Can someone explain this to me

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m wondering if anyone else can help me get my head around this as I don’t understand any of it and my dad doesn’t make sense to me when she’s telling me these things.
She is nearly 17, diagnosed sdhd a few years ago and now left school but don’t go to college (her words she doesn’t want to do the coursework) believe me we have tried with her, set her up and interview at a local dental practice (refused to go) got her several job applications etc and really really tried to get her into college.

Anyways, she is claiming pip, she was awarded the standard rate but appealed this as she thinks she entitled to the higher rate, so is taking it to tribunal now as they’ve declined her appeal twice. She was also claiming universal credit and getting fit notes ? Off the doctors to say she isn’t capable of working or something like that, this is what I don’t get, she is capable of working, goes out alone, manages her own money, very independent as lives between her nans, moms, here and friends houses. Universal credit have today closed her account and said she is fit for work. She is absolutely fuming about this and says they’ve done her over. Surely if she’s looking for work whether she’s fit or not she’s still entitled to the job seekers? Have I got that wrong ? All I know is how myself and dh are going to be expected to fund her lifestyle until she does get a job, which let’s face it she hasn’t exactly been trying very hard to get one as she has been relying on the benefit money.
So could someone explain this all to me ? Why would they close her account down and say she isn’t entitled to anything as she’s fit for work? even with her diagnosis ? Thank you

I think dsd thinks because she has a diagnosis of adhd this is her reason not to have to work

Maybe time for a wake up call then, especially as you are suggesting that the issues have previously been exaggerated in order to claim benefits. I think we will be seeing big reviews/ crackdowns of the system soon.

Def sounds like she is fit to work. At 17, she is still a child and you should be providing her with the basics of life. All the luxuries she is currently enjoying, well, she needs to get up off her bum and work for those. I have incurable cancer, plus two other chronic conditions that require medication 3-4 times a day to stay alive - and I don’t bloody well qualify for all that. She needs to sort herself out and join the real world.

This. Sounds as if she’s capable of working but doesn’t want to. Very entitled!

She clearly doesn’t want to put the effort in. Why should you enable her by giving her money / funding her lifestyle? Why should the tax payer be paying?

You and others will be providing the basics. A roof over her head, food, etc. but don’t suggest you fund luxuries.

People like your stepdaughter are the ones making life 10x more difficult for those of us with genuine disabilities and are getting abuse at every turn. Labelled as scroungers and scum. I saw a comment today calling disabled people the “blue badge brigade of scroungers” I’d give both arms & legs to be healthy, able to do the job I spent YEARS working towards and getting a degree for and to be able to see my child grow up (diagnosed after having my DC, before I get abuse for having a child when I’m disabled). Yet thanks to people like your ‘Darling Step Daughter’, we’re now all treated like we’re the dregs of society; lumped into one singular category - scroungers.

The whole system is just all such a mess isn't it. They simply must look at urgent reform of PIP.

My relative has a diagnosis of ADHD and dyslexia...and works full-time.

17 year olds can't claim UC if living with parents which is probably why a claim would be closed. Her claim would not be closed if not job seeking and was meant to be but a sanction would end up being applied. Which would mean no payments but if this was the case she would have received warnings. A fit note would mean work search not expected pending a work capability assessment.

The whole thing sounds quite confusing and I doubt she is telling the truth or does not understand. It also sounds like she is angling for a life on benefits.

Just to say I don’t agree with dsd doing what she’s doing with exaggerating her symptoms and trying to get everything for nothing. Myself and dh are really disappointed in her but she is very much a product of her mother and bfs type of life. Her bf also received high rate pip for adhd, drives around his motsbility car illegally, she said she should have got a paper based assessment like he did and then she would’ve got the high rate, but because she rang them taking her mum off as appointee they decided to do a face to face assessment instead. Honestly you couldn’t make it up.
I have a mentally disabled sister and have witnessed my mum fight and fight for her to get her the support she is entitled to, so this does really piss me off on a personal level. I’m only getting one side of the story though, dsds, who very much makes it seem like she is the victim in some way and that she is entitled to all this stuff. I know nothing about benefits and luckily I’ve never had to rely on them hence me making this thread and googling

She's in for a shock. Only having ADHD plus the fact she is capable of managing her own money, has no issues with travelling around to different houses and just doesn't want to go to college - She's lucky they awarded her anything. They might remove it all on a second appeal. Most adults with ADHD work.

Stop funding anything for her other than very basic life essentials such as food!
No phone credit, no subscriptions, no clothing allowance until she realises that life isnt free, being an adult sucks and to have nice things in life you have to get off your arse and earn some money!
Stop enabling this entitled behaviour and it will improve!

Of course we will continue to do the basics but I don’t think we should be giving her cash to get her nails done etc, she needs to get a proper job or go to college

No absolutely not. Food, basic toiletries, yes. If she wants her nails done let her benefit scrounge of a mother fund it.

I did think the fact she has called them herself and told them she is capable of handling her own money must’ve made them think she is more capable than what’s being made out. I’m very interested to see what happens of the tribunal… knowing dsd though it will go her way, things always seem to

okay it’s got even stranger… I’ve asked dsd exactly what she was awarded for pip, it turns out she never got any daily living but only mobility at the higher rate, so she is appealing not receiving daily care too. Why would she qualify for mobility at the higher rate?!

She may have told them that she is too anxious to go out alone, can't get buses, needs taxis or somebody to drive her.

And that would be untrue

She sounds like a grifter who is playing the system and taking the piss massively. With that level of commitment to getting what she what she wants she sounds more than capable of holding down an actual job. Where has she learnt that this is all an option? I despair.

I said to dh if she put this amount of effort into studying/working she’d be amazing ! I think alot of it had come from her bf and his mum. Also her mum too has encouraged it. Chat gpt too for writing emails etc

Report the fraud.

Whenever people jump to defend benefit claimants they conveniently forget that immoral, dishonest and selfish people like your SD are very much out there. Lie through your teeth et voila free money.

My friend has MS and is in a right mess - I helped her with her PIP and it was a slog to answer everything honestly and with evidence.

It makes my blood boil that this can exist alongside the struggle we had to go through.

I am thrilled it’s all been stopped sounds like she doesn’t actually need anything apart from a massive kick up the arse