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Do you pronounce the 'h' in words such as 'whip' and 'while' ?

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TheTecknician · 24/04/2026 18:38

If you do, hwy ?

Seriously, this is something I've noticed in people's speech as I've got older. I'm fairly sure I was taught at school that the 'h' in these and other words was silent but maybe it's not necessarily so. Perhaps it's a matter of regional pronunciation or dialect.

Stevie Griffin says 'coolhwip' in Family Guy.

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OtterBeGood · Yesterday 00:20

KeeleyJ · Yesterday 00:18

Probably will be all the Celtic areas 🙂.

The hv- words were Norse. 'Viking'.

Inspirel · Yesterday 00:21

tofumad · Yesterday 00:17

Well, maybe Irish too. I'm still amazed. My DH is asleep next to me. I want to wake him up and say. Did you know some people pronounce wine and whine the exact same?

It’s called the wine-whine merger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciation_of_English_%E2%9F%A8wh%E2%9F%A9

Pronunciation of English ⟨wh⟩ - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciation_of_English_%E2%9F%A8wh%E2%9F%A9

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · Yesterday 00:21

I'm going to have to listen to some scottish accents really carefully, I'm here trying to make a w-h sound that doesn't sound like a child sounding out 2 unconnected letters and failing miserably! 😂

I'm also going to record myself and slow it down like @Gubbly said, in case I'm a secret w-h er and don't realise! Shock

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

KeeleyJ · Yesterday 00:21

For any of you nerdy about these things, can I recommend "History of English Podcast" on Youtube - it's flipping fascinating, best to start from episode 1 though.

Monolithique · Yesterday 00:24

No, I've only ever known one person to pronounce the Hs in that scenario.

This person worked on wheat and so was giving a talk about wHeat. God that was a hilariously irritating talk..!

tofumad · Yesterday 00:31

KeeleyJ · Yesterday 00:21

For any of you nerdy about these things, can I recommend "History of English Podcast" on Youtube - it's flipping fascinating, best to start from episode 1 though.

Oh I will go find that now

Crwysmam · Yesterday 00:32

TheTecknician · 24/04/2026 18:44

I guess it's at least regional then. I think I've heard Patrick Stewart do this as well.

Patrick Stewart is from Yorkshire. I’ve never heard it pronounced in Yorkshire in fact they tend to drop as many letters as possible.

OtterBeGood · Yesterday 00:33

tofumad · Yesterday 00:31

Oh I will go find that now

Scots has a separate linguistic development

tofumad · Yesterday 00:35

Ok. Now I'm wondering. How do people who pronounce wine and whine the same pronounce who? I mean. They can't say oo are you?

ReadingSoManyThreads · Yesterday 00:42

I don't & I'm Irish. So wip & wile for me. But then I do pronounce water wader 😊

littleorangefox · Yesterday 00:44

tofumad · Yesterday 00:35

Ok. Now I'm wondering. How do people who pronounce wine and whine the same pronounce who? I mean. They can't say oo are you?

I'm Scottish and pronounce whine and wine the exact same. I'm beginning to doubt my own Scottish-ness reading this thread though 😂 I know what people mean when they talk about pronouncing the h but I don't think it's all Scottish people who do this... Also I would just say hoo for who if that makes sense?

Inspirel · Yesterday 00:45

Crwysmam · Yesterday 00:32

Patrick Stewart is from Yorkshire. I’ve never heard it pronounced in Yorkshire in fact they tend to drop as many letters as possible.

He doesn’t usually use his Yorkshire accent any more though, he uses RP doesn’t he?

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · Yesterday 00:46

tofumad · Yesterday 00:35

Ok. Now I'm wondering. How do people who pronounce wine and whine the same pronounce who? I mean. They can't say oo are you?

Hoo - like hoop without the p (now I'm second guessing how people who say pull and pool the same say hoop... 😬)

mathanxiety · Yesterday 00:48

I'm Irish and therefore I pronounce it.

Inspirel · Yesterday 00:48

I think nearly everyone says hoo for who, irrespective of how they pronounce whine, which etc.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · Yesterday 00:48

Although yes, some people who drop h's do say ooo. 'oo are ya?!' wasn't that an advert or a jingle or something?

mathanxiety · Yesterday 00:52

pitterypattery00 · Yesterday 00:19

My (southern English) partner says horse and hoarse the same. And poor and pour. I can't even do that if I try!

Horse and hoarse are the same in my accent, but poor and pour are not. Pour rhymes with pore, poor rhymes with moor/ Coors (beer).

RitaIncognita · Yesterday 00:52

I'm from the US Deep South. I pronounce the 'h.'

mathanxiety · Yesterday 00:55

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 24/04/2026 23:54

I also can't understand pronouncing the H after the W?

I can't figure out if people are describing what I hear as hwip (whip) hwen (when) hwair (where) or if they are saying W-hair W-hip W-hen?

For me where and wear sound identical, as do which and witch. And when is wen, why is Y etc.

Edited

The H goes before the W sound.
Hwere, hwine, hwy, hwether, etc.

mathanxiety · Yesterday 00:57

flagpolesitta · 24/04/2026 23:28

Same, I didn’t realise anybody pronounced them differently to each other. Trying to work out how they could sound different but can’t 🤔

Hwitch
Witch

NeverDropYourMooncup · Yesterday 01:06

Depends upon how pissed off I am.

If I'm happy, I probably don't do it all the time, but when I'm really, really angry, my Grandmother's voice comes out at roughly 3 Kelvin above Absolute Zero.

OtterBeGood · Yesterday 01:13

mathanxiety · Yesterday 00:57

Hwitch
Witch

Quhen and quhere.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · Yesterday 01:16

mathanxiety · Yesterday 00:55

The H goes before the W sound.
Hwere, hwine, hwy, hwether, etc.

See, I get that, I don't do it but I'm familiar with it - but @Carryitjoyfully said

I had never noticed that I did but I do. The h sound is after the w though.

And all I can imagine is pronouncing who like 'wahoo' and that can't be right surely?!

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · Yesterday 01:19

OtterBeGood · Yesterday 01:13

Quhen and quhere.

Ooh.

Is that a wh sound? (I read the Wikipedia page but didn't quite follow the qu bit) or qu like queue or like quest?