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TW: Domestic abuser sentenced after wife took her own life.

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dapsnotplimsolls · 10/04/2026 13:01

Good.

Apologies if there's already a thread on this. I couldn't see one.

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dapsnotplimsolls · 10/04/2026 13:04

Lee Milne sentencing live: Domestic abuser jailed in landmark case after wife took own life | UK News | Sky News https://share.google/ppbhagePcjTKy1izd

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TempNameForObviousReasons · 10/04/2026 15:30

A slippery slope.

It should bever be the case that you can be imprisoned becsuse somebody else ultimately took the choice to end their own life, no natter what may have influenced them.

TomatoSandwiches · 10/04/2026 15:37

Thank goodness he has been made to take responsibility for the years of abuse he inflicted on his poor wife.

crossroadsfan · 10/04/2026 15:38

Good

dapsnotplimsolls · 10/04/2026 15:48

TempNameForObviousReasons · 10/04/2026 15:30

A slippery slope.

It should bever be the case that you can be imprisoned becsuse somebody else ultimately took the choice to end their own life, no natter what may have influenced them.

Have you read the link?

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Theyreeatingthedogs · 10/04/2026 15:51

TempNameForObviousReasons · 10/04/2026 15:30

A slippery slope.

It should bever be the case that you can be imprisoned becsuse somebody else ultimately took the choice to end their own life, no natter what may have influenced them.

Strange opinion.

DreamyJade · 10/04/2026 15:52

TempNameForObviousReasons · 10/04/2026 15:30

A slippery slope.

It should bever be the case that you can be imprisoned becsuse somebody else ultimately took the choice to end their own life, no natter what may have influenced them.

Completely disagree.

GinaandGin · 10/04/2026 15:58

DreamyJade · 10/04/2026 15:52

Completely disagree.

Agree
A very strange opinion
Conversely we had a case in Northern Ireland where a young womans death was ruled as suicide by the police
Nurses in the hospital reported foul play to the police
Friends repeatedly reported foul play to the police
Eventually got the case re opened and it turned out this young woman was killed by her sisters boyfriend.

dapsnotplimsolls · 10/04/2026 16:01

To be honest, I was half-expecting some 'slippery slope' comments. I'm sure the manosphere is full of them today.

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SayNoHearYes · 10/04/2026 16:02

TempNameForObviousReasons · 10/04/2026 15:30

A slippery slope.

It should bever be the case that you can be imprisoned becsuse somebody else ultimately took the choice to end their own life, no natter what may have influenced them.

I agree.

He should be jailed for his abusive behaviour, and his behaviour should mean he gets a significant jail term.

ohyesido · 10/04/2026 16:11

TempNameForObviousReasons · 10/04/2026 15:30

A slippery slope.

It should bever be the case that you can be imprisoned becsuse somebody else ultimately took the choice to end their own life, no natter what may have influenced them.

he has been found guilty of coercion and judged to have caused her death. She was running from him when she went over the bridge to her death. Therefore he is guilty of causing her death with his actions

HoppityBun · 10/04/2026 16:17

TempNameForObviousReasons · 10/04/2026 15:30

A slippery slope.

It should bever be the case that you can be imprisoned becsuse somebody else ultimately took the choice to end their own life, no natter what may have influenced them.

I disagree:

“Mr Milne, the jury unanimously convicted you of carrying out a course of abusive behaviour towards your wife, Kimberley Milne, from January 2022 until July 2023.

They also convicted you of culpable homicide, finding that your abusive behaviour caused Kimberley Milne to fall to her death.

Over those 18 months, you repeatedly abused Kimberley Milne. Some of that abuse involved physical violence including seizing her by the neck, restricting her breathing, repeatedly punching her on the head and body, striking her so that she fell and lost consciousness, and repeatedly choking her.

The abuse was not only physical. You belittled her by shouting and swearing at her, calling her names, you tried to cut her off from her family, checked her phone, restricted her movements, and controlled her access to money and transport.

Domestic abuse is rarely about one incident. It is not only about violent acts. It includes more subtle, but nonetheless as harmful, exertions of power and control in a relationship. It builds over time. Each act—whether physical, psychological, or financial—adds to the next, increasing pressure and fear, eroding confidence and independence. It is the cumulative effect of the varied types of abuse that makes domestic abuse so harmful and damaging.

By 27 July 2023, you had split from Kimberley Milne and knew that she was in distress and having difficulties that day. Your response to her that day driving erratically and at speed whilst she was in the car with you, shouting at her and throwing an item at her, acting aggressively and intimidating her, was further abuse carried out by you at a time when she was in a fragile state. Following your actions, Kimberley Milne reached a point of despair, such that she climbed over the barrier of a road bridge and fell to her death. By the jury’s verdict, you must bear responsibility not only for all of your abusive acts but for causing her death.”

https://judiciary.scot/home/sentences-judgments/sentences-and-opinions/2026/04/10/hma-v-lee-milne

ArmySurplusHamster · 10/04/2026 16:24

TempNameForObviousReasons · 10/04/2026 15:30

A slippery slope.

It should bever be the case that you can be imprisoned becsuse somebody else ultimately took the choice to end their own life, no natter what may have influenced them.

I very much agree.

LayaM · 10/04/2026 16:29

TempNameForObviousReasons · 10/04/2026 15:30

A slippery slope.

It should bever be the case that you can be imprisoned becsuse somebody else ultimately took the choice to end their own life, no natter what may have influenced them.

I agree too. Suicide charities have always said the reasons people take their own lives are multifactorial and complex. Even in a situation like this, how can anyone know what is going through another person's mind?

I know someone widowed several years ago by suicide. The husband's family fully blame her and it's wrecked her mental health. The prospect of being charged with a crime would have been unthinkable but who can now say that would never happen?

HoppityBun · 10/04/2026 16:32

LayaM · 10/04/2026 16:29

I agree too. Suicide charities have always said the reasons people take their own lives are multifactorial and complex. Even in a situation like this, how can anyone know what is going through another person's mind?

I know someone widowed several years ago by suicide. The husband's family fully blame her and it's wrecked her mental health. The prospect of being charged with a crime would have been unthinkable but who can now say that would never happen?

I think it’s very clear what was going through her mind:

“By 27 July 2023, you had split from Kimberley Milne and knew that she was in distress and having difficulties that day. Your response to her that day driving erratically and at speed whilst she was in the car with you, shouting at her and throwing an item at her, acting aggressively and intimidating her, was further abuse carried out by you at a time when she was in a fragile state. Following your actions, Kimberley Milne reached a point of despair, such that she climbed over the barrier of a road bridge and fell to her death. By the jury’s verdict, you must bear responsibility not only for all of your abusive acts but for causing her death.”

AcquadiP · 10/04/2026 16:50

I applaud the verdict.

My heart goes out to poor Kimberley and her family.

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