What will reform actually do?

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Lots of talk about reform getting in at the next election, lots of gleeful posters saying the benefits gravy train will stop etc but what can/will reform actually be able to do if they come to power? Their policies are very sensationalist and make lots of noise about stopping benefits for immigrants, stopping the boats.. but how? It can’t actually be done because of laws around human rights and foreign policy. They have already backtracked on cutting triple lock pensions so surely the majority of their policies would end up crumpling as well as they can’t be pushed forward. Cutting pip for depression.. how?! It feels like a drunk racist has written his thoughts on the back of a scratch card and ran with it!

Whilst I don’t agree with a lot, I do think the pip for anxiety/depression needs to stop.

The whole point of being in government is that you can change the law in order to implement your policies. You can pass new laws & you can also repeal the laws you inherited.

Reform’s policy is to repeal the 1998 Human Rights Act and the 2010 Equality Act. Both of which were passed by the previous Labour government and retained by the coalition & Conservative governments. Reform argue that this will make iit possible to, for example, deport illegal immigrants en masse. Assuming, of course, they can find another country prepared to take them.

I don’t think they will do a lot, they probably will not have a majority to do very much,

I had a mother with severe depression. She literally couldn't get up out of bed for months. She was a single parent.

Well I think their approach is that by stopping the boats everything else will just fall into place. Boat stopping is like the first domino being pushed - all the other things will just get better as a consequence clearly once they stop the boats !

I hope you're being facetious?! Stopping the boats will do diddly squat to solve the average Brits problems. It will only lead to a new group of people having a target painted on their backs - legal migrants, Brits of colour, disabled adults, children with ASN, take your pick. Unfortunately, the types of people who need to be the targets or out ire, millionaires and billionaires, are the very sort funding Reform. And no, I don't think the boat crossings are a good thing and I agree it needs to stop, but it will in no way solve the problems this country faces.

No one knows. Least of all them. And I'm not being facetious either.
It's impossible to find any detail of their intent that offers any clear plan. They're all about outcomes but without any actions to get there. Added to this, they are extremely light on intelligent, experienced and reputable members with whom to form a government.
We see this from the candidates they offer, for example in Makerfield and those now running local authorities. They are seriously out of their depth with little idea of how to make anything happen.
Their problem is their ideology is too unpalatable and their reputation too poor for them to attract high quality people to the party. So even if they had plans, they don't have the capability to implement them.

I was being sarcastic!

I think if you look at America you’ll see what reform will try to do.

One saving grace of the House of Lords is that Reform can't push through mad new laws easily.

All of the parties should commit to ripping up the tax laws and starting again from scratch without accounts advising on how to leave loopholes for the insanely wealthy.

Nothing, that’s useful to us anyway. Plenty for themselves, though. We’ve had the preview in Clacton and Kent. I doubt if they’d actually stop any boats, any more than Sunak managed to send anybody to Rwanda.

It would be Boris Johnson on steroids. He only did any governing because his hand was forced. Most of the time, he was only thinking about what he could get out of it for himself. Covid forced him to do more prime ministerial work than he intended - he didn’t want any of that claptrap.

Reform will not do this, as they are the insanely wealthy.

In answer to the thread title, my answer is lie, cheat and steal?

And continue to quit from their council seats