pick-me! She has never EVER complimented me, the only thing good she has to say about any other woman, ever, is if she’s thin. Even then, she can’t ’love herself’ or ‘flaunt it’ in any way. Jabs are no good, that’s cheating, you have to have starved yourself and been miserable for years to achieve acceptable thinness.

A woman having any job that’s not a nurse or secretary is a weirdo ball breaker that no man will go near, and quite rightly! Nothing I’ve ever done will be as good as a woman who bags a rich husband that doesn’t beat them up. Not getting beaten up regularly means you’re really lucky! A little bit of beating up is fine, as men are naturally violent as they are born/made to lead and protect women….so naturally sometimes it spills over. Weirdly she obsesses over and sucks up to all her boyfriends, but also picks at them, bullies and controls them. How they accept this odd balance is beyond me. My nan was so cool and progressive, I don’t know what made my mum malfunction, but I’m a staunch feminist and am teaching my kids the same. I don’t know, maybe pick-mes come through recessive genes and I’ll have a great granddaughter one day who scurries around after a man, and calls successful women fat slags. Please no!!

Your granny was a brave,.intelligent woman who passed her knowledge on to you @EverybodyLTB.💞

There's no recessive gene for misogyny.

Just the patriarchy.😕

NuNameNuMe · 04/10/2026 08:00

My mum admired Barbara Castle a lot for sticking up for people and being based in reality. She also spoke highly of a local WPC who often walked the beat around our streets. My mum knew her professionally, and told me that the WPC was never was able to progress to more than that because of police misogyny which I can believe, that being in the 70s-80s.

CossyBunt · 04/10/2026 10:08

My grandmother who was born in the 1920s was far more tolerant and liberal than my mother, who was born in the 1950s. I wonder why?

NovemberMorn · 04/10/2026 11:26

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/10/2026 23:43

Diana Dors was glorious!

Stereotypical beauty, femme fatal, boss in "The Worm that Turned", fairy godmother in Prince Chaming. Never played stupid. Amazing woman.💃

My granny loved her. And so did I.😍

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She had brains as well as beauty.
I think I realised how much my mum loved her when she was appearing on some late night chat show, probably back in the 60s or 70's...she was clever and witty, and my mum just thought she was brilliant.
I was surprised, because, as I said my mum was a bit prim and proper, and Diana's persona was anything but.

DrMickhead · 04/10/2026 11:56

@TheTecknician i apologise that i cant positively contribute to this thread but my grandmother and mother, 1920s/1950s born, each were crippled with internal misogyny and did not like women.
I am however a huge feminist, just to disappoint both gran and mum. They basically mocked my feminist beliefs and find my lack of misogyny and hatred towards other women as though I was strange for being on my own side. Women couldn’t do anything right. Too fat/thin/pretty/ugly. It was a very toxic upbringing. That and a very violent father towards my mother and I.
My mother is now obsessed with TikTok and uses terrible tragedies such as the Cornell rape gang to praise random men who’ll “stick up for women” but will still throw digs in at the victim by asking why she was there in the first place.
Truthfully it breaks my heart.
I love my mother very much but I don’t think we’d ever be friends if she weren’t my mum. I hope my own DD when she’s an adult would have similar views on women’s rights etc and would choose to do things with me, as opposed to guilt visiting me.

Luddite26 · 04/10/2026 21:00

it's been thought provoking this thread @TheTecknician . As it has been something I've always been aware of with my mum but thinking about it now it may be part of the wedge between us. I have felt for a lot of years now that I am one of the women she also hates.
but she would call herself a feminist as she has always paid her own bills etc. and hated sexual exploitation of women.
I am more someone who tries to build other people up. She has said so many awful things about women over the years.
and then the other classic of golden balls brother being amazing super hero but every woman he has ever been in a relationship with have always been out for what they can get out of him and complete controlling bitches. well that was her narrative anyway.

One time I began to see her true colours rather than what I was wanting to see. My dad ( not brought up with as I was illegitimate and finally met him age 28), was helping me get away from a very abusive partner it had been planned a few months when DD was finishing year 6 it was time. I left
Partner went to ask my mum where I was she told him straight away, blabbed it gleefully. I obediently went back and spent 14 years being controlled. I think she was jealous that I was going to have a relationship with my dad.
Not going to hijack this thread and go on about her but seeing this misogyny and others sharing their stories makes you see it more.
when I think of my gran she always put my mum down but was ok with many other women. Mum probably got such a complex that she just hated everyone. while I have always tried to support her and make her life better in the last 16 years I just haven't been able to cope with or at times tolerate her. sometimes I can put on a persona and visit her and feel bad that I don't then she will start with her comments and I can't cope with it but can't tell her why. it's all rooted in her misogyny and especially against me. I always thought it was because I was illegitimate why she hates me but I think it's just cos I'm female.

mambojambodothetango · 04/10/2026 21:19

My own mum was a big fan of strong, intelligent women who made a difference. Sadly, she's no longer with us, but has passed down the vibe to siblings and me, including my brother. MIL on the other hand is a 'Daddy's girl' type who will trample on other women to get male approval.

TheTecknician · 04/10/2026 21:30

Women hating women. Who'd have thunk it? Makes me wonder if these types would have preferred to be men.

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TorroFerney · 05/10/2026 13:53

TheTecknician · 04/10/2026 21:30

Women hating women. Who'd have thunk it? Makes me wonder if these types would have preferred to be men.

I think for my mum some of it was generational/societal - women well her at least had very little agency, being thin or attractive a good home maker or whatever was a passport to a better life, getting married even a bad marriage got her out of an awful home situation. She left school at 15 so no qualifications. I think she resents the fact that I earn well, have a husband who cooks and cleans etc.

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