Anyone listening to Jeremy Vine over the alert?

[princesspadam]

Dear god! The amount of hand wringing it’s caused with callers reporting their children screaming, one callers wife hasn’t slept all weekend

whats wrong with everyone? talk about snow flake

this is fairly standard practice in other parts of the globe (have had it several times in the US)

my DCs didn’t even mention it when I got home on Friday night (neither did DP)

The message was unnecessary and patronising, but no way was the alert "terrifying". The whole situation is irritating because it demonstrates the fact that the Government thinks it's OK to patronise the population, but it it really something most of us would have thought about for more than a minute on the day?

I've seen loads of messages about the fire risk but every day there are hundreds of campfires/BBQs etc. A couple of weeks ago I was camping in an area where there had very recently been nearby significant wildfire but the village shop was still selling disposable BBQs. Clearly your proposed methods weren't working so something else had to be tried and this alert has at least provoked a lot of conversations. And if you say people obviously hadn't seen the messages that rather proves the point.

People just typically aren’t great with change. One or two more and we won’t remember life without it.

It arrived twice on my phone. The first time, about 7pm I jumped. The second time, about 10pm I was driving the car and that, frankly, could have been dangerous as I jumped again but at the wheel. Why it was sent twice I know not

Jeremy Vine is such a scaremongering tedious mansplaining bore. He’s the Daily Mail on the radio.

This was raised before and women’s rights organisations should have been telling women how to turn off the alerts. Even Jacob Rees Mogg posted on how to turn them off , so if even he could manage it, it can’t be that hard. There’s always some group that will moan no matter what the government does

At least it’s given him a rest from slagging off disabled people!

It's so ridiculous 🤣🤣 We've had them before as tests - was that also unnecessary and terrifying? Goodness me.

Quite funny though in my neighborhood WhatsApp, we had at least 5 messages going "I've just received this nationwide alert" "And me" "Me too"

Yes loves, it's a NATIONWIDE alert - we all got it!

Just switch them off, you won't miss it, there were about 10 threads on here running directly it went off, headlines on BBC news and other news sites.

The amount of people claiming to be adults who got their knickers in a knot over a a couple of minutes of noise, and are still complaining about it 3 days later is pathetic.

@summater you might miss it if it is only local message. We have had a few fires on verges on main road near us in last few days (possibly from discarded cigarettes - idiots). Luckily all contained and put out quickly. But if one was to spread then I assume we would get a localised notification re precautions to take, warning of potential evacuation etc

Agreed but not to tell people not to use disposable BBQs. Tell about a hurricane or earthquake then yes, nuclear attack yes incoming ash cloud from Icelandic volcano and please stay indoors then yes but not to say please don't use a disposable BBQ so many people I know have disabled these alerts now it's shocking. Not only that plenty of people got it multiple times my 88 dad rang me very flustered at 9.30pm as he'd had it several times and couldn't sleep it had gone off every 20 minutes from 7pm. I couldn't talk him through disabling it so he had to turn his phone off.

We had some local kids setting off fireworks hours after the alert. Police spoke to them. They are a whole other category of stupid.

Just had an argument heated discussion with DH who objects to the "over use" of the alarm and it should be reserved for tsunamis and imminent threat to life. I pointed out it's only be used once to my knowledge, other than to test it and that the people complaining are those who enjoy being offended. The tin hat brigade in particular.

You now have all these people disabling it because they disapprove, just like anti vaxxers declining measles vaccines.

The big concern, for me, is people believing everyone is stupid because the media tells them to believe that. Forming an opinion based on the opinion of a propaganda machine seems bizarre.

The media says we're all stupid, especially my neighbour and those people I've never met before, so I'm going to believe it and see the need for this 'intervention' because people are stupid.

Most adults I know have common sense. If most adults others know don't have common sense, either their judgement is lacking in friends or their definition of 'common sense' is questionable.

Well here's 18 examples of no common sense in one small area on one day.

So what. Where are the examples of everyone who didn't do those things? Do you always judge entire populations based on 18 samples?

I don’t think the issue is overuse, it’s misuse.

I also don’t recall ever having had an alert other than the tests a few years ago. But when we all did get one it turned out to be pointless (and counterproductive, since the fire service is getting flooded with over-zealous people ringing 999 about the neighbours having a bbq in the garden).

That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have an alert system. It’s a very good thing. If used properly.

I detest anti-vaxxers, covid nutters, anti-5G mast loons etc as much as anyone else.

I had to turn it off, someone saying their child was so scared they were screaming. I felt like throwing the radio out of the window, it was pathetic.

Because that is exactly the bloody problem here

Do you not think the government had been in contact with fire services nationally? I don’t think they decided to casually send out a national warning with no evidence to support it.

No, it's really not. There is a difference between highlighting potential issues versus assuming everyone is stupid, name calling, shaming etc.

Am I to assume you're of a lesser intellectual capacity because the media told me that we're all stupid unless, and until, you overtly state otherwise?

What a sad world!

You're entitled to your opinion.

As someone who lived for many years in the US I can confirm I never received an emergency alert over a fucking bbq.

Unfortunately the terminally stupid will ignore and the dim who are frightened of anything and everything get upset, whilst normal people roll their eyes. It goes along with warning signs on the bleeding obvious.

Don't forget half the population has below average IQ.