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How do they know you were driving while on your phone?

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LuckyNumberFive · 03/07/2026 21:00

The title is quite vague but I didn't want to make it a ridiculously long title, but my query is:

Let's say you're in a car crash but haven't sent/made any calls/texts (but were just browsing social media or something on your phone), how do they know? I can absolutely see it's crystal clear if you sent a text at a period where you were driving, but other than that, does your phone record all data use in such detail? So they could see you were browsing Facebook for example, even if you didn't post anything?

I (obviously) don't drive and use my phone, but I do keep my phone in the cup holder or the door pocket and I always wondered in a crash if your phone ends up flying around in the commotion and landing on the passenger seat (for example) within reach, how do they know whether you were using it or not? Is there a way for the phone to exonerate you as such?

Just my Friday night musing, nothing serious.

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Fast800goingforit · 03/07/2026 21:04

When the lorry driver crashed into a parked car outside our house the witness said he didn't brake until it was way too late. If you were observant and trying to avoid a crash, you would move/brake sooner. Also timing if you are travelling from one place to another.

PreparationIsKey · 03/07/2026 21:07

Phones hold all usage data I belive if it was checked properly ie with police they can tell

tourdefrance · 03/07/2026 21:08

I think they can probably look at internet activity. There was an HGV driver on Crash Detectives who had been watching YouTube videos when he drove into the back of a family on the hard shoulder.
The safest place is your glove compartment then its not accessible at all.

LuckyNumberFive · 03/07/2026 21:10

PreparationIsKey · 03/07/2026 21:07

Phones hold all usage data I belive if it was checked properly ie with police they can tell

This is what I was wondering. It's all a bit too techy for me but it was just something on my mind on my drive home tonight.

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MaryBeardsShoes · 03/07/2026 21:10

I’ve seen threads on here where people say they (the police or whoever) have photo evidence. I don’t know if that’s true. I guess you can see who’s driving from speed camera photos (some times).

LuckyNumberFive · 03/07/2026 21:12

tourdefrance · 03/07/2026 21:08

I think they can probably look at internet activity. There was an HGV driver on Crash Detectives who had been watching YouTube videos when he drove into the back of a family on the hard shoulder.
The safest place is your glove compartment then its not accessible at all.

I can understand that. I don't use my phone while driving and so whether it's accessible or not wouldn't matter to me, it was more curiousity about if you were in a crash and your phone ended up flying somewhere (or was in your bag and that got flung about and emptied) would they be able to check to your phone to prove you weren't using it.

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 03/07/2026 21:12

Distance tracking. It'll show the phone was moving at 30mph (or whatever) leading up to the impact when it largely stopped travelling in the direction of the road. Plus showing the angle and movement of it.

And each video/whatever will record interactions/touches.

There's no getting out of it if somebody is prepared to endanger others that way.

Honeyhonayboo · 03/07/2026 21:13

Are you seriously asking this in 2026?

All electronics hold a digital record of everything.

NullaEffugium · 03/07/2026 21:14

Yes. Your ISP will have a record of every site you visited with a time stamp down to the hundredth of a second. This record is already automatically shared with the UK Gov which includes the police investigating a crash with serious injury or death.

The UK Investigatory Powers Act (IPA) grants the government power to collect and store information about everything people do and say online. This includes emails, texts, calls, location data and internet history, and enables the government to hack into phones and computers. The government is allowed to do this whether or not someone is suspected of criminal activity.

peppermintteadrinker · 03/07/2026 21:15

Phones now detect if you've been in a crash and send an alert. Terrible case in our region where a lad crashed and the police were alerted by his phone and didn't find him. They thought it was an error or something. Found him dead days later.

Most people will have browser history and yeah id imagine there's a clear record of what was happening on a phone prior to a crash.

NullaEffugium · 03/07/2026 21:15

Honeyhonayboo · 03/07/2026 21:13

Are you seriously asking this in 2026?

All electronics hold a digital record of everything.

Even if the phone is destroyed, the record still exists.

LuckyNumberFive · 03/07/2026 21:17

Honeyhonayboo · 03/07/2026 21:13

Are you seriously asking this in 2026?

All electronics hold a digital record of everything.

My laptop records key strokes and clicks, but I don't think it's particularly common sense/the same scenario as on a phone where you could be scrolling a news site without actually clicking on anything. Or scrolling the Facebook home page reading status updates without actually interacting.

Hope the view is nice up there on your high horse, though.

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Changeisstillpossible · 03/07/2026 21:20

Listening to podcasts - doesn't that show up as internet usage? But is hands free

LuckyNumberFive · 03/07/2026 21:20

NullaEffugium · 03/07/2026 21:14

Yes. Your ISP will have a record of every site you visited with a time stamp down to the hundredth of a second. This record is already automatically shared with the UK Gov which includes the police investigating a crash with serious injury or death.

The UK Investigatory Powers Act (IPA) grants the government power to collect and store information about everything people do and say online. This includes emails, texts, calls, location data and internet history, and enables the government to hack into phones and computers. The government is allowed to do this whether or not someone is suspected of criminal activity.

Interesting!

So if (obviously hypothetically) I had BBC news homepage open when I started my journey, and was scrolling while driving reading the headlines but not actually clicking on any of the articles, would they know?

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LuckyNumberFive · 03/07/2026 21:21

Changeisstillpossible · 03/07/2026 21:20

Listening to podcasts - doesn't that show up as internet usage? But is hands free

I assume similar to Spotify? My phone connects using Android Auto and so Spotify plays through the car, but I don't need to touch my phone for that. I assume it tracks that it's all hands free internet usage.

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NullaEffugium · 03/07/2026 21:28

LuckyNumberFive · 03/07/2026 21:20

Interesting!

So if (obviously hypothetically) I had BBC news homepage open when I started my journey, and was scrolling while driving reading the headlines but not actually clicking on any of the articles, would they know?

Yes

LuckyNumberFive · 03/07/2026 21:29

NullaEffugium · 03/07/2026 21:28

Yes

And can they differentiate between hands free usage (eg, Spotify or a podcast playing via your phone through the car) and you physically using your phone to pick a song or something?

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Throwntothewolves · 03/07/2026 21:29

I wonder how they prove who was using it.
I don't use my phone when driving, but sometimes my son uses it when travelling with me, usually when he's drained the battery on his own phone.
A person's phone being accessed in a moving car doesn't prove they were using it, unless they were alone or there's other evidence. Nor does it not being stowed away, it isn't illegal to have it loose, but that can cause temptation for some.

NullaEffugium · 03/07/2026 21:31

LuckyNumberFive · 03/07/2026 21:29

And can they differentiate between hands free usage (eg, Spotify or a podcast playing via your phone through the car) and you physically using your phone to pick a song or something?

Yes

LuckyNumberFive · 03/07/2026 21:31

Throwntothewolves · 03/07/2026 21:29

I wonder how they prove who was using it.
I don't use my phone when driving, but sometimes my son uses it when travelling with me, usually when he's drained the battery on his own phone.
A person's phone being accessed in a moving car doesn't prove they were using it, unless they were alone or there's other evidence. Nor does it not being stowed away, it isn't illegal to have it loose, but that can cause temptation for some.

My brother is a fucker for being tempted to check his phone while driving, I refuse to get in the car with him now. But it's an interesting thought, my teen will use my phone to pick the next song, but obviously you never hope to be in a situation having had a crash that it's even a concern.

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Kingdomofsleep · 03/07/2026 21:33

LuckyNumberFive · 03/07/2026 21:17

My laptop records key strokes and clicks, but I don't think it's particularly common sense/the same scenario as on a phone where you could be scrolling a news site without actually clicking on anything. Or scrolling the Facebook home page reading status updates without actually interacting.

Hope the view is nice up there on your high horse, though.

Everything you scroll records that you've "seen" it, hence the "seen by" stats you can pay for if you've got a business on social media.

I have a close relative who works in ad-tech. Did you know, Netflix even records which shows you linger your cursor over but don't click on. They then record this in a sort of category of "they were tempted but didn't watch it".

LuckyNumberFive · 03/07/2026 21:34

Kingdomofsleep · 03/07/2026 21:33

Everything you scroll records that you've "seen" it, hence the "seen by" stats you can pay for if you've got a business on social media.

I have a close relative who works in ad-tech. Did you know, Netflix even records which shows you linger your cursor over but don't click on. They then record this in a sort of category of "they were tempted but didn't watch it".

That last sentence is exactly why I don't like people using my Netflix profile, ruining my algorithm 😂

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Kingdomofsleep · 03/07/2026 21:35

So basically yes. Everything, everything that shows up on your screen has been recorded as being seen, at that millisecond, on your device.

Moral: don't crash your car while you're on your phone. Don't Google "best poisons for killing my husband" and then poison your husband. Don't use Maps to navigate to the place you dump the body. I could go on.

NullaEffugium · 03/07/2026 21:36

Throwntothewolves · 03/07/2026 21:29

I wonder how they prove who was using it.
I don't use my phone when driving, but sometimes my son uses it when travelling with me, usually when he's drained the battery on his own phone.
A person's phone being accessed in a moving car doesn't prove they were using it, unless they were alone or there's other evidence. Nor does it not being stowed away, it isn't illegal to have it loose, but that can cause temptation for some.

They need information from witnesses in the car to determine that, although some cars will sense it if the driver’s phone is being used while driving if it is paired to the phone via Bluetooth.

LuckyNumberFive · 03/07/2026 21:36

Kingdomofsleep · 03/07/2026 21:35

So basically yes. Everything, everything that shows up on your screen has been recorded as being seen, at that millisecond, on your device.

Moral: don't crash your car while you're on your phone. Don't Google "best poisons for killing my husband" and then poison your husband. Don't use Maps to navigate to the place you dump the body. I could go on.

Second moral: don't use your phone while you're driving in the first place.

The last couple feel much more like common sense (especially search history).

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