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Scottish voting coming up soon and I think I am voting reform

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ScroogeMightHaveBeenOnToSomething · 10/04/2026 21:52

Scottish elections coming up next month. I think I have decided to vote reform.

I guess my reasons are (in no particular order)

  1. Policing - I am getting really worried by the lack of law and order. I live in a decent place and there is constant trouble at the bus station at night with buses getting their windows smashed. Police have been seen riding the buses to try and get it under control. However I just don't think our current police force is fit for purpose. The job is too dangerous for what it pays and so it can't attract people. They don't have enough powers to deal with the little scrotes and there is no respect. I mean look at the whole shoplifting chaos and the tik tok riots. The whole thing is start to feel quite dangerous and reform are saying they will have more police with more powers and be more strict with law and order. This is what I want - more jails, more police, tougher sentences, respect brought back
  2. Housing. Okay so we all know about the housing situation and it's long been an issue. Tonight I was watching an old episode of 'how to get a council house' and I felt so angry and helpless and outraged. Family of romanians come to UK with no money. Mum and Dad and 5 kids. The dad has no particular skills so has been doing odd jobs at a car wash but currently not working. Both have broken english and missing teeth (in other words I don't think they will find getting work easy). So what does the council decide. Well the man is claiming job seekers allowance which maintains his 'work status' and so because of this and the fact he has 5 kids he gets a 4 bed council house. Presumably paid for then by benefits since neither he or his wife are working. They were both very, very pushy and aggressive and then when they got the house waxing lyrical about 'how generous english people are'. You couldn't make it up. Update on how they were getting on a few months later. Neither parent had started working so them and their 5 children were just in their paid for house living on their benefits with no skills that the UK needed. I mean seriously if you want to see what is wrong with the UK this is a good place to start. British people homeless and this outrage going on. So yes give me reform who can hopefully do a Trump and start rounding the fuckers up. I have no issues with people moving to UK and coming with a plan and money and getting jobs and supporting themselves etc. This family came to the UK with no money, no jobs and literally were outraged when they thought they were not getting their free house. The housing lady said they were getting a house through gritted teeth. I got the impression that it was to shut them up and get rid of them but totally unfair on homeless british people.
  3. Benefits/Welfare - well I guess I have touched on that above. I think most of us used to have real sympathy and no issue with real disabled people or genuine out of work people being helped. They were in the minority, it was often short term as it was something they were embarrased about. Now I feel like because there are so 'many of them' I have no empathy at all. Which means the genuine folks are being lumped in with the scroungers and I sort of hate them all now if that makes sense. So another reason for voting reform.

Now I'm no doubt going to get told how terrible I am and that the kids are just having fun throwing bricks at buses, that I'm racist for not wanting unskilled romanians and their 5 children to live life free on our tax pounds. I'll also be a monster for being sick of the benefits issue and woah is me little johnny is going to be out on the streets with his 25 disabilities. Fuck me though. Surely voting for more of this shitshow would be insane.

Will it be better under reform. Yeah probably not but at least it's someone different and it might be better and yes I have read their manifesto.

(By the way one episode of get a council house had a boy with multiple sclerosis and he was getting a council house which of course was right. However you saw him crying and telling his dad he didn't want to live on his own (he was about 20) and it made me think of the posters here who are dead against homes or institutions for their disabled kids. I just thought what a disaster giving this boy a house on his own with careers 4 times a day was going to be (he was in trouble with police alot and was always drunk and getting brought home by them). He was just far too disabled to be living alone even if he was getting a house plus benefits. Sure enough the update was he had been moved into supported accomodation. So for this chap some kind of home was the right place to be and where he wanted to be. I've digressed a bit with this point as it's not really about reform and voting but I just wanted to throw that in there to see why people don't want their kids to go into homes. I mean do they really want to live alone in a council house with benefits. This one definately did not. Anyway might need a seperate thread for that issue or I guess we can discuss both issues here)

OP posts:
MyLuckyHelper · 11/04/2026 14:43

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 14:41

So anyway, who are you voting for in the Scottish General Election?

Reform. And you?

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 14:44

AgnesMcDoo · 11/04/2026 14:35

It was on Sky News

https://news.sky.com/video/share-13530305

Yes Libdem for both votes. They are the only party I don’t find offensive at the moment

Do you like Alex Cole Hamilton? I go from yes to no with him but his contributions to the smacking debate gave me respect for him.

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 14:47

MyLuckyHelper · 11/04/2026 14:43

Reform. And you?

Think I’ve posted numerous times - SNPX2.

Are you voting both votes reform?

MyLuckyHelper · 11/04/2026 14:49

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 14:47

Think I’ve posted numerous times - SNPX2.

Are you voting both votes reform?

oh sorry, how callous of me to have missed your voting intention.

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 14:49

AgnesMcDoo · 11/04/2026 14:35

It was on Sky News

https://news.sky.com/video/share-13530305

Yes Libdem for both votes. They are the only party I don’t find offensive at the moment

Thank you.

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 14:52

MyLuckyHelper · 11/04/2026 14:49

oh sorry, how callous of me to have missed your voting intention.

No worries. So both votes reform?

MyLuckyHelper · 11/04/2026 14:53

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 14:52

No worries. So both votes reform?

Yep. This thread has convinced me that it’s the way forward.

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 14:54

MyLuckyHelper · 11/04/2026 14:53

Yep. This thread has convinced me that it’s the way forward.

Think they want to do away with benefits. Though it won’t particularly matter in Scotland as SNP will likely form the Govt.

MyLuckyHelper · 11/04/2026 14:57

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 14:54

Think they want to do away with benefits. Though it won’t particularly matter in Scotland as SNP will likely form the Govt.

Yeah but benefits only go to the workshy and idle people said on here. So no harm done.

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 14:59

MyLuckyHelper · 11/04/2026 14:57

Yeah but benefits only go to the workshy and idle people said on here. So no harm done.

Find a post I said that. I was a benefits advisor for a while and my job was to help people maximise their benefits. I loved that job.

Smeuse · 11/04/2026 15:02

MyLuckyHelper · 11/04/2026 14:57

Yeah but benefits only go to the workshy and idle people said on here. So no harm done.

Reform will do away with your workers rights and human rights, none of that is good for women.

but they like flags.

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 15:03

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 14:44

Do you like Alex Cole Hamilton? I go from yes to no with him but his contributions to the smacking debate gave me respect for him.

@AgnesMcDoo Agnes, do you remember a BBC debate at the last election, when NS spoke about the collaboration in the SP? She praised Anwar, then Willie Rennie, then Lorna Slater, then looked at Douglas Ross and stopped speaking 🤣

MyLuckyHelper · 11/04/2026 15:03

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 14:59

Find a post I said that. I was a benefits advisor for a while and my job was to help people maximise their benefits. I loved that job.

I haven’t said you did say that. You are aware you haven’t been the author of every post on this thread, are you?

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 15:05

MyLuckyHelper · 11/04/2026 15:03

I haven’t said you did say that. You are aware you haven’t been the author of every post on this thread, are you?

I know you’ve followed me on here as I completely ignored you in my own thread.

AgnesMcDoo · 11/04/2026 17:33

Differentforgirls · 11/04/2026 14:44

Do you like Alex Cole Hamilton? I go from yes to no with him but his contributions to the smacking debate gave me respect for him.

Not massively. Willie are now is alright though.

AgnesMcDoo · 11/04/2026 17:45

AgnesMcDoo · 11/04/2026 17:33

Not massively. Willie are now is alright though.

That should read Willie Rennie is alright

Purplecatshopaholic · 11/04/2026 18:01

Jeezo. I dont know anyone voting Reform here (Central Scotland), and I doubt I’d be seeing them again if I did, I would find our values and views on life just too different. The thought anyone is going to vote for those complete incompetents is just beyond me (don’t get me started on their racism, homophobia, misogyny, etc). Scotland has issues of course, but ffs, Reform is not the answer either here or in England and Wales.

SwirlyGates · 11/04/2026 18:04

No way am I voting SNP or Green (who I voted for numerous times) since they threw women under the bus - and continue to do so in direct contravention of the law, while spending our taxes defending their misogynist policies in court. Plus there are numerous other problems in Scotland, like rising low-level crime and antisocial behaviour in schools and on the streets, and SNP/Green have been the ones in power throughout this. Time for a change.

Ihad2Strokes · 11/04/2026 19:21

ScroogeMightHaveBeenOnToSomething · 10/04/2026 23:28

the sad thing is you are obviously one of the genuine cases. You worked for a long time and then had the misfortune to need help.
I should have loads of empathy for people like you (and I do if I think about it).
The trouble is so many people are claiming now that you are all being tarred with the same brush. The scroungers are ruining it for those who have genuine need.

I mean how long can the country go on dishing out more in welfare than it brings in via income tax. Our debt goes up each month and interest rates are rising as the UK is no longer seen as a great bet.

You should be angry at all the silly benefit claims nowadays. They are ruining what was probably a good system for genuine people in hardship. They are sinking the ship.

Honestly I think we have no good party to vote for so I am picking a few issues that are important to me and voting for who I think might actually fix a few of them. If benefits are reformed I would not expect people like yourself to be affected anyway so please don't take offence. I'm pretty sure most people feel like this about genuine people.

'You're all being tarred with the same brush'

Try repeating that out loud & see how it sounds. Imagine having a stroke overnight (that you had NO warning signs for) & imagine being spoken about like that? Not that nice is it?

I understand that you're angry about a lot of things, I am too. Angry & scared about where the U.K. is headed.

I don't know what the answer is, I feel like 'all the adults' have left the room.

the current shit showing politics is frightening, but what scares me even more is that if I had total control & could choose any politics. From any party to put in any position, I couldn't choise a PM, let alone a full cabinet.

i don't know what the answer is, but I do know Reform isn't it. If they do get in, you will regret it.

i think any of us claiming pip will suffer under reform & whilst ill be personally fucked if I lose it, that's not the biggest reason (.ir even one if the top ones) why anyone voting for them will live to regret it. Let alone thise if ys not voting for them.

Sadly I can't suggest x party might be a better option, but as an eternal optimist I hope by the time the ejections roll around there us a party to vote for, but I'll spoil my vote before I'll vote for Reform.

Smeuse · 11/04/2026 19:23

SwirlyGates · 11/04/2026 18:04

No way am I voting SNP or Green (who I voted for numerous times) since they threw women under the bus - and continue to do so in direct contravention of the law, while spending our taxes defending their misogynist policies in court. Plus there are numerous other problems in Scotland, like rising low-level crime and antisocial behaviour in schools and on the streets, and SNP/Green have been the ones in power throughout this. Time for a change.

Change being Reform?

What will they do for women?

Ihad2Strokes · 11/04/2026 19:29

tokennamechange · 10/04/2026 23:51

Look, OP, I don't agree with everything you've said but I get why you feel that way, and if there was the slightest chance Reform would do anything to fix any of your issues I would understand, even if not agree with people voting for them.

But they won't. You only have to look at the councils they have taken over, or NF's record, to see that they end up doing the complete opposite of what they've promised - said they would lower council tax but have in fact raised it more than any other party, said Brexit would save hundreds of thousands a week and end illegal immigration but it has instead cost us billions, and immigration has increased.

And those are the things they are promising to fix - they are completely upfront about dismantling the NHS and turning it into a private insurance based system. Google the USA and the cost of an asthma pump or cancer medication or given birth - could you afford that?

If you want a protest vote, write 'fuck you' on your paper. Because if reform gets in I guarantee you whatever you're worried about now, you'll be looking back on as an idyllic dream after 5 years of them in power.

Yes, I don't see why people can't see that.

SwirlyGates · 11/04/2026 19:34

Smeuse · 11/04/2026 19:23

Change being Reform?

What will they do for women?

Didn't say I was voting Reform. There are 22 candidates/parties standing in my area!

awaynboilyurheid · 11/04/2026 19:34

ScroogeMightHaveBeenOnToSomething · 10/04/2026 23:17

Well I am a human scottish person. How many others have you asked?

Another Scottish person and I wouldn’t vote for the reform Nazis if it was the last party on earth Farage and his puppet master Trump can, expletive deleted off!

Smeuse · 12/04/2026 11:06

SwirlyGates · 11/04/2026 19:34

Didn't say I was voting Reform. There are 22 candidates/parties standing in my area!

Sorry for getting that wrong.

'got to try something new' is used often by Reform voters

Hope there are some good candidates amongst those 22.

ScroogeMightHaveBeenOnToSomething · 12/04/2026 13:31

DRose3 · 11/04/2026 02:16

Bad politicians all over the world always blame someone else, and generally speaking immigrants are top of that list. Funnily enough, they themselves are never too blame. Despite all the problems people like Farage create, they seem better off financially. All whilst being hateful to everyone & never taking accountability for their own actions. If they can get you to focus your anger and hatred towards those that are less fortunate than you, it means you won't be looking at the real cause of the issue - that is back at the politician in question.

The housing shortage is due to poor planning by govs that didn't build the houses needed to support the population increase (people are living longer now due to modern medicine).

Additionally, putting a cap on how many surplus properties people have for rental purposes would help solve the issue - not forcing people to pay extortionate rent for sub-par living which doesn't allow them to save for their own place. Putting renters at the mercy of so many greedy & unscrupulous landlords.

I wish you would be more angry about that. And about people being be homed by the council into accommodation (private landlord rentals to the council) that are inhabitable & full of mould - & meant a toddler died, because the landlord was greedy & immoral. This is rife across the uK.

Rioting, looting, thieving - uK salaries are absolutely shitty & havent increased in years. Jobs are scarce. For many working isn't enough for people to get by. Closing youth centres etc was a terrible idea. As was penalising couples that stay together to lose their benefits. People are angry and unhappy. You want more people locked away? I want more people to have hope for their future and options. Clearly we need more police too, but is Farage really the only answer to these issues. Keeping prisoners fed is costly business.

Yes, some asylum seekers will get housing, but that show was made to incite hatred imo. I know plenty of people that work really hard and are struggling financially, and still need to claim benefits. That's a cost of living issue, and wage stagnation issue. A socio-economic issue.

And lastly but certainly not least right wing policies are disgusting. They are anti-women, racist, misogynistic, homophobic, and anti-peace.

You should watch a bit more politics online and see what Reform has done for the local areas they already govern. They're keen on more gambling/betting shops on their high streets - we all need more of those. And,they have more “brilliant” ideas to “help”!

I think our housing shortage is caused by many factors. Yes people living longer as you say. Also lots of single households now due to divorce. Immigration which has caused our population to soar far beyond it's resources.

I think BTL has pushed prices up but has not really increased demand as such because the same no of properties exist and the same no of people exist.

I do agree with you that a huge part of the welfare problem is that the council now pay private landlords to house social tenants. This is utter madness. In my mind if the council have no houses left then they just can't give anyone a house. Full stop. I don't really understand why the goverment/taxpayer is responsible for finding grown up adults a house. I mean aren't we supposed to support ourselves. The houses we do have should be enough in number for the genuine disabled. I think the whole point of right to buy is that everyone would stand on their own feet and own their own house.

I also agree with your point that people are angry and fed up. Our country is too crowded now. We don't have enough resources for the number of people living here and thus we are now scrapping like rats in a barrel.

However the only way out of this mess is to grow the economy. More jobs and less people on welfare. Fix the basics - health, Law and Order, Education. By fix I mean change if necessary as I do think our NHS needs to be a system we pay for even if it is subsidised.

The trouble is Britain is in decline no matter what party rules.
Until we get rid of the huge interest bill we are going to struggle to spend money on health, police, education.

The only way we can start to turn this around is getting people back to work and off benefits and grow the economy.
We are also going to need some hard decisions re things the UK can no longer afford to provide.

We brought in a welfare state and the NHS back in the forties with a much smaller population, who lived a shorter life and with many conditions that could not be treated. Neither system can cope with the demands on it now so it is time to scrap both and have a more 'bare bones' system that the UK can afford. Then we can start to repay our debt and then invest hopefully.

Alot of people will go on about pensions and yes this is a huge bill just now. However since we are all going to get it none of us should object to it. I'm still 13 years away from mine so I'm not on it yet but no I don't mind people who have 'paid up' their pension getting it. Also remember as people are now having less children the people who will claim it are also falling. Also with obesity I reckon people might start dying earlier. As the boomers die off the number of people claiming should start to fall. Combine this with a slow increase in the age to claim and the state pension almost about to fall into personal allowances (so soon they will get taxed) and believe it or not this problem will disappear.

The only way to stop crime is to make the penalty so bad that people will stop doing it. Just now there is next to no penalty and look at what is happening. I say cram the prisoners into cells if we have to. I mean if you are law abiding you have no worries do you.

I saw plenty of lazy white people on the 'how to get a council house' show as well. However there did seem to be a large number of non british people thinking they would come across and get a 'free house and benefits' and that example with the romanian family was a real piss take and kick to the teeth of our working taxpayers (and yes I know it was in 2013 or whenever). There was one white man in his sixties who had worked his whole life and his son had died and he had turned to drink. They housed him and I was very glad about this as he seemed to just need help to get back on the straight and narrow after his grief. He was polite and grateful and trying to help himself unlike the romanian family who were aggressive, pushy, entitled and had arrived here about 5 mins ago literally.

I know plenty of people in the UK who came here legally and have worked their socks off and made a good life for themselves and I have no problem with them. They pay their taxes and contribute and I've had many great polish tradesman before they all went back to Poland (it being richer than the UK now)

I think we all need to lose some of 'our rights'. We have grown into a very entitled group of people who nobody is allowed to say boo too. I lived in the south of England for 5 years in my late teens/early twenties and was called 'Haggis' alot in banter. It did not bother me one bit. Now people would be screaming about the english being racist to scottish people. Common sense people.

I suppose we can just keep giving out benefits, pushing up our debt and interest until the whole thing snaps. Then we will end up with no welfare system at all and no healthcare at all except fully paid for by us. Then survival of the fittest will ensure only the self sufficient will survive. However I don't want it to come to that as there are genuine disabled people and genuine short term unemployed people who do as much as they can to help themselves. They should not suffer along with the feckless scroungers who are sinking the ship. However if we don't stop the rot now that is exactly what will happen.

I don't see any other party who are going to address welfare and impose law and order and stop some immigration (before the country literally bursts) so yes I'm voting reform.

I'm white, female, uni educated, was a high tax payer till I retired.

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