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Lomonald · 01/07/2026 11:45

RoseOliviaAu · 01/07/2026 10:57

The paper described the lady’s ‘passing’ and Kirstie wants them to say she died instead because she’s ’not a car’.

Kirstie allsopp is an arsehole! Honestly she really has no self awareness, Penelope Keith died on Monday, theatrical organisations used flowery language to describe her death, and Kirsty has to make it a huge deal.and about her own feelings.

UniquePinkSwan · 01/07/2026 11:48

blacksax · 01/07/2026 11:00

Why is the Despicable Rag giving this airhead any airtime at all? Nobody gives a shiny shit what she thinks.

Obviously some people care or they wouldn’t do the article.

blacksax · 01/07/2026 11:52

As far as I am aware, some faiths use the term 'passed' because it means they have passed over to the other side, which is what they believe. I don't like it myself, but that is neither here nor there.

But when you are writing an obituary, it seems to me that the term 'died' can be used, but not constantly through the entire article. For instance 'With her passing, we see the end of an era' is fine. Especially if everyone reading it knows exactly what it means.

However, that is beside the point really. This woman has used the death of a much-loved national treasure for egotistical self-promotion, which is pretty low.

Stelladid · 01/07/2026 11:59

I find KA a bit obnoxious, but on this, I agree with her. Unless someone is religious, where do they think a person has passed to? We die, we don’t pass.

Stirabout · 01/07/2026 12:07

Stelladid · 01/07/2026 11:59

I find KA a bit obnoxious, but on this, I agree with her. Unless someone is religious, where do they think a person has passed to? We die, we don’t pass.

It’s only Religious if people believe that there is some sort of afterlife
Passed on ie to another life

‘Passed away’ or ‘passed’ has always meant to die or to no longer exist

Stelladid · 01/07/2026 12:12

Stirabout · 01/07/2026 12:07

It’s only Religious if people believe that there is some sort of afterlife
Passed on ie to another life

‘Passed away’ or ‘passed’ has always meant to die or to no longer exist

but where have they passed to? I know it is used like that, but I’m not sure why you think it always meant that. It’s only in relatively recent times that it has been used to mean died. I assume it’s been adopted like this because people are uncomfortable with death. It doesn’t change what it is though!

BlusteryLake · 01/07/2026 12:13

That woman has a habit of inserting herself where she's not needed. She's best ignored.

Stirabout · 01/07/2026 12:17

Stelladid · 01/07/2026 12:12

but where have they passed to? I know it is used like that, but I’m not sure why you think it always meant that. It’s only in relatively recent times that it has been used to mean died. I assume it’s been adopted like this because people are uncomfortable with death. It doesn’t change what it is though!

Passed doesn’t mean they’ve gone anywhere
it means they no longer exist

Passed out for example doesn’t mean Theyve gone anywhere

It’s not recent either unless you mean in terms of the whole of human existence. The term has been around since at least the 14th century

TheignT · 01/07/2026 12:20

Oliveoy · 01/07/2026 10:46

I don't disagree with her. We shouldn't be afraid to name death for what it is, and euphemisms can seem twee.

That being said, it's very normal parlance, and she should have kept it as an inside thought really.

It is irritating though. What have they passed? Wind, a kidney stone. Or maybe passing as white. She died, she is dead, perfect words that tell everyone what they mean. It is sad and she was brilliant. I hope her family are ok and coping with her death.

dopaminego · 01/07/2026 12:56

Additup · 01/07/2026 11:37

Tbf, she has got a point.

At least the DM didn't blare out 'Penelope Keith, dead at 81' which I always find a really horrible way to report on someone's death.

That 'dead at' thing is really horrible. Also, surely it only works if someone dies at a relatively young age? Not 'dead at 90' as if that's a surprise someone would die at that age?

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Blueberrybonanza · 01/07/2026 15:01

dopaminego · 01/07/2026 12:56

That 'dead at' thing is really horrible. Also, surely it only works if someone dies at a relatively young age? Not 'dead at 90' as if that's a surprise someone would die at that age?

Why is it? Its a fact, we all die eventually, we will all be dead. Passing, over, passing on is a nonsense, we dont pass anywhere. If a pet dies do we say it passes over? No, it is no longer a living thing therefore dead

HolidayHideaway · 02/07/2026 07:08

It’s seen as common/lower middle class by some. (Her).

KA’s point apparently was PK’s family used word ‘died’.

Yodellayhehoo · 02/07/2026 07:12

blacksax · 01/07/2026 10:54

What does the daft bint say? I'm not one for reading anything produced by that despicable rag, so can anyone precis please?

Funny enough, in arabic BINT Means daughter

Goinggonegone · 02/07/2026 07:18

I agree with her.

Ninetysixdegreesintheshade · 02/07/2026 07:24

I think she's a twat. I also think people who have lost loved ones can say what the fuck they like. Passed on, lost,died,passed away. It's their loss and their grief to deal with how ever they want.

BunnyLake · 02/07/2026 07:36

Personally I can’t see anything wrong with saying passed away. Not something I could get het up about.

BathersOnTheLine · 02/07/2026 08:01

WaterBubblesWonkyFruit · 01/07/2026 10:52

I completely agree with her, although she might have done better just to post her thoughts on the language rather than connecting it to a particular death.

I agree.

RoseOliviaAu · 02/07/2026 08:01

Blueberrybonanza · 01/07/2026 11:11

Im with Kirsty its died, not passed away, passed on, lost etc.
I'm a nurse so for me the worst one though is ‘passed’ passed what, water? Urine, out?

Passed through the veil to the unknown… surely that’s obvious. They have passed on.. they’re not here because they’ve moved on.

I don’t see the issue

Cocolist · 02/07/2026 08:13

A regular acquaintance beckoned to my husband and I in a busy car park and said that she had lost her husband. “Don’t worry. “ We said. “We will help you find him.” She then had to explain that her husband was dead, not “lost”.

Blueberrybonanza · 02/07/2026 08:17

RoseOliviaAu · 02/07/2026 08:01

Passed through the veil to the unknown… surely that’s obvious. They have passed on.. they’re not here because they’ve moved on.

I don’t see the issue

If one of my nurses came to tell me someone had passed through the veil to the unknown I would ask if they were feeling alright although I might also query if someone had gone in the store cupboard
No it is not obvious

TooOrangey · 02/07/2026 08:18

The Daily Mail wankers have made an entire stupid article about a small comment she made on X.

But I’m with her as I hate the mimsy use of ‘passed’ and ‘passed away’. People DIE. They don’t pass anywhere and it shouldn’t be seen as ‘softer’ to use ridiculous euphemisms.

TooOrangey · 02/07/2026 08:21

Passed through the veil to the unknown

😂😂 the what now?

Lomonald · 02/07/2026 08:30

Blueberrybonanza · 02/07/2026 08:17

If one of my nurses came to tell me someone had passed through the veil to the unknown I would ask if they were feeling alright although I might also query if someone had gone in the store cupboard
No it is not obvious

Well nurses are not going to be saying it are they? It isn't a literal term .I actually agree just say dead or died
, but Kirstie allsopp venting her "rage" .about a tribute 2 days after Penelope Keith died is making it all about Kirstie and nothing about Baftas tribute or Penelope Keith's family and friends feelings, just Kirsties instant thoughts that she.felt she needed to share, that the rag picked up that gave Kirstie the attention she needed. There is a time to just shush and imo 2 days after someone dies is that time.

Tonissister · 02/07/2026 08:33

I quite like the term 'passing'. It implies moving from thislife to something beyond, which most cultures have some notion of, and could well be true.

HolidayHideaway · 02/07/2026 08:34

Lomonald · 02/07/2026 08:30

Well nurses are not going to be saying it are they? It isn't a literal term .I actually agree just say dead or died
, but Kirstie allsopp venting her "rage" .about a tribute 2 days after Penelope Keith died is making it all about Kirstie and nothing about Baftas tribute or Penelope Keith's family and friends feelings, just Kirsties instant thoughts that she.felt she needed to share, that the rag picked up that gave Kirstie the attention she needed. There is a time to just shush and imo 2 days after someone dies is that time.

Apparently her family used term ‘died’ which the media changed - hence the KA annoyance.

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