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It begins! Calls for NHS lanyards to be removed because of the Nowak killing

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SocialistMammy · 04/06/2026 13:04

I suppose this knee-jerk over-the-top reaction was inevitable.

There are calls today - including from Kemi Badenoch - for public sector staff, including the NHS! to stop wearing "political" lanyards.

These could be just showing that you're a decent person who opposes genocide, or that your patient is safe with you regardless of your sexuality or gender identity when they are being treated.

And this is all because .. of the murder of Henry Nowak.

So, despite the calls from Nowak's family not to politicise their poor boy's death - that's EXACTLY what the far right are now trying to do. And the NHS has NOTHING to do with that police officer.

Where this is heading looks very ugly - we've got a World Cup starting shortly, and that's going to mean England flags being used to attack minorities. Will footballers have to make statements about diversity being anti white? Probably - it feels like the far right think this is their time now and ANYTHING is up for grabs.

It will be lanyards today, deportations tomorrow. Mark my words.

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BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 14:35

The NHS supplies branded lanyards, those are the ones that should be worn. When I worked for the NHS I carried my ID in my pocket.

KeepPumping · 04/06/2026 14:36

PropertyD · 04/06/2026 14:19

Quite honestly I dont know how we have got this so wrong. What if someone wants to support Farage and Reform? What if they are pro termination or the opposite?? Are they allowed to show those views or is it only certain views?

I really really dont care what their views are especially when they are in uniform.

I am not Jewish but if I saw a surgeon just about to do some surgery on me with a Pro Palestine badge you bet I would be uncomfortable.

It is only certain views, that is why people have reached the end of the road with the woke multiverse, it is just a big bag of nonsense with loads of people virtue signalling along the approved bandwidth.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 04/06/2026 14:36

ScribblingPixie · 04/06/2026 14:33

I agee, but what is an "Israel badge"? A badge showing the country's flag? Is that honestly something you might see in an NHS hospital?

Well no because the NHS is entirely captured by one side of the political aisle, I was attempting to be non partisan...

JimBobsWife · 04/06/2026 14:37

DrudgeJedd · 04/06/2026 13:35

Who said it on BBC radio?
I could phone in to Jeremy Vine and say Zack Polanski ate my hamster. Random people saying stuff on the radio doesn't necessarily make it true.

The BBC misquoted Farage and had to apologise so all sorts of things can be said on there which are not factually correct.

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 14:38

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 04/06/2026 14:36

Well no because the NHS is entirely captured by one side of the political aisle, I was attempting to be non partisan...

What utter bollocks.

FlorenceAndTheVagine · 04/06/2026 14:40

I see the OP has provided two (ludicrous) posts and not engaged further. Hmm.

Kalalily · 04/06/2026 14:40

Marmight · 04/06/2026 13:08

Being a decent person who opposes genocide or that your patient is safe with you should be the standard and shouldn’t have to be signalled via the wearing of a particular lanyard.

There are nuances always but sometimes the signalling support towards a particular group may exclude another group.

Anyone who works for the government should be supportive to everyone and therefore no performative support allowed.

💯

lornad00m · 04/06/2026 14:41

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 04/06/2026 14:00

A lovely sentiment and one i wish was a reality.

But its not ever going to be one.

We only have to look at the treatment of women by men to know that while things improve, women are historically and in modern times treated as less than.

Bias will always exist, there are many people in power who use their position to abuse, look down on and mis treat women.

So when I chose a GP I chose one who was women centred, worked to my needs and boundaries and made me feel safe in my most vulnerable times.

If I was gay, and had to attend a busy trust or Emergency room, I would want to know that the person seeing me doesn't have bias and will treat me regardless of their feelings or beliefs.

If I were black/jewish/Muslim, I would want the same.

So some indication of understanding and support is needed.

Health care workers/police etc are not all angels and heroes who care for all.

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Just how many lanyards/badges/pins would it take to represent all the different types of minority/marginalised groups in this country?

Whether you like it or not lanyards have become politicised and symbolic of performative activism. They should have no place in the working environment.

PropertyD · 04/06/2026 14:42

KeepPumping · 04/06/2026 14:36

It is only certain views, that is why people have reached the end of the road with the woke multiverse, it is just a big bag of nonsense with loads of people virtue signalling along the approved bandwidth.

Big bag of nonsense! What a great phase. Can you allow me to use that at work. It sums up all sorts of things I come up against (I work with local authorities)

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 14:43

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 04/06/2026 14:39

That’s a claim by one whistleblower in one hospital. Try harder.

sparklyblueberry2 · 04/06/2026 14:44

My nhs trust has had this in their policy for years and I’m talking like 20yrs when I started.

PenelopePinkerton · 04/06/2026 14:44

When I first started in the NHS, the rules were nothing other than your works issued lanyard/ID card. Then slowly over time, more and more things made their way in. It needs to go back to just issued ID.

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 14:44

Melom · 04/06/2026 14:09

I think it's probably quite a good idea to work towards public spaces that are as neutral as possible. It's never going to actually be neutral, but we can try to take down the temperature between us, and create task focused spaces that don't require belief statements wherever possible.

By this I don't mean that people must conceal their beliefs, but there's a delta between hiding what you believe in and making placards and posters and waving flags and so on. We can find some balance here I think.

Instead of a lanyard showing that one specific group of people are ok with you, it's probably worth thinking about how as a profession HCPs can create a sense of general security that no matter who you are or what you believe, you will be treated humanely by the NHS. That's really the belief statement the general public are looking for from HCPs.

This and I would suggest that the best way to do it is to do what I was used to when I worked and managed which was no badges except professional organisation and official name badge and the same for lanyard.

ScribblingPixie · 04/06/2026 14:45

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 04/06/2026 14:36

Well no because the NHS is entirely captured by one side of the political aisle, I was attempting to be non partisan...

That's what I thought, which is understandable. But I think it's time to say it like it is, not 'both sides' it.

Heyheyitsanotherday · 04/06/2026 14:45

I don’t get what you’re saying? I work for the nhs and don’t wear a lanyard that says I’m against genocide as surely for most people that’s a given? I don’t wear anything over political as sick patients are not the people to preach to. I prefer to treat humans as humans regardless of their beliefs and don’t discuss my own with them.

Winter2020 · 04/06/2026 14:45

CheeseyOnionPie · 04/06/2026 13:27

“Safe” how?

I'm guessing @MotherofPufflings
doesn't want blokes in the women's loo (or on the women's ward).

SunnyAfternoonToday · 04/06/2026 14:45

PropertyD · 04/06/2026 14:19

Quite honestly I dont know how we have got this so wrong. What if someone wants to support Farage and Reform? What if they are pro termination or the opposite?? Are they allowed to show those views or is it only certain views?

I really really dont care what their views are especially when they are in uniform.

I am not Jewish but if I saw a surgeon just about to do some surgery on me with a Pro Palestine badge you bet I would be uncomfortable.

I'd get off the operating table (if I hadn't already seen his Pro Palestinian badge at a prior consultation!)

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 04/06/2026 14:46

ByWittyGoose · 04/06/2026 14:02

It's lost it's meaning hasn't it?

Yes, it lumps everyone to the right of Corbyn in a big ‘far right’ mass.

inamarina · 04/06/2026 14:46

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 04/06/2026 13:37

Are there not Palestinian people in the UK? Do they not deserve to feel safe?

Also there is a very long history of doctors and nurses treating gay people appallingly.

There should be something to denote a safe place for them.

And for women.

And for people with disabilities.

Its not either/or. It can be all.

So Palestinian patients wouldn’t feel safe unless the NHS staff wear a badge with their flag?
What about all the other people from other conflict zones?

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 14:47

sparklyblueberry2 · 04/06/2026 14:44

My nhs trust has had this in their policy for years and I’m talking like 20yrs when I started.

yup. I started working on the NHS in 1975 and retired in 2007. In all that time and over several NHS organisations, the rule was always the same. Professional organisation badge and NHS name badge /lanyard only

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 04/06/2026 14:47

I want to see schools stripped of all political indoctrination next.

IonianNerveGrip · 04/06/2026 14:48

inamarina · 04/06/2026 14:46

So Palestinian patients wouldn’t feel safe unless the NHS staff wear a badge with their flag?
What about all the other people from other conflict zones?

This is it, how would it feel to have escaped, say, Sudan and to see that the NHS staff member cared enough about Gaza to put it on their clothing but not your plight?

GeneralPeter · 04/06/2026 14:48

EmpressSisi · 04/06/2026 14:22

Will it include poppies?

If that’s the price then yes. I think they are much less divisive than Palestine or trans. But no one needs to wear a poppy to do their NHS work.