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Why are ADHD benefits in the firing line?

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FunStork · 08/07/2026 22:36

I've been seeing this a lot recently.

Feels like the media is very much against ADHD benefits claims.

Why is that the one that seems to be getting all the focus?

Another one from BBC Verify tonight:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c24ym9yd8p6o

Is this an orchestrated campaign?

The head and shoulders of Andy Burnham, wearing glasses, a white shirt and a blue blazer, on a blue Verify-style background, with Verify logo in the top left hand side corner.

How rise in ADHD benefits claims is adding to Andy Burnham's welfare challenge

More than 100,000 people with ADHD as their main condition receive Pip, latest figures show, an increase of 40% since Labour came to power.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c24ym9yd8p6o

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chocoluv · 09/07/2026 11:01

x2boys · 09/07/2026 10:46

£500 wont be enough to live on.

He’s only getting £500 currently as he lives at home with his parents.

If he lived alone, he’d get universal credit and his rent etc paid.

x2boys · 09/07/2026 11:02

angelos02 · 09/07/2026 10:51

I know someone that gets PIP for mobility issues and has just got a dog!

And ?
We have a mobilty car for my for he can walk for miles hes also severely autistic with severe learning disabillities and currently id entitlrd to HRM under severe cogntive impairment ( DLA)
Hes transtioning to PIP right now he cannot undertake a journey from A to B independently as cogntivley hes around 2/3
So he should still qualufy for HRM.

Nocameltoeleggingsplease · 09/07/2026 11:03

Because a lot of people don’t believe it is real and think it is bad parenting and naughty kids

Emmasblackboard · 09/07/2026 11:05

BackToLurk · 09/07/2026 10:35

Hi @Emmasblackboard can I recommend you look at the Facebook Group ADHD UK | Support Group for Parents of Adult Children. Also look at ADHD UK's website. I appreciate you are not the parent but there is lots of great advice and support.

Thank you for that. I’m finding it difficult being between children’s services and adult services now he’s 18 but I did see it coming because same happened to my friend’s son.

Octavia64 · 09/07/2026 11:05

Comeinsideforacupoftea · 09/07/2026 10:18

So are you actually comparing cancer to ADHD?

Both fall within the same benefit so yes?

x2boys · 09/07/2026 11:06

Viviennemary · 09/07/2026 10:50

I agree. People with genuine debilitating conditions are struggling through complicated forms. While other people in the know seem to be getting pip for no reason . I think Pip should be abolished and replaced with a benefit for people with disabilities

You tjhink PIP should be abolished and replaced with a benefit for people witj disabillities ??
Thats exactly what PIP is.

HPFA · 09/07/2026 11:09

emuloc · 09/07/2026 10:54

So? Does having mobility problems mean that you cannot have a dog? This person that you are talking about, may have a big enough garden for their dog, employ a dog walker, may have a scooter, may have family to walk the dog, etc, etc, etc!

I was puzzling over this one too!

Have a daughter just diagnosed with inflammatory arthritis so has limited mobility at the moment but she still tries to take a walk every day. We don't have a dog but no reason why one couldn't accompany her if we did!

I haven't looked into what we could claim because she's just started the medication which obviously we hope will work! But if nothing improves she's unlikely to be successful in job searches. It's annoying to see this "just get a job" stuff when employers can take their pick of candidates with no health issues. What are people supposed to live on?

Octavia64 · 09/07/2026 11:10

lemons82 · 09/07/2026 10:32

I have severe anxiety but still manage to hold down a job with the help of medication. Would I be eligible to claim PIP?

Anyone who thinks they might be eligible is welcome to apply.

you fill in the form and the Dwp tell you if you get it.

MichaelmasDaisiesAndAutumSunset · 09/07/2026 11:11

The problem is ADHD is a "trait" not an illness - it is an inherent way of being (as are many other conditions). It is not like cancer in that respect and comparisons with such are meaningless.There is a huge variability with how people cope with it: when it is lined up with their other traits this can either make it harder or easier for them to live with, to the extent that for some people it is disabling and that for others it isn't has little to no material effect.

However, we are now less willing than ever to view it as something with which many people can "cope". Yes, you might have been a chief rocket scientist for NASA without it, but if with it you are holding down a job, supporting yourself and not suffering excessively it is not disabling, and there is no need for the state to intervene. This is the same for many conditions, and coping can change. Some people will become less able to cope, others more able.

But ultimately the problem is taxes are sky-high, they are not paying for what we need already, people are dissatisfied with the state of affairs generally (I know I am) and so (a) feel they should be entitled to more and so will think about claiming when they haven't before and/or (b) will feel more resentful of people claiming. Additionally, I think we are less resilient to pain and suffering of any kind than we were 30 - 50 years ago. We are used to comfort and we don't expect things to be hard, which is a great testament to the leaps society has made, but we can't expect to be comfortable all the time.

My personal view is that if you can manage to support yourself, the state shouldn't be required to intervene; and individuals should feel a moral obligation to do everything they can to avoid state intervention. People talk about "burnout" and I get that it is much harder for some people to do certain things than others but no one has a right to live a life that doesn't render them exhausted. Would it be nice? Yes, of course, but for some of us, that is just what there is. Again, it is not the job of the state, in my view, to tax some to pay for other's comfort. For their necessities when they can't do that themselves yes of course, but so that people who can have a reasonable standard of living without assistance to have a better one? I personally don't think so. You of course then get into what constitutes "reasonable", and that is an excellent question, and one that might result in many more or many fewer claimants, dependent on where you fall. But there has to be an analysis of the cost against the societal benefit, not just the benefit to those who are recipients. I honestly don't know where I would draw that line, and if I did whether eligible numbers would go up or down. What I do know is that I have a lovely series of "alphabet" conditions/traits that have made my life less or more difficult over time, that I go to bed and get up exhausted, that I am almost always in a greater or lesser degree of pain and that sometimes I shut down completely for a couple of days to recharge. But I can manage, and so I do. It is what it is. I'm not sure why other people should pay to make my life easier when I can cope. And I think we really need people to try to cope more.

Finally, the massive uptake in claimants based on conditions like ADHD because of greater awareness means that benefits are simply unaffordable, and so that is drawing attention to it. And shockingly, the first place we look is at conditions that have seen th biggest increase in claimants.

glitterpaperchain · 09/07/2026 11:11

chocoluv · 09/07/2026 10:43

Yes and the evidence with ADHD is knowing the right things to say and boxes to tick, that’s the issue.
(which is really frustrating for those with actual debilitating ADHD)

Half of the time it’s the parents forcing it because they benefit from it too.

And I completely agree about the lack of support for young people.

I have never been a ‘benefit basher’ before but I am shocked at how many young people are not only getting benefits but also having no aspirations for a career because of the benefit system.

This 16yo boy who is receiving £500 a month is not wanting to go to college because he thinks he can’t get ever a job in the future.

That money is meant to help him cope with life but I can’t see how it is.

I would much rather that money be put into youth centres and help young people that way.

I am shocked at how many young people are not only getting benefits but also having no aspirations for a career because of the benefit system.

I think that's where we disagree, it's not BECAUSE of the benefit system it's because society isn't offering them a better option. The jobs market is terrible, as is the housing market both buying and renting, we've seen that going to university often doesn't help, the future is bleak for young people. There are no prospects, few viable options for moving out of your parents house, no youth services. So in comparison, living off benefits doesn't look bad.

The issue is it should be the bad option. But it's all many are left with.

Octavia64 · 09/07/2026 11:15

petitpasta · 09/07/2026 10:45

A relative of mine has a full time management job, is studying for a degree and competes in a sport for which she trains most days. She has recently been diagnosed with autism and ADHD and now has pip and a brand new motability car. She openly admits that, as she works in an adjacent field, she "knew what to put on the form". This is the reason why people are getting restless about this sort of diagnosis being the gateway to taxpayers cash.

If you can hold down a management job whilst studying for a degree and participating in competitive sport I think I am entitled, as a taxpayer, to ask what is going on.

And yes, I fully intend to report her for benefit fraud because she is totally taking the piss.

I held down a job as a teacher and took part in competitive swimming while being a full time wheelchair user.

it’s not easy to measure disability.
the pip process does try - and it splits mobility (ability to walk) and care (daily living).

there are quite a lot of people who get high rate mobility because they use a wheelchair full time but hold down jobs and take part in eg swimming or wheelchair rugby.

most people would agree that these people should get extra help - not least because these days the nhs won’t give you a wheelchair you have to buy your own and if you’re lucky they’ll give you some money towards it.

Itchthescratch · 09/07/2026 11:22

glitterpaperchain · 09/07/2026 11:11

I am shocked at how many young people are not only getting benefits but also having no aspirations for a career because of the benefit system.

I think that's where we disagree, it's not BECAUSE of the benefit system it's because society isn't offering them a better option. The jobs market is terrible, as is the housing market both buying and renting, we've seen that going to university often doesn't help, the future is bleak for young people. There are no prospects, few viable options for moving out of your parents house, no youth services. So in comparison, living off benefits doesn't look bad.

The issue is it should be the bad option. But it's all many are left with.

There are lots of jobs in care homes etc that are accessible to young people. They are harder than staying at home and claiming benefits and often pay less. We need people to do these jobs in society and we will need to strongly incentivise people to do them. To some extent this will involve removing the option for people to claim often quite lucrative disability benefits.

lemonVerbenaMintsorbet · 09/07/2026 11:23

Comeinsideforacupoftea · 09/07/2026 10:18

So are you actually comparing cancer to ADHD?

In regards to cancer I’d like to know the statistics and what the increase in claims and awards for cancer actually is? So much outrage and focus on the increase in prevalence and awards for things like ASD and ADHD then insinuating not all cases are genuine ? But what are the cancer claim rates ? Are they rising by a similar amount? Are we being manipulated to be angry about benefit rates and we actually need to look at all conditions and ask why are we sicker ? What causes this and where are the weaknesses in the nhs that could proactively manage these rates.

glitterpaperchain · 09/07/2026 11:25

Itchthescratch · 09/07/2026 11:22

There are lots of jobs in care homes etc that are accessible to young people. They are harder than staying at home and claiming benefits and often pay less. We need people to do these jobs in society and we will need to strongly incentivise people to do them. To some extent this will involve removing the option for people to claim often quite lucrative disability benefits.

That kind of job doesn't provide good prospects for moving out. You'll be renting a house share that's covered in damp and mould and scraping by.

ByMerryBiscuit · 09/07/2026 11:25

Because Adult ADHD has only been rightly considered a condition since 2000 and is the 14th most claimed for main condition for PIP

All those people saying they just process it alphabetically, no I'm taking about on the form it asks what is your main condition and this is how it's recorded.

And PIP is supposed to be to cover additional costs caused by a disability.

And the criteria for PIP are around needing assistance to wash and bathe, eat or prepare food, go to the toilet, walk up to 50m unaided, communicate verbally, understand simple words, signs or symbols, plan journeys and so on.

So the fact there are more than 50k people over the age of 16 listing ADHD as their main condition being apparently so disabled by ADHD they cant do the above and need extra money to fund their lives doesn't really sound very convincing.

lemonVerbenaMintsorbet · 09/07/2026 11:27

ByMerryBiscuit · 09/07/2026 11:25

Because Adult ADHD has only been rightly considered a condition since 2000 and is the 14th most claimed for main condition for PIP

All those people saying they just process it alphabetically, no I'm taking about on the form it asks what is your main condition and this is how it's recorded.

And PIP is supposed to be to cover additional costs caused by a disability.

And the criteria for PIP are around needing assistance to wash and bathe, eat or prepare food, go to the toilet, walk up to 50m unaided, communicate verbally, understand simple words, signs or symbols, plan journeys and so on.

So the fact there are more than 50k people over the age of 16 listing ADHD as their main condition being apparently so disabled by ADHD they cant do the above and need extra money to fund their lives doesn't really sound very convincing.

It seems highly likely to me. I had prem babies in 2018 , 2020 and 2022 - they needed steroids (I had injections when pregnant) I was told each time theses increased the risk for adhd. Think of how many more prem babies there are now and that survive and most are given these steroids ? There’s some kind of reason so I don’t think it should be written off as false.

emuloc · 09/07/2026 11:28

HPFA · 09/07/2026 11:09

I was puzzling over this one too!

Have a daughter just diagnosed with inflammatory arthritis so has limited mobility at the moment but she still tries to take a walk every day. We don't have a dog but no reason why one couldn't accompany her if we did!

I haven't looked into what we could claim because she's just started the medication which obviously we hope will work! But if nothing improves she's unlikely to be successful in job searches. It's annoying to see this "just get a job" stuff when employers can take their pick of candidates with no health issues. What are people supposed to live on?

I hear you, and there has been a lot of discussion about having a disability, and working, or trying to find a job, that a disabled person can do, that won't make them worse, and will be able to provide any suitable adjustments if needed. Not that many employers are willing to take on a disabled person, and can easily weed them out at the interview stage. It is all such a minefield. Hopefully your Daughter will respond positively to the medication, and be able to find good employment.

Justanopinionnothingmore · 09/07/2026 11:29

XenoBitch · 08/07/2026 22:42

Because when you list your conditions when applying for PIP, ADHD is at the top because it is in alphabetical order.
There have also been articles about people claiming PIP for acne, and anxiety, an autism.

Funny, that.

Edited

Claiming pip for acne??? Is that real?

ToohotToohotToohot · 09/07/2026 11:29

glitterpaperchain · 09/07/2026 11:25

That kind of job doesn't provide good prospects for moving out. You'll be renting a house share that's covered in damp and mould and scraping by.

So who do you think will work in a care home?

You seem to be saying that no one should work for the minimum wage- so that rules out not only care homes but shops, pubs, cafes, TAs, etc.

And why should they rent somewhere damp and mouldy?

ToohotToohotToohot · 09/07/2026 11:30

lemonVerbenaMintsorbet · 09/07/2026 11:27

It seems highly likely to me. I had prem babies in 2018 , 2020 and 2022 - they needed steroids (I had injections when pregnant) I was told each time theses increased the risk for adhd. Think of how many more prem babies there are now and that survive and most are given these steroids ? There’s some kind of reason so I don’t think it should be written off as false.

Steroid injections increase ADHD?

Link?

lemonVerbenaMintsorbet · 09/07/2026 11:31

ToohotToohotToohot · 09/07/2026 11:30

Steroid injections increase ADHD?

Link?

I was told by the consultant each time (3 separate ones)

sorry I don’t have a link to anything but if you search for it you may find something.

Octavia64 · 09/07/2026 11:35

ByMerryBiscuit · 09/07/2026 11:25

Because Adult ADHD has only been rightly considered a condition since 2000 and is the 14th most claimed for main condition for PIP

All those people saying they just process it alphabetically, no I'm taking about on the form it asks what is your main condition and this is how it's recorded.

And PIP is supposed to be to cover additional costs caused by a disability.

And the criteria for PIP are around needing assistance to wash and bathe, eat or prepare food, go to the toilet, walk up to 50m unaided, communicate verbally, understand simple words, signs or symbols, plan journeys and so on.

So the fact there are more than 50k people over the age of 16 listing ADHD as their main condition being apparently so disabled by ADHD they cant do the above and need extra money to fund their lives doesn't really sound very convincing.

On my form (which admittedly was over a year ago) it asked me to list all the conditions I was diagnosed with.

no question about a main condition.

i took photos of the whole form in case it got lost in the post. I’d post the photos but they’re obviously quite identifying.

x2boys · 09/07/2026 11:37

Justanopinionnothingmore · 09/07/2026 11:29

Claiming pip for acne??? Is that real?

The pp was pointing out that when you put in a claim you have to list all your conidtion
So a journslist can legitmatley say that person A gets PIP and has acne we all know that journslists can be economical wuth truth
So whilst person A does claim PIP and does have acne thats not the reason why they are claiming PIP
They also hsve multiple sclerosis for example.

LathkillDale · 09/07/2026 11:37

Itchthescratch · 09/07/2026 11:22

There are lots of jobs in care homes etc that are accessible to young people. They are harder than staying at home and claiming benefits and often pay less. We need people to do these jobs in society and we will need to strongly incentivise people to do them. To some extent this will involve removing the option for people to claim often quite lucrative disability benefits.

I would have thought the recent incident of a man with learning disabilities throwing a child to the crocodiles, while the carers were allegedly on their phones, illustrates why people with complex disabilities need skilled and engaged carers - not people bullied into the job, by having benefits withdrawn!

banmusk · 09/07/2026 11:39

ADHD is a "trait" not an illness well said @MichaelmasDaisiesAndAutumSunset