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Crows are literally ruining my life right now (badly need some advice and much-needed perspective).

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bobbythejobby · 02/07/2026 21:02

Could desperately use some advice/perspective on this situation.

I live on a housing estate that has lots of woods close-by. Consequently we’ve always had lots of birds around the area – pigeons, magpies, blackbirds, robins, crows. All the birds was one of the things I used to like about my house because I’m a bird person (which is partly why this problem becoming such a huge deal has been a shock for me).

Problems started approx. January. I noticed a crow sitting on my neighbour's fence a few doors down and cawing very loudly and repeatedly at their front window. This went on for a few days and then everything was quiet again for a few months.March I heard a crow making this same constant, loud cawing at the windows of a nursery building right across from my house, actually sitting on the windowsills and cawing directly at the windows.This went on on and off for several weeks. At the same time seagulls started nesting on top of this nursery building (they’re still there now with a few cute little fluffy baby seagulls) and I noticed that two crows would be constantly winding up the seagulls, dive-bombing them in between one of them cawing at the windows. At this point the crows weren’t a problem for us, it was just something I’d noticed because of the noise.

Then one morning right at the beginning of May a crow had been cawing at the windows of the nursery again all morning. I closed the blinds of my upstairs bedroom where I was working on my laptop at the desk and next thing I know this crow is at my window, sitting on the sill, cawing at the windows and tapping on them. That first day it only happened that once but the next day it appeared at 5am, woke me up with this fucking infernal cawing I’ve never heard the likes of and it continued at regular intervals throughout the day right up until 945 at night.

Cue two and a half weeks of what I can only describe as absolute, literal torture. Getting woken up every morning between 430am and 530am with it cawing at every upstairs window in the house and this then continuing throughout the day until 10pm at night. It got to the point where everytime I went into an upstairs room it would be on the windowsill, sometimes cawing and tapping and sometimes just sitting on the sill, it would see me and fly off only to return. It was fucking dreadful and after two and a half weeks I could barely function I was so sleep-deprived and so sick and anxious of the noise. So I got bird spikes and put them on the upstairs windows. This solved the problem though seemed to tick off the crow for a few days, he’d appear on the back fence and caw a few times and then fly off usually in the evenings.It stayed away from our house but I would often hear it in the area, all over the place, near and far, making that awful screeching cawing sound for hours on end. But as it stayed away from the house I thought problem-solved.

A couple of weeks after putting up the bird spikes, so maybe three weeks ago now, I went out to weed my back garden. While I was out there I heard several crows all cawing and making a racket fairly close but not near my house and I couldn't see them. After going back into the house a crow then appeared on my livingroom windowsill (so downstairs windows where there are no bird spikes on the sills because it had never been at these windows until then) and started cawing at the window. It only done this once and disappeared.

Since then, whenever I open my upstairs bedroom window (the window it first appeared to caw and tap at) I hear it cawing close-ish, maybe once or twice. Worse than that when I leave the house I sometimes (it’s only sometimes) hear what sounds like very young crows cawing on my roof and then the parent either lands on a nearby roof and starts cawing or I’ll hear a crow caw in the distance as if replying. It feels like it’s being directed at only me because I don’t hear it when my neighbours leave their houses. A couple of times when I’ve left the house to walk into town I’ve heard that same loud, angry cawing when I’ve gotten about five minutes’ walk away and been convinced I’m being followed by this crow. Sometimes when I go into rooms in my house I’ll hear this sudden loud cawing as if it’s actually watching my house.

I don’t think there’s any crow nests on my roof for context. I do think this crow has been hanging around in the street on and off for a while as a lot of my neighbours have overflowing bins. I do often see it at several neighbour’s bins.

I never physically chased this crow away from my windows when it was sitting on the sills cawing but it’s obviously seen my face because I couldn't possibly avoid it when it was always on the bloody windowsills of every room I went into.

I feel like the tipping point was when I weeded the garden that day but I don’t get why me weeding my garden was seen as being threatening?

I’m aware how totally stupid this sounds and that I’m probably blowing this out of proportion but it’s been two solid months now since this started and I literally think about this every moment of the day. As utterly ridiculous and over-dramatic as this sounds, all the joy has literally been sucked out of my life since this started. I’m constantly feeling my heart thumping thinking about how my house is ruined because all I read online about crows is that they have long memories and hold grudges for long periods.

I don’t think I’m normally someone who blows a problem out of proportion and I don’t think I’m prone to catastrophising but this is literally dominating my thoughts almost every moment of the day and I’m even having dreams about it at night. I’m thinking now about asking my GP for anti-anxiety medication for the first time in my life. I don’t want to talk to anyone in real life about this because I’m embarrassed about what a big deal this has become for me and how anxious it’s making me.

I spent years bouncing around in insecure accommodation, thinking I’d never have a house I could call my own, and now I do but it’s been ruined and I’ll never be able to leave the house without being anxious about being cawed at and people noticing I’m being harassed by crows, I’ll never be able to take rubbish out to the bin without being cawed at, can’t ever step foot in my back garden again, will have to listen to that angry caw when I go into a room in my house and it sees me through the windows.

Can anyone who’s knowledgeable about crows give me some advice and perspective on this because it’s gotten to be too big a deal in my head and I’ve lost all perspective.

I know it might be suggested I leave food out for this crow but I'm not keen to do this as it obviously knows my house and I don't want to give it a reason to keep hanging around.

Am I blowing this out of proportion?? Is this crow ever going to forget about me and my house? And most importantly, will this ever stop or has my much-longed-for home been ruined for good for me?

God, this post got way longer than I planned when I started it - sorry for the mega-long read.

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Dreamyposter · 02/07/2026 21:07

I don't think you're blowing this out of proportion in the sense that weeks of being woken up at 5am by a crow would wear anyone down. What started as a real nuisance seems to have understandably turned into something that's making you anxious all the time.

From what you've described though, I don't think the evidence points to this crow having a personal grudge against you. You mentioned it was previously cawing at your neighbour's house, then the nursery, and harassing the seagulls there. That suggests it's a bird that's been active around the whole area rather than being fixated on you specifically.

The biggest clue is that the bird spikes worked. If the crow was truly obsessed with you, it probably wouldn't have stopped just because it couldn't perch on your upstairs windows. It sounds more like it was interested in those windows as a perch or lookout than in you personally.

It's also worth remembering that May and June are nesting season, when crows become much louder and more defensive, especially if there are young birds around. The weeding incident may simply have happened at the same time as they had fledglings nearby, rather than you doing anything to upset them.

The part of your post that stood out to me most wasn't actually the crow, it was how much space this is taking up in your mind. Thinking about it constantly, avoiding your garden, worrying every time you leave the house, and even dreaming about it sounds like the anxiety has become a bigger problem than the bird itself.

I don't think your home is ruined or that this will last forever. Crow behaviour usually settles down once the breeding season ends, and your own experience suggests things have already improved compared with the first few weeks. If the anxiety is still dominating your life, I'd genuinely consider speaking to your GP, not because you're overreacting, but because you deserve some help with how much distress this has caused.

Persephonia1966 · 02/07/2026 21:09

It might not be a grudge. It might be that they have young nearby so are being overprotective? It sounds like it (the cawing at your window specifically) started in spring. If it is that it might naturally come to an end when the babies are bigger, but I totally get that that is scant comfort now.

You said they started of cawing at different buildings to yours. Are they still doing that or have they moved on to yours? If the second it might be that, for some weird reason, they are working their way from house to house...

WonderingWanda · 02/07/2026 21:09

Is it a new build estate? Is it possible the crows are pissed off that some of their trees were cut down and now they are directing their anger at you? I've heard that crows can hold grudges. No idea how you fix it. I suppose plant some trees and leave some gifts (food) for the crows can't hurt.

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Pickledonion1999 · 02/07/2026 21:11

Birds are making my life a misery too op ! Crows being noisy early in the morning and baby birds constantly on our lawn unable to fly. I have not been able to let the dog out all week . Tonight he has killed one so we feel bad but they are just there stranded all the time.

WonderingWanda · 02/07/2026 21:12

Google suggests that crows are highly territorial but might like treats such as nuts or boiled eggs.

Persephonia1966 · 02/07/2026 21:16

WonderingWanda · 02/07/2026 21:09

Is it a new build estate? Is it possible the crows are pissed off that some of their trees were cut down and now they are directing their anger at you? I've heard that crows can hold grudges. No idea how you fix it. I suppose plant some trees and leave some gifts (food) for the crows can't hurt.

I know someone who fed crows cheese and the crows would stand outside her window and caw at her to feed them. She didn't mind so much (it's the same thing cats do and we tolerate them) but I think if the OP had this happen it would not help. Especially if they then brought their friends. From the crow perspective it would be "this lovely human gives us food. Let's stand outside her window at 4 am and serenade her as the sun rises" but from the OPs perspective it would be "CAW CAW CAW".

If the crows are only cawing and not dive-bombing the OP (not necessarily making contact but acting like they might) then it likely isn't a huge grudge they have. It's more likely generalised dickish behaviour.

Chocolateteabag · 02/07/2026 21:19

i hate crows - they attack songbird nests and eat their eggs/ baby birds. I live rurally and around here they are shot under the general license

if that isn’t possible - go on the attack - play crow repelling sounds (plenty on YouTube)
whirl a rattle at them in the morning.
go out with a water squirter or hose and “shoot them”, or use an umbrella and wave it at them
Make them feel as unwelcome as you can! If any thing it will help with your anxiety in a physical way

DO NOT feed them!

bobbythejobby · 02/07/2026 21:43

@Dreamyposter - thank you, your post actually really helped both about the crow specifically and about my anxiety. It kind of confirmed what I've been thinking about how it's become so blown out of proportion in my head. I'm genuinely shocked what a big deal it's become and how it's all I can think about. If the anxiety about it doesn't go soon (and I don't think it will tbh) then I'll definitely be speaking to my GP.

@Persephonia1966 it's completely stopped cawing at my other neighbours and the nursery. I don't know if it would still be doing it at mine if I hadn't put up the bird spikes. The reason you gave for not feeding the crows is exactly why I don't want to feed them - I used to like crows believe it or not but after this I don't think I would want them regularly coming to my house. I've never been dive-bombed (thankfully but I've worried about it a lot and I think about it everytime I leave the house). This crow never actually comes near me. It's just cawing close but not so close that I can see it. It doesn't even happen everytime I leave the house either, it's unpredictable. It's just shit that sometimes when this crows sees me either inside or outside my house that it starts cawing and I don't know what it is about me that's triggering it to do that. It's definitely not happening to my neighbours because I live in a busy street. It makes it difficult not to think it's got a grudge because it's definitely recognising me. It makes me angry actually too because it feels like all my neighbours get to come and go freely in peace and use their front and back gardens but I can't without being cawed at. Would they definitely be dive-bombing if they thought I was a genuine threat?

@WonderingWanda - not a newbuild estate. These houses have been here since 1978 (sometime around then anyway). I thought us and the all the birds around here kind of ticked along and tolerated each other until all this started.

@Pickledonion1999 Hope your bird problem sorts itself soon! I suppose at least I don't have baby birds stumbling around in my back garden. I think that might be too much for me after the last few weeks lol.

@Chocolateteabag You know I never ever thought I'd want a bird to be shot because I do like birds, I love pigeons, I like seagulls, the birds people normally aren't fond of or that are seen as 'pest' birds - but right now if some pest control person with a gun turned up to take out that crow all I'd feel is relief. I have a feeling, being that I'm in a fairly urban area, smallish town but pretty built up, that that's not going to be an option.

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MaybeThisTimeILlbeLucky · 02/07/2026 21:47

Op this is extremely common there was was a mind bowling phone in once I happened to listen to about this sort of thing.

There are defiantly stragegies you can use !

WatermelonSalad1 · 02/07/2026 21:53

@MaybeThisTimeILlbeLucky so are you gonna keep them secret?!

bobbythejobby · 02/07/2026 21:54

@MaybeThisTimeILlbeLucky I've been doing (too much) Googling about this since it started but it's actually made me feel worse. I read an old thread on here a few weeks back about a woman and her dog being harassed by crows (I think it was called 'to think i'm still marked by the crows') and it seemed like a whole year went by before she went back to the same spot and it happened again if I remember right (though she was getting divebombed by the crows and it was more than one which hasn't happened to me yet). Someone in the comments said about how their grandad had been harassed by crows and he moved house and they followed him (or let the local crows know about him or something). I've read some horror stories on Reddit too. The more I read the more I think this problem is going to be permanent because, especially on Reddit, people say things like how you'll be marked for life and they'll pass the grudge down to their babies. Now this crow (and it's babies it seems) knows my face, reading those kind of posts just makes me feel worse.

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PinkCatCushion · 02/07/2026 21:56

I also dislike crows, mainly because of the loud early morning cawing. I love songbirds though and, like you OP, I worry that the crows will displace the lovely garden songbirds.
If I see any crows coming into my garden i go outside and clap my hands, they soon fly off.
They probably do have a grudge against me but I don’t care as my grudge against them is stronger. If they are as bright as people say, they should soon learn to stay out of my garden or I’ll come out and clap at them.
As they’re already waking you in the early hours, can you open your window and shoo them off?

I quite like the idea of a water pistol though. Satisfying.

Popfan · 02/07/2026 21:59

Can the crow see its reflection in the window when you put the blinds down? When we moved into our house (years ago) we didn't have any blinds or curtains. I remember we taped bin bags to the windows as a temporary measure. We had a crow tapping and cawing at the window as it could see it's reflection and I imagine thought it was another crow. As soon as we got our blinds (white slatted wooden ones so not reflective) the crow went away and that was the end of it.
Maybe there's also a reflection it can see in the nursery window too?

Brokedownpalace · 02/07/2026 21:59

Oh this would drive me insane, you are most definitely not blowing this out of proportion. I once threw a tennis ball at a tree at 5 in the morning as this bloody crow would not shut up. I hope you get it sorted soon. And don't watch the Stanley Cubrik film The Birds as you will definitely go crazy then!

bobbythejobby · 02/07/2026 22:00

@PinkCatCushion I quite liked the water pistol idea too. In my head at least. But I think it might just rile this crow up even more. Because it's not cawing at my windows anymore (because I put up bird spikes to stop it) I now can't see where it is when the cawing starts. I just hear it. Believe it or not I used to quite like crows, not as much as I love pigeons and other garden birds, but I thought they were quite fascinating to watch. I wouldn't say I hate them now but I don't particularly like them at the moment. Do they still show up in your garden often even though you scare them off by clapping?

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PinkCatCushion · 02/07/2026 22:00

bobbythejobby · 02/07/2026 21:54

@MaybeThisTimeILlbeLucky I've been doing (too much) Googling about this since it started but it's actually made me feel worse. I read an old thread on here a few weeks back about a woman and her dog being harassed by crows (I think it was called 'to think i'm still marked by the crows') and it seemed like a whole year went by before she went back to the same spot and it happened again if I remember right (though she was getting divebombed by the crows and it was more than one which hasn't happened to me yet). Someone in the comments said about how their grandad had been harassed by crows and he moved house and they followed him (or let the local crows know about him or something). I've read some horror stories on Reddit too. The more I read the more I think this problem is going to be permanent because, especially on Reddit, people say things like how you'll be marked for life and they'll pass the grudge down to their babies. Now this crow (and it's babies it seems) knows my face, reading those kind of posts just makes me feel worse.

Ha. They could try following me and I’ll clap at them even more. A bird will never win against me. I’ll run at them, clapping - that would terrify most people, I’m a substantial woman.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 02/07/2026 22:02

Did you not accidentally turn your windows into mirrors? They are looking at a foreign crow and trying to sort him.

I have had a lot of noise from jackdaws the last couple of days. I noticed yesterday that jackdaw fledgelings are being fed on my chimney. They are as big as the parents, but sit their looking gormless quacking amd waiting for a parent to turn up with some dinner.

likelysuspect · 02/07/2026 22:02

Imagine if birds/crows had a forum, they would be complaining about washing machine noise, lawn mowers, hoovers, traffic, kids playing, music blaring, humans talking, laughing and shouting.

We make our own noise plenty enough

Ive noticed the last week or so that there are some very very noisy crows in the trees, I noticed it because its unusual. Perhaps its the heat or time of year, very loud cawing/croaking whatever the word is.

Its part and parcel of the world.

Its always noisy here with birds, seagulls, wood pigeons (they're the worse, so repetitive, they never have anything different to say), squawking of starlings, parakeets screeching and crows/magpies.

bobbythejobby · 02/07/2026 22:03

@Popfan I was sure it was a reflection thing making it caw at our windows and the nursery. I still think that could have been what started it though we have blinds, venetian blinds, and they're never fully open so who knows. At the beginning when things were really bad, I'd hear it tearing around all over the place down my way doing that constant cawing.

@Brokedownpalace I'm off to Poundland tomorrow to get some tennis balls 😂nah not really though I might have at the beginning when it was constant.

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Persephonia1966 · 02/07/2026 22:08

Would they definitely be dive-bombing if they thought I was a genuine threat

im not a crow psychologist but in my experience if it thought you were a threat to its babies then absolutely yes! My son when he was younger and in an after-school club got attacked by crows because there was an "injured baby bird" by the climbing frame and they went to help it and the crow parents went nuts. My son and his friends weren't hurt, but they were very upset by it (they were young children and liked animals so were upset that the birds were angry at them and worried about the one that couldn't fly. Also it was quite scary). In reality I think the "injured baby bird" was a fledgling anyway and the parents were just being overprotective. However, the birds did not continue to "bear a grudge" against my son or his friend. And presumably left the playground with their baby and all was well. There are still crows in the area but it seems my son was not put on a watch list.

If the cawing is only sometimes it's more likely it's because their baby is near to where you are. So it's more of a "keep away from my baby, I've got my eye on you" warning than targeted hostility.

I know people love to make a big thing about "crow grudges". It's a really fascinating thing to speculate about. And I'm not saying it isn't real. But that doesn't mean every act of crow is because they hold a grudge. They have babies, they might also just be hot and pissed of that particular day. I get grumpy in the heat In sure birds do too. Crows have the mental abilities of three year olds (and TBF better eyesight than humans). Which is impressive. But it's not a mystical intellect. Or an ability to divine someone's true intentions/character so no-one else is going to be judging you because a crow cawed at you. Especially because this crow has been making a twat of itself for a while.

Don't take it personally would be my advice.

PinkCatCushion · 02/07/2026 22:08

bobbythejobby · 02/07/2026 22:00

@PinkCatCushion I quite liked the water pistol idea too. In my head at least. But I think it might just rile this crow up even more. Because it's not cawing at my windows anymore (because I put up bird spikes to stop it) I now can't see where it is when the cawing starts. I just hear it. Believe it or not I used to quite like crows, not as much as I love pigeons and other garden birds, but I thought they were quite fascinating to watch. I wouldn't say I hate them now but I don't particularly like them at the moment. Do they still show up in your garden often even though you scare them off by clapping?

No, they are definitely less keen on my garden. Why would they bother to go somewhere they get chased away from when there are other places they can hang out?
They probably came to yours originally because they found food or something; if there is nothing there to eat or drink they’ll soon move on, especially if they are chased off regularly.

They are still only birds, they aren’t actually that clever. They are just after something to eat.

bobbythejobby · 02/07/2026 22:10

Thanks for all the replies, they helped me put this into perspective a bit and not go down the catastrophising doom spiral that I'm marked forever that i've been doing often at nights lately. I'm off to bed now, i've been up since six this morning (not because a crow woke me but because I was dreading going out and getting cawed at - fucking stupid I know) but I'll come back tomorrow to answer any replies I've missed.

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Thawtfulpanda · 02/07/2026 22:10

Dreamyposter · 02/07/2026 21:07

I don't think you're blowing this out of proportion in the sense that weeks of being woken up at 5am by a crow would wear anyone down. What started as a real nuisance seems to have understandably turned into something that's making you anxious all the time.

From what you've described though, I don't think the evidence points to this crow having a personal grudge against you. You mentioned it was previously cawing at your neighbour's house, then the nursery, and harassing the seagulls there. That suggests it's a bird that's been active around the whole area rather than being fixated on you specifically.

The biggest clue is that the bird spikes worked. If the crow was truly obsessed with you, it probably wouldn't have stopped just because it couldn't perch on your upstairs windows. It sounds more like it was interested in those windows as a perch or lookout than in you personally.

It's also worth remembering that May and June are nesting season, when crows become much louder and more defensive, especially if there are young birds around. The weeding incident may simply have happened at the same time as they had fledglings nearby, rather than you doing anything to upset them.

The part of your post that stood out to me most wasn't actually the crow, it was how much space this is taking up in your mind. Thinking about it constantly, avoiding your garden, worrying every time you leave the house, and even dreaming about it sounds like the anxiety has become a bigger problem than the bird itself.

I don't think your home is ruined or that this will last forever. Crow behaviour usually settles down once the breeding season ends, and your own experience suggests things have already improved compared with the first few weeks. If the anxiety is still dominating your life, I'd genuinely consider speaking to your GP, not because you're overreacting, but because you deserve some help with how much distress this has caused.

This reads like AI

Dollymylove · 02/07/2026 22:23

Invest in a couple of cats 🐈 😻

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