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Feeding garden birds: Guardian piece

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ConstanzeMozart · 10/04/2026 16:30

Guardian piece on what to feed and what not to feed garden birds. It's not very clear; is it OK to scatter seeds and nuts on the ground? (among other birds I have jays in my garden and they love monkey nuts, and will hoover up seeds from the ground/shed roof too).
www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/apr/10/rspb-bird-feeders-nuts-seeds-summer-parasitic-avian-disease

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newornotnew · 10/04/2026 18:06

NeverDropYourMooncup · 10/04/2026 17:52

It's typical poor journalism. It's bird tables and flat feeders.

https://shopping.rspb.org.uk/bird-feeders-boxes-tables/bird-feeders/garden-bird-tables

I think it's NEW guidance:

In new guidance, the RSPB is advising people to “feed safely and feed seasonally” by removing all bird feeders filled with seeds and peanuts and instead offering small amounts of protein such as mealworms, fat balls or suet from 1 May to 31 October,

ConstanzeMozart · 10/04/2026 18:06

newornotnew · 10/04/2026 17:53

Shed roof will be worse - flat surfaces spread diseases more.
Can't you just save them until winter?

The advice is intended to stop birds dying from diseases.

I wouldn't personally put fat balls on the ground or a roof as rats will be interested.

Can't you just save them until winter?
The advice says to give them in summer...
The advice is intended to stop birds dying from diseases. Yes, I know, I have read and understood that.
I don't really have the time to buy/find strings and string fatballs on them. I've never seen a rat in my garden.

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newornotnew · 10/04/2026 18:08

ConstanzeMozart · 10/04/2026 18:06

Can't you just save them until winter?
The advice says to give them in summer...
The advice is intended to stop birds dying from diseases. Yes, I know, I have read and understood that.
I don't really have the time to buy/find strings and string fatballs on them. I've never seen a rat in my garden.

I edited this because the RSPB advice might help you more:

https://www.rspb.org.uk/whats-happening/news/how-to-help-garden-birds

Sounds like fat balls in a feeder cleaned weekly aligns with their advice?

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ChocolateCinderToffee · 10/04/2026 18:12

I put mealworms in a feeder.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 10/04/2026 18:18

newornotnew · 10/04/2026 18:06

I think it's NEW guidance:

In new guidance, the RSPB is advising people to “feed safely and feed seasonally” by removing all bird feeders filled with seeds and peanuts and instead offering small amounts of protein such as mealworms, fat balls or suet from 1 May to 31 October,

They're going to need to close their webshop, then (apart from bird themed teatowels) I guess.

placemats · 10/04/2026 18:22

ConstanzeMozart · 10/04/2026 16:30

Guardian piece on what to feed and what not to feed garden birds. It's not very clear; is it OK to scatter seeds and nuts on the ground? (among other birds I have jays in my garden and they love monkey nuts, and will hoover up seeds from the ground/shed roof too).
www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/apr/10/rspb-bird-feeders-nuts-seeds-summer-parasitic-avian-disease

It's regarding bird flu. Which is incredibly serious and there's no vaccine.

Birds are needed in this world.

placemats · 10/04/2026 18:24

Fat balls will certainly get rats in the garden.

Spaghettea · 10/04/2026 18:30

People with gardens need to plant more natural food sources really. No point in having a tidy garden with bird feeders. Let a patch grow wild and keep dead seed heads up all winter.

Snowie99 · 10/04/2026 18:32

I feed the birds from feeders all year round. The rooks and pigeons etc eat what falls to the ground. I have loads of birds so they are clearly dependent on the food

MabelAnderson · 10/04/2026 18:34

newornotnew · 10/04/2026 17:46

We removed our feeders due to crows, they were scary! We now get a much higher number of small birds visiting.

Crows bring you presents if you feed them regularly. I love crows.

RuffledKestrel · 10/04/2026 18:36

I clean and disinfect my bird feeders with F10 disinfectant about 2-3 times a week. Mostly though, I scatter peanuts and seeds around the garden in different places each time. I do only put out food 3 times a week also, if I put some out every day then the 6 wood pigeons simply stay in my garden all the time, only leaving if the fox comes by.

The corvids get their food from my puzzle feeders that I put up specifically for them, these also get disinfected 3 times a week.

I've found the local birds have gotten into a routine with my garden. The magpies and wood pigeons come around most frequently since they both nest in nearby trees. The mob of house sparrows and finches visit when the magpies are elsewhere. Curiously, they also visit when the crows are in the garden. The crows don't seem to bully them like the magpies do.

The garden is rarely empty, the only time there is not a wood pigeon or a corvid is when there is a predator around - we also have a resident sparrowhawk and a frequent buzzard now.

The main reason, especially in summer, why my very urban garden is constantly busy is nothing to do with food I've found. It's because I have a pond. They all come for the water more than anything else.

FurForksSake · 10/04/2026 18:38

If it improves the chances of our declining bird population then I’m all for it. I will try and clean my feeders more regularly and be more mindful because of this advice. I won’t fill them for summer.

bornwithhorns · 10/04/2026 18:39

I love the crows and magpies
I tend to put the fatballs down on the ground and they go super fast
Ive never used a feeder or a bird table

placemats · 10/04/2026 19:01

Snowie99 · 10/04/2026 18:32

I feed the birds from feeders all year round. The rooks and pigeons etc eat what falls to the ground. I have loads of birds so they are clearly dependent on the food

Stop doing that.

placemats · 10/04/2026 19:02

Install a bird bath and change the water daily.

newornotnew · 10/04/2026 19:06

NeverDropYourMooncup · 10/04/2026 18:18

They're going to need to close their webshop, then (apart from bird themed teatowels) I guess.

Yes I think they'll need to remove the flat surface feeders given the new advice.

RaininSummer · 10/04/2026 19:19

I never get finches or anything other than sparrows, pigeons and magpies so maybe I dont need to be that concerned about this guidance. I had a peanut feeder but nothing ate them.

HyacinthsAndPeonies · 10/04/2026 19:26

I bought my ground bird table last year, from the RSPB website, though they don't have it on there any more. It has a cage that goes over the top so the bigger birds don't snaffle everything. It's never crowded, maybe one or two birds in there at any one time. My visitors are sparrows and robins in the feeder and pigeons, wood pigeons, magpies and crows when I throw anything else out. It's so long since I've seen starlings or a blackbird. 🙁 I rarely get finches, but have seen some great tits occasionally. Even the sparrows are sparse. Never see the big flocks we had when I was a kid. If I didn't use the caged feeder then the little birds wouldn't get anything in my garden because the pigeons and crows are more like bloody vultures!

FurForksSake · 10/04/2026 19:56

I am very lucky that two feet outside my front door is an ancient hedgerow. Particularly lucky as we live in a new build. My hedgerow is heaving, heaving with birds. The mornings are a deafening cacophony and I wouldn’t have it any other way. My feeders attract loads of sparrows and starlings as well as pigeons, doves, robins, tits, finches and wrens. The red kites circle but don’t come down.

the hedgerow is full of brambles and bushes covered in berries, it’s a fabulous resource for them but we fill the hungry gap with feeders and put out water when needed.

zantez · 10/04/2026 20:03

I don't feed the birds due to rodent fear 🙄, but the minute I have finished mowing the lawn they descend in their droves and it's great to watch them. What fascinates me is there are multiple and I mean lots, wing to wing, smaller birds on the power line (between the poles) just outside my back wall. They sit there in a line patiently waiting, and then all of a sudden they are in my garden in a swoop. I just love that. I wonder who gives the command to descend!

newornotnew · 10/04/2026 20:06

HyacinthsAndPeonies · 10/04/2026 19:26

I bought my ground bird table last year, from the RSPB website, though they don't have it on there any more. It has a cage that goes over the top so the bigger birds don't snaffle everything. It's never crowded, maybe one or two birds in there at any one time. My visitors are sparrows and robins in the feeder and pigeons, wood pigeons, magpies and crows when I throw anything else out. It's so long since I've seen starlings or a blackbird. 🙁 I rarely get finches, but have seen some great tits occasionally. Even the sparrows are sparse. Never see the big flocks we had when I was a kid. If I didn't use the caged feeder then the little birds wouldn't get anything in my garden because the pigeons and crows are more like bloody vultures!

These are the type of feeders they are now advising people don't use.

Lekking · 10/04/2026 20:06

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 10/04/2026 17:04

More woke nonsense. Pigeons eat anything and they're doing fine. Other birds should be less fussy.

You’re funny.

AgentPidge · 10/04/2026 20:08

newornotnew · 10/04/2026 17:45

The aim is not to encourage the birds to gather, and not to encourage them to return to the same place every day?

No, it's to stop them eating regurgitated food on bird tables and therefore spread disease.

AgentPidge · 10/04/2026 20:11

MabelAnderson · 10/04/2026 18:34

Crows bring you presents if you feed them regularly. I love crows.

I have a friend who has a crow that turns up at around 4pm every day. He knocks on her window and she gives him bits of ham. Actually, friend thinks it's a female as sometimes it brings another (bigger) bird with it.

newornotnew · 10/04/2026 20:13

AgentPidge · 10/04/2026 20:08

No, it's to stop them eating regurgitated food on bird tables and therefore spread disease.

Envy not envy

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