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30 years ago today

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x2boys · 15/06/2026 18:12

30 years ago today
The IRA bombed manchester city centre
It was a miracle there were no fatalities the much of the city cente was destroyed though

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PerkingFaintly · 17/06/2026 21:11

hairbearbunches · 17/06/2026 11:41

Mentioning 9/11 reminds me that were it not for sympathetic fellow travellers in the US shovelling money into Noraid, the IRA would have had far fewer funds with which to operate. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Yep, Noraid providing the cash. IIRC the Armalites used to come from Libya?

Plenty of interference by foreign countries to keep NI on the boil.

Mykneeshurt · 17/06/2026 21:17

PerkingFaintly · 17/06/2026 21:11

Yep, Noraid providing the cash. IIRC the Armalites used to come from Libya?

Plenty of interference by foreign countries to keep NI on the boil.

Same old story. People supporting organisations they know nothing about.

Mykneeshurt · 17/06/2026 21:19

Lots of people got very rich on the back of the "troubles".

Honeyhonay · 17/06/2026 21:19

It’s even crazier now we know how high up some of the British government agents were within the IRA.

For anyone not from NI, one of the most high ranking members of the IRA, responsible hunting down and dishing out punishments of suspected informants, often executions, was an informant, working directly for the British government for decades.

Many of the informants planned executions, bombs and other atrocities, with the knowledge of the British government.

Mykneeshurt · 17/06/2026 21:20

PerkingFaintly · 17/06/2026 21:06

Friend went to visit someone in "the other community". Came out to bullet holes though his car door.

Wrong sort of car or wrong sort of number plate (within NI) or just new car on the street.

At least he wasn't in the car. I knew someone who wasn't so lucky.

PerkingFaintly · 17/06/2026 21:21

Oh god. I'm so sorry.

Honeyhonay · 17/06/2026 21:21

Mykneeshurt · 17/06/2026 15:05

The UDR and UVF ran extortion and protection rackets all over NI. They specialised in kidnap, torture and murder, but much of it was not reported, and certainly not in England. There were "no go" areas, especially in Belfast. Heaven help you if you accidently drove into the wrong area and your car had an Irish number plate. Different bus companies for different routes depending on protection payments. Looking back it seems surreal.

Lots of protection money still collected today in Belfast, definitely not a thing of the past!

x2boys · 17/06/2026 21:35

Honeyhonay · 17/06/2026 21:19

It’s even crazier now we know how high up some of the British government agents were within the IRA.

For anyone not from NI, one of the most high ranking members of the IRA, responsible hunting down and dishing out punishments of suspected informants, often executions, was an informant, working directly for the British government for decades.

Many of the informants planned executions, bombs and other atrocities, with the knowledge of the British government.

This doesnt surprise me.

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x2boys · 17/06/2026 21:38

Honeyhonay · 17/06/2026 21:21

Lots of protection money still collected today in Belfast, definitely not a thing of the past!

Do you think it may escalate again?
In terms of warfare with AI and Drones etc it would be very different from the previous " Troubles" .

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Honeyhonay · 17/06/2026 21:56

x2boys · 17/06/2026 21:38

Do you think it may escalate again?
In terms of warfare with AI and Drones etc it would be very different from the previous " Troubles" .

It always escalates, trouble has flared up and down over the last 2.5 decades since the peace process.
There will never be a return to what came before, for many reasons. Not least because, regardless of how you view some of their methods the PIRA came about through the sheer inequality faced for catholics in the north. The sheer systematic discrimination is hard for anyone on GB to understand given the time period it occurred. Support was high because there was a genuine need for change, and a large part of the population that truly had little left to lose.

The money that came in to fund the IRA from outside meant it was actually an incredibly well oiled machine compared to the loyalist paramilitaries.

While no united Ireland, many of the IRA’s goals have been achieved in a way. NI is not entirely under British rule, equal rights have been realised for catholics in terms of jobs, housing and the vote.

What would the goals be from a new conflict?
Who would the divide be between?

The people in NI lived through a genuine warfare, blockades in the street, armed patrols through the streets, death and destruction through bombings, tit for tat shootings, being burned from their homes, crippling poverty, punishment shootings, paramilitary control all being a daily occurrence, and at the same time they lived normal lives along side it going to school, getting married, family life, going to work.

There’s no genuine appetite in NI for a return to anything like the violence we have already endured.

MsGreying · 17/06/2026 22:10

It was the first time I'd seen police with guns at the end of my street.

Honeyhonay · 17/06/2026 22:15

MsGreying · 17/06/2026 22:10

It was the first time I'd seen police with guns at the end of my street.

On the reverse, the first time I seen police in England I thought they were traffic wardens or on their way to work as an actor 😂

TheMaidofOrleans · 17/06/2026 22:45

Wow really 30 years today. I was a nurse living in a house with 5 other girls in Levenshulme and was on a late shift in Manchester Infirmary so was in bed when the bomb went off in the morning. We all got so many phone calls from family & friends, checking we were all ok.
i remember the damage on the city and the Shoe Hill area was destroyed.
Gosh having a real trip down memory lane thinking about it now.

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