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My Aunt won't let her son be independent because of her anxiety

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PrawnDippers · 27/09/2026 21:40

Posting here for traffic. This is a very complicated situation so I will try to keep it relatively short..

My cousin (I will call him Tom, not his real name) is in his late 30's has a diagnosis of ASD. He's bright, very intelligent, capable, usually sociable and overall a lovely person to be around. He has full capacity and is able to make his own choices and decisions

Tom has lived with his parents his whole life. He's an only child. He's never had a job, never had to be independent with money or with life skills. He has few friends and he's never had a relationship afaik. He left school at 16 (with a handful of gcse's) and never went to college etc.

Tom's parents (my Aunt and Uncle) have cared for him his entire life. Cooked all his meals, done all his washing, tidied up after him, managed his money etc. His mother has very, very bad anxiety herself but won't accept she has a problem or accept any help for it. Most of her anxiety is focused on that something bad will happen to Tom if she doesn't look after him properly. Because of this she's refused to let him grow up in many ways and be independent. For example she won't let him travel on a bus or train by himself in case it crashes and he dies... She won't let him get a McDonald's etc in case he gets food poisoning and dies from that. It's extreme to the point where she has a panic attack if he leaves the house on his own. He knows this so now he just doesn't go out because it isn't worth her upset. His Dad isn't much better and will do anything to keep the peace and my Aunt happy.

Tom came to me recently asking for advice. They have had a number of serious rows in recent months (usually because Tom wants to go out or do something without his parents and his mum refuses) and it's escalating.

He now wants to look at moving out of his parents house. The problem is that Tom has lived such a sheltered life, that I don't think he would have a clue how to live independently. We have looked at supported living houses (where he would have his own room + staff on hand 24/7). However most of these set ups seem to be geared towards people with less capacity and more learning disabilities than Tom has. Because of this he isn't keen on the idea.

He can't move in with me and there is few other family members that he could.

He says that he wants his own flat where he can come and go as he pleases. We also looked at him potentially having a flat of his own but with support workers or carers coming in daily. But i think we're concerned about how his Mum would react to this and someone else "caring" for him. She doesn't yet know about this plan to move out. I have encouraged Tom to tell her but understandably he's concerned how she will react (I suspect not well based on previous experience).

Fwiw adult Social Services have been involved with Tom/his parents in the past. His Mum didn't like them "interfering" and got rid of them as quickly as possible.

Any suggestions on how to raise the idea of Tom moving out with my Aunt and Uncle moving out would be appreciated.

OP posts:
PrawnDippers · 29/09/2026 21:01

To answer some questions - we have looked at Shared Lives. I think it's a very realistic option and could potentially be a fantastic stepping stone to living independently if that's what my cousin eventually wants. But yet again, his mum won't entertain the idea because she doesn't want anyone looking after "her little boy"... 🙄 It's like she can't see past tomorrow or plan for anything in the future.

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SoggyTissue · 29/09/2026 22:23

PrawnDippers · 29/09/2026 20:57

I've contacted the Social Services (in the area where they live) today. My Cousin and his parents don't know I've done this.

I spoke to my cousin again last night and it sounds like things are getting worse between them. They had another row the other day because my cousin wants to start going to a local sports club and once again, she refuses to allow him any independence.

I'll update once SS have visited them.

Well done, I think youve done the right thing.

Moonandstarcrete1 · 29/09/2026 22:44

I think this is one of the saddest things ive read on here. Obviously 'Toms' parents care for him, but they have ruined his life. I cant believe he doesnt go out just to keep his mum happy. Why is it always Mothers and sons in scenarios like this.
Im so glad he has you trying to help him, he has many year left and I hope he is able to build an independent life for himself

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Aydel · 29/09/2026 23:30

I’m in a FB group for women over 60, and the number of women on there whose sons in their late 30s and 40s are still living at home is quite shocking - their mothers love them being at home and clearly still do everything for them. A lot of the sons don’t appear to work or do something part time “and socialise with online friends that they meet through gaming.” So although your cousin has additional needs, he’s not an outlier.

Stinkybooks · 29/09/2026 23:44

Well done Prawn on contacting social services.
Its a great pity intervention didn’t take place 15-20 years ago. Poor Tom has missed out on so much. your aunt sounds very unwell and clearly needs help too.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 30/09/2026 06:53

Honestly he has got to nearly 40. Not much anyone can do for him at this point because he is a grown man. If you swoop in, or anyone else, he is just going to expect you to be his saviour. What a waste of his life.

ETA I didn't see he is disabled. Obviously if she is witholding PIP and he has no income that is abuse. Why did his father not step in at any point? Both of them are at fault here, him mostly as the only adult with full mental capacity in the home!

Yogabearmous · 30/09/2026 06:58

Someone needs to explain to aunt that one day she and her husband will both die and her son will be left without any independence skills and no one to help.
she needs to let him grow up. She is depriving him of a life.

TISSHA · 30/09/2026 07:08

Well done OP, you’ve done absolutely the right thing. Don’t lose momentum, take it as your personal crusade to get him out of this abusive situation.

Even though it is driven by love, you are watching someone be abused.

He has been robbed of his adult life by his mother. All those years he has lost being trapped and alone, just heartbreaking. He will never get those years back, ever.

Don’t let him be robbed of any more.

Please don’t give up on him. He needs someone to help advocate. As the abused person, he can’t see it all as clearly as someone on the outside and is likely riddled with guilt and fear. He has been shown over and over again that the world is scary, bad, dangerous and not for him. Help the scales fall and let him see how wonderful his life could be.

Good luck, he is lucky to have you

Jk987 · 30/09/2026 07:21

His parents have failed him. Why does everyone pussy foot around them when they should be held accountable? It’s cruel they haven’t let him have any freedom to grow. Dad is complicit and they are both to blame.

I think he should do some overnights somewhere rather than go cold turkey and suddenly move out for good. He’ll probably learn independence quicker than you think because he has full capacity and he’s bright.

He should start by volunteering in somewhere like a charity shop or animal shelter. Can he have the occasional night with you?

Sofedup15 · 30/09/2026 07:37

Sorry stupidly didn't read ur updates before posting.
Well done on contacting social servicea

Bitsostuff · 30/09/2026 07:44

People who cannot look after themselves are not usually free to come and go

This is utter rubbish. Lots of disabled people need considerable support and still have fl capacity.

@PrawnDippers none of this is going to get better unless Tom can break free of his mum and she knows that. What you're witnessing is your cousin being controlled and emotionally abused.

BeMintFatball · 30/09/2026 08:19

We have a young adult daughter with learning disabilities and severe mental health.

Tom’s finances really need a good look.

is aunt holding Tom’s PIP as a nest egg for future? Very unwise. Universal credit stops once a claimant has over £16,000. Also think about inheritance from parents will. Again means tested benefits will stop until the money runs out. PIP is excluded from this but you can’t live on PIP alone.

Intellectual disability has a classification. Anyone with an IQ below 70 has an intellectual disability. This can be tested by a psychologist or school SENCO. For example the WRIT test stands for wide ranging intelligence test. I know this because my daughter had this assessment to see if she qualified as a Special Olympics athlete . Readers she scored 65 and went on to represent Great Britain in her chosen sport.

As Tom has a ‘handful’ of GCSE it does not sound like he is intellectually disabled. Help might not be easy to get. Recently I tried to get funding for my daughter to go to a day centre. She has friends there , peer support would have really helped her overcome grief from losing a close relative. A social worker did a care assessment and turned her down as she could not see how the intellectual disability affected DD and could only see her mental health condition . Don’t assume help is out there, people do fall through the cracks

Tom has been limited by his mother. I think this thread is one of the saddest I’ve read on MN. The sooner he is de tangled from his mother the better. @PrawnDippers good luck , you are a star for wanting to help Tom.

Newcybrown · 30/09/2026 11:37

So i know you say he has complete capacity, however this isnt true as he has seemingly 0 independent living skills. Hes physically capable, but impaired in other ways as cannot cook, clean, travel etc. All basic daily living skills. It sounds like he has the potential to do these things but he is not allowed to.

Its quite dependent on each local authority the gateway into services however it sounds like he does need some supported accommodation with people who can help him with learning how to cook, clean, pay bills etc so that he will eventually move on into full independence.

Him having gcses wouldnt stop him accessing these services. I work i supported housing and we have people with degrees who need support in other areas! The first steps will be contacting adult social care for him and then the council (he is an adult and the parents dont get a say) but ultimately he needs to learn to put boundaries in place and if he wants this, hes going to have to have a hard conversation, hopefully with other family support.

She tells him he cant do a b and c, but he is a grown adult and nobody can actually stop him. I understand there will be a strong phychological hold she has on him but the reality of it is, he is going to have to start saying no to her and doing what is right for him.

Pps have also mentioned its worth speaking to the parents to remind them thwy wont be around forever, so thier best bet is to prepare him for the world now with support rather than leave him to struggle by himself. He really needs to start standing up for himself though or this will not stop. I know this is hard and has potential to cause friction and upset but this poor man has not had the chance to live a normal life because of hia mother.

Newcybrown · 30/09/2026 11:43

Also yes, this does look like financial abuse. He doesnt know where his money goes and gets spending money. That money should be going to him or a council appointed appointee who is impartial and helps to manage bills and finances. This is quite serious and ive seen this happen so much in my sector. Your cousin may not see it this way as its all he has ever known but your aunt is disabling him. Like a pp said, even if what she is doing comes from a place of love, this doesnt also mean its not abusive too. Your cousin deserves better.

ToadRage · 30/09/2026 11:54

Maybe start with a part time job. It may be hard for his Mum to begin with but once she has realised he is still coming home unscathed every day she may be able to loosen the reins a bit. Once he has some more money coming in he can save for a flat and gradually make more noise about that giving her time to get used to it and in the meantime he needs to learn some life skills. If Mum won't maybe you can give him some crash courses in washing clothes, budgeting, simple meals. My brother has ASD, he lives alone in a rented 1 bed house and Mum goes in occasionally to check on him.

Cheese0melette · 30/09/2026 11:58

I suspect you need legal advice on this. Does she manage his income because she is legally allowed to or because that’s just what has always happened?

I suspect there is a very fine line in this case between support and abuse so I would try and find legal help.

SoftandQuiet · 30/09/2026 12:13

Poor Tom, you have 100% done the right thing. Thank goodness he has you. This kind of thing has been going on for all time, selfish parent(s) controlling a vulnerable child for their benefit, but when they die, the poor child/adult is devastated and lost.

MrsBatshitRatshit · 30/09/2026 12:28

I don't think anything is likely to change until Tom starts asserting himself.

Diversion · 30/09/2026 12:29

Disability Rights UK have a page on advocacy, they may be able to help him have his voice heard. There is a huge gap where people require support but do not meet the threshold for supported living or a care package from Adult Social Care. See if you can get him assessed and go from there. They may be able to signpost to some skills groups etc.

TheBewleySisters · 30/09/2026 12:46

What would happen if he said 'no' to her? For example in the latest example you gave of him wanting to join the sports club and she said 'no'. How on earth can she stop him?

ImmortalNowBabyDoll · 30/09/2026 13:15

This sounds like it goes beyond over-protective Mum and into a controlling and coercive situation.

I have a cousin who is (from what you describe) much, much more disabled that your cousin, and he lives in supported living. He has a very good routine that carers helped him set up and cooks for himself, manages his laundry, and is mostly very independent.

He can't read or do basic maths, so his Dad handles all that, and they have to have carer supervision for some things like BBQs. He also has a carer to drive him places he needs to go, help him keep track of appointments and be on hand when he has contact with his son (who, sadly, has the same syndrome but is even more disabled by it so needs a huge amount of parenting.)

I've met the carers and honestly most of what they do is just being on standby and occasionally stepping in ("Hang on, you can't put that metal fork into the microwave.")

It sounds like your cousin has none of those challenges and with a bit of guidance on how to manage things and perhaps a designated person to manage his money (could you maybe do that?) he would be fine.

Ilikewinter · 30/09/2026 15:19

Cheese0melette · 30/09/2026 11:58

I suspect you need legal advice on this. Does she manage his income because she is legally allowed to or because that’s just what has always happened?

I suspect there is a very fine line in this case between support and abuse so I would try and find legal help.

I was just thinking that it almost sounds borderline abuse. How can she refuse him gping to a social club. Glad to hear your updates OP, just hope SS reach out to him and hes 'allowed' to engage with them.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 30/09/2026 15:24

TheBewleySisters · 30/09/2026 12:46

What would happen if he said 'no' to her? For example in the latest example you gave of him wanting to join the sports club and she said 'no'. How on earth can she stop him?

This was what I wonder. Does Tom back down very easily if his mum does the 'you're not leaving this house' thing? Because I think if he can learn to gently tell his mum that she can't control what he does, and not be stopped from doing what he wants to, he will be half way there.

What is she doing to stop him joining the sports club? She can't lock a grown man in the house or throw herself in front of the door to stop him just going out - is she withholding access to his own money from him? Because Tom having control over his own money might be another good starting point.

5682Jhd · 30/09/2026 15:27

I also think Tom needs help from adult social services. He is being controlled in a sort of abusive way, whatever her reasons your aunt stopping Tom from having a life, he must feel so frustrated, I hope someone listens and helps him.

Sassylovesbooks · 30/09/2026 15:44

What a very sad situation OP. I feel so sorry for your poor cousin. Your Aunt and Uncle may love their son, but they are preventing him from leading his own life, to the point that it's abusive.

It sounds as if Tom would be capable of living independently and looking after himself, if he's taught every day life skills and given a chance.

Calling Adult Social Care, is the right move. Hopefully, they can step in and help your cousin.

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