At what age do men become weaker than their sons?

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At the moment, DH is 53, son is 29 and son-in-law is 28. If DH came to blows with either of them, he would win. He's still very strong and he's heavier than both of them too. I'm watching my Dad decline considerably, he's gone from being a very strong man to very vulnerable, and it's been so gradual, that I can't pinpoint when that cross over happened. Just musing really, when is that switch over when men of son and SIL's age become the stronger ones, and the older one (DH) moves into the elderly/weak category?

You can’t seriously be asking this?

Are you asking who would win in a fight?

when DH was 53 our son was about 20, at uni , very fit and playing rugby. I don!t think DH would have stood a chance!

I’m 54 and my sons are 24 and 19. The 19 year old plays a lot of rugby and is built like a brick outhouse, the eldest is pretty powerful too. I would say they are stronger than me, so if it came to “blows” (it absolutely wouldn’t) and it was pure strength, they would win. In reality at the moment, I would, as I’m a martial arts 4th Dan black belt, still train and have done for years, so I am far faster than them. This though won’t last forever.

ETA: This wouldn’t happen, as if they ever did hit me (they wouldn’t), I would no way retaliate.

I read it as more like a fitness/strength competition rather than an actual fight.😮

Mentally ds outranked dh from birth.

It probably depends on what the dad does for a living, if he sits in an office all day then it will be earlier than if he works in a trade doing heavy lifting.

Such a weird question.

I mean apart from the obvious 'come to blows' willy waving weirdness, it's like you think all men are exactly the same.

Yes, I did mean in a fight. There won't be any fighting, we all get on very well, but DH still has to sometimes grapple with youngsters in his job (Police), and it just has me wondering.

Fight club for family🤼🤼‍♀️

Surely this depends on the age difference? My father is 41 years older than my brother.
Me and dh were both only 16 when our ds was born

All depends on the individuals you are comparing. For both physical and strength of mind. I have known strong older men and weaker younger ones and vice versa.
As to coming to blows. I have never been in a family where the contemplation of that could have featured and I am sorry for you.

DS is 19 and a fantastic rugby player. Tall but slim. He’s powerful and I wouldn’t fancy my chances with him 😂 nor DHs (similar build but not a rugby player and he’s 58).

I reckon most young men would be stronger than their dad from about 20 ish, assuming Dad would be 50 ish at that point. But winning fights isn't all about strength, it's also confidence, tenacity, agility, balance, mental focus and determination, and that is more about character and personality.

Well my thirteen year old could easily beat both of us in an arm wrestling competition im sure, as he’s the size of a bloke. It doesn’t bother me though. I rather like it.

It's how long is a piece of string. A dad with a physical job versus son with sedentary job or visa versa. One physically bigger than the other, one or both go to the gym or do a lot of sport, both physically fit or not. One more aggressive than the other or more street wise, more killer instinct. Always eventually I would say.

Surely this depends on the shape, size, strength and fitness of the individuals?

My dh is 65 this year, ds 23. Dh can still out lift the ds and they are both ridiculously strong. Great at opening jars!

😂

Surprisingly late, I think. Although our sons are much bigger than DH, he has way more experience in using his strength, so that he’s still more effective when it comes to carrying loads or moving heavy furniture.

By contrast they were significantly stronger than me at 14.

I mean, it depends on the individuals, surely? My dad is approaching 75 and fit as a fiddle, FIL is 5 years older but unfortunately struggles massively with his mobility due to a life of hard physical labour.

Dad died 25 years ago … looser (?)

There is a different crossover point between pure fitness/strength, and being able to use that strength.

E.g. I could probably lift more in a gym situation than my dad when I was about 21 and he was 50. But when it came to a using strength in real world situations - maneuvering heavy boards, using a hammer and chisel effectively etc, he still had the edge on me when he was 65, as if you've worked your whole life doing something, you get very efficient at using your strength.

Fighting I guess would fit in the same category of how you use your strength is much more important than how strong you are but luckily I never tested that.

DP was 17, his dad was 46 when his dad tried to lay into DP as he always had done and DP fought back and won. He never tried to assault his son again.

I don't believe a 50 odd year old would beat a 20 odd year old.

You really don't consider how much just their testosterone impacts them. I was a professional fighter but untrained young men were just outright stronger than me.
Obviously it depends on them, if the boys are skinny gamers and dads a beefy boxer then yeah.

Haha, I get your questions OP. I doubt you're currently refereeing a boxing match between your husband and son. I've thought about it myself, esp how it must feel to go through such a dramatic change in physical strength.

My own experience was that DB became physically stronger than DF in his late teens maybe? Around 18, DB just lashed out in self-defence, and won, and DF never hit him again. But younger than that, he may have been stronger/ faster but he was sober, so had inhibitions, you don't hit your dad etc (and fear??). Obviously DF was in far from peak physical shape, but he was still very strong. Maybe he could have still "won" but just chose not to? But yeah, that's what I remember. By mid20s, no contest, though as someone else said DF was more used to using his strength, better at lifting stuff etc.

Wee brother was noticeably stronger than me (10years older) by age about 13. And he's no body builder 😂

Men are bloody strong. Scary when you think about it.