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Work trip restaurants have no vegetarian options and I hate fuss

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Clockinginat2pm · Today 08:27

Away abroad with work.
We have clients with us, there’s a few of us flown over.
Activities all organised by head office, lovely, it’s really well organised day & evening.
Restaurants booked for each evening… Smash burger place and steak & fish place x2. Checked out menus and there is zero, and I mean zero vegetarian option on any of the menus at all. Starters/mains ALL meat or fish pf some form. There’s not even any sides (which would usually be more go to)

I do not want to draw ANY attention to myself at all as I am excruciatingly dreading these events as I am introvert, socially extremely anxious and feeling very very out of my depth with it all.

Fade into the background is my main aim..

So, do I order something with meat/fish & just pretend to eat it and be hungry for a few days?

I don’t speak the language, the waiter from last night spoke no English so ringing them to order something else is not an option here at all. (I ended up with an appetiser of grilled asparagus which I couldn’t eat so pushed it around my plate for 40 minutes.

Ive used my emergency pack of biscuits as I was starving.
What would you do in my shoes???

OP posts:
ItsJustMeMyself · Today 11:19

"I'm not hungry. I'll have water/soda/wine/orange juice/tea...."

BoredZelda · Today 11:21

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 09:02

I had the same issue when I went on a work trip to a small town in Southern China - I couldn't eat most things on the menu.

I just went along to the dinners and told my colleagues about my dietary requirements whilst I was in the restaurant and they liaised with the restaurant in native language to find me something I could eat. Granted, they weren't the best meals but no one minded and it didn't derail any plans.

I had similar when we met some Japanese clients in Paris and they wanted to go to a Japanese restaurant which was mainly noodles and fish. I apologised and said I didn’t eat either of those, so they pointed out a rice and beef dish that they said I would love. I did. Nobody was offended, if anyone thought badly of me, they didn’t show it, and I wouldn’t have cared anyway. I’m an adult in a professional job, if I can’t speak up for myself, I shouldn’t be in the job.

PurpleThistle7 · Today 11:21

Bjorkdidit · Today 11:17

I'm similar in that I've been vegetarian on and off and while now an omnivore, I don't eat a lot of meat and will often choose a vegetarian meal off a menu because to me, it's all just food.

However, I'm saddened how often caterers seem to think that, because someone has a particular dietary requirement whether it's vegetarian/vegan, halal or an allergy, it must also mean they're on a low calorie and low carb diet, nor do they care about having a nice meal.

So while I would actively choose meals that happen to be vegetarian, and will go to restaurants that have a good selection such as Asian or Middle Eastern, I'd never blindly tick the 'vegetarian' option if I didn't know what I was going to get, because too often, it would be a rubbish salad or something really basic like tomato pasta even when the meat option is far more substantial/interesting. It's not hard to provide a proper vegetarian meal and it seems that some places don't even try. Even a nice soup with decent bread, mezze plate with hummus/falafels, omelette, salad and chips or a cheese salad sandwich and crisps would be better than a lot of the rubbish on offer.

I grew up eating a lot of middle eastern meze type meals and it's my go-to. Loads of amazing veggie meals at Indian, Japanese, any sort of middle eastern, Italian (depending on your feeling on parmesan), etc.

My parents and brother are pescatarian as they keep kosher and when I first moved to the UK, loads of pubs would have meat/meat/meat and macaroni cheese. We quickly learned to check the menu first! It's very different nowadays of course - this is 20 years ago.

I know I will never eat the meat on planes so I tick veggie but am just ready to only have some bread or whatever and travel with loads of snacks. Some of the options are really, really awful.

Mumsntfan1 · Today 11:22

PurpleThistle7 · Today 11:15

I think a bewildering number of people on this chat think chips are always vegetarian.

yes and cheese!

PurpleThistle7 · Today 11:22

Bjorkdidit · Today 11:18

I know. People never seem to believe that almost all fish and chip shops in Yorkshire, and possibly other places, fry in beef dripping unless they say otherwise, which is incredibly rare.

I'm in Scotland and agree. I took a friend's veggie kid to a beach chippie place a couple years ago and he could eat... ice cream. So he did with enthusiasm!

Poulaphooka · Today 11:23

PurpleThistle7 · Today 11:05

I grew up vegetarian so don't naturally eat a lot of meat. I always order vegetarian for flights and Air France's meals were hilarious. One flight I got a plate with lettuce, mango, cottage cheese and asparagus all together as a salad. It was indeed vegetarian but it was in no way delicious. I bring my own food now!

Last time I flew Air France, the very nice cabin crew ended up putting together a meal for me out of their own food as my vegetarian meal, despite being preordered, failed to materialise. I think I had yoghurt, an apple, half a baguette and some cheese for dinner.

Sprinkleofspice · Today 11:26

If you really don’t want to say anything then you will need to go to a shop and buy food that you can eat in your room and big snacks that you can eat during the day. If anyone questions it then just say you feel faint if you don’t eat often. Then order a small dish or something that sounds easy to pick bits out of if that is possible.

The next time there is a trip I would send an email to whoever books it along the lines of “just wanted to double check that there will definitely be vegetarian options on this trip”

SheilaFentiman · Today 11:27

The reason why there is one uninteresting option for veggies is not because a restaurant doesn’t know what vegetarians eat, it’s because it’s cheaper to have one type of special meal that covers several sets of requirements eg vegan, lactose intolerant etc.

itsalltoplayfor · Today 11:27

why on earth couldn't you eat the asparagus

As the OP stated...it was tightly wrapped in ham which she couldn't remove. I presume she ate the ends not touched by the meat.
As for chips some are cooked in meat fat, some aren't. You'd think most restaurants could do an omelette or a salad, boring as that might be.
What isn't clear is where the OP draws the line as regards vegetarianism or which country she is in so people can't help effectively.

Hankunamatata · Today 11:29

Can you email restaurants?

ginasevern · Today 11:30

Bjorkdidit · Today 11:18

I know. People never seem to believe that almost all fish and chip shops in Yorkshire, and possibly other places, fry in beef dripping unless they say otherwise, which is incredibly rare.

It isn't common practice in other countries though unless it's a very traditional, old school type place that you might find in the mountains of Romania for example. But that wouldn't stack up with it being a smash burger joint. Burger restaurants both in the UK and overseas are extremely unlikely to use beef dripping for their fries.

Hankunamatata · Today 11:31

Can you link restaurants. Someone on here might be able to help especially with language issue

BackToLurk · Today 11:32

Vegan here. Always arm yourself with some phrases in the local language. “I’m vegetarian”. “I don’t eat meat or fish” etc. Speak to the staff. Use Google translate. It’s very rare to find a chef who doesn’t want to ‘show off’ what he can do with a carrot.

RampantIvy · Today 11:36

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · Today 09:46

If you're vegetarian though, chips aren't even veggie as a lot of the time they're cooked in beef dripping.

Isn't that more a Yorkshire thing? I would hazard a guess that they would be more likely to be cooked in oil on the continent.

PurpleThistle7 · Today 11:37

ginasevern · Today 11:30

It isn't common practice in other countries though unless it's a very traditional, old school type place that you might find in the mountains of Romania for example. But that wouldn't stack up with it being a smash burger joint. Burger restaurants both in the UK and overseas are extremely unlikely to use beef dripping for their fries.

That isn't entirely true - the actual Smash Brothers chain uses beef drippings for chips. Loads of chippies here in Scotland do too. And a few other chains as well as per Google.

Stompythedinosaur · Today 11:39

Google translate a statement about what you can and can't eat. Honestly, this isn't a huge deal. I suspect the restaurant will try to find you something to eat.

I've travelled widely as a vegetarian, and even in countries where vegetarianism is uncommon in the locals, it's not an unheard of concept for tourists most of the time.

andweallsingalong · Today 11:46

Apologies if this has been said, I've just read OP's posts

OP surely at the burger place you order a cheese burger and chips, without the burger ie a cheese sandwich and chips. Use Google translate to place your order with an additional sentence to say you are veggie to be clear it's not a mistake in translation.

Then look carefully at the fish menu or just have a pudding and sides.

Oleoreoleo · Today 11:49

Maybe you could turn this around and think about it differently?

If you communicate with the waiting staff, via google translate, or whatever, there will, in all likelihood be a little bit of fuss. At a minimum people will notice that your meal is different.

But that’s a topic of conversation you can anticipate and prepare for. It’s actually a ready made ice breaker. Run through it a few times in your head so you’re ready for it.

It can actually be very useful, if you’re socially awkward, to have a little quirk or handle.

Thapnan · Today 11:53

Use google translate to communicate with waiting staff. Put on the message that you are ordering dish X but can they bring it with just the carbs/veg, and no meat.

RampantIvy · Today 11:54

andweallsingalong · Today 11:46

Apologies if this has been said, I've just read OP's posts

OP surely at the burger place you order a cheese burger and chips, without the burger ie a cheese sandwich and chips. Use Google translate to place your order with an additional sentence to say you are veggie to be clear it's not a mistake in translation.

Then look carefully at the fish menu or just have a pudding and sides.

Fish isn't vegetarian though.

MyFellowScroller · Today 11:57

Why do people make life so difficult for themselves? Why keep making rules about diets and other preferences?
There has been no mention of allergies or medical need.

sunnydisaster · Today 11:58

Agree you need to sort this with a senior person on your trip. I have some dietary issues (not veggie), which means eating out can be a pain and in a situation like this I would have to speak to someone. Even if you eat chips and vegetables and buy food to eat in your hotel room you’ll be ok.

FartyAnimal · Today 11:58

I had this in rural Spain years ago. Just asked for a plain or cheese omelette.

Justanothermum42 · Today 11:59

Call head office and tell them. They need to find food for you. I am surprised they did not ask for dietary requirements. Please make fuss, do not worry about it and do not go hungry. Big hug.

andweallsingalong · Today 12:00

RampantIvy · Today 11:54

Fish isn't vegetarian though.

Exactly, that's why I said look carefully at it. Fish with potatoes and veg, without the fish wouldn't be ideal, but better than no meal. Fish pie, less adaptable. Harder to predict as an observer than a burger menu.

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