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Has immigration enriched the UK through greater cultural and culinary diversity?

116 replies

HonestFox · 05/04/2026 21:52

When it has bought so many different cultures and food into the U.K. so why is there so much hatred towards it?

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Lavender14 · 10/04/2026 00:53

Three4 · 08/04/2026 23:42

Overstaying visas, false asylum claims, marriage fraud, whatever you want to call or categorise it as.

Now that I think about it, I had a relative who was deported for overstaying a student visa and landed 10y ban iirc. I’ve heard some stories growing up which is why I find it extra funny when people think only white people have concerns about our immigration system.

Thank you for clarifying. Not trying to be deliberately obtuse here but are you classing false asylum claims as asylum claims assessed and rejected or under a false name? There are some extremely valid reasons why some people may provide inaccurate information in an asylum application that to my mind should not rule them out. I'm genuinely not trying to be provocative with asking it's just I find a lot of the time people use certain terms related to immigration interchangeably and its often inaccurate which makes it hard to have a fair discussion. So wanted to check we are on the same page.

I understand why these issues you've listed are important and I care about that too, however i think this relates to a very very small percentage of overall migrants. My issue is probably that we aren't specific enough in use of language so people get lumped in together which i think is really unfair.

Lavender14 · 10/04/2026 00:55

AyeDeadOn · 08/04/2026 08:42

What makes you think this? There is some evidence that children of muslim immigrants , for example, are more radical in their views than their parents.

But a lot of this is down to exploitation of young people. Which is a whole other issue in itself. We have the same issue in predominately white communities as well.

suburburban · 10/04/2026 08:50

AnSpideog · 09/04/2026 23:38

That is very simplified. Would you like if a recent graduate was doing brain surgery on you?

Wouldn’t there be more experienced doctors already in the system doing this anyway not a recent graduate, it still isn’t right that the graduates being trained here are not first in line for junior doctor roles in the NHS

Fnfw · 10/04/2026 09:16

For food - recipe books are a thing.

Go walk some parts of London. I definitely don't feel "culturally enriched". I feel like I'm in Bangladesh.

Went to have some food and a friend asked for a recommendation and the guy at the counter running the shop didn't understand English. Total shambles.

I'd rather prioritise immigration from vasts parts (but not all) of the EU, Canada, America and Australia, New Zealand. More culturally similar.

Fnfw · 10/04/2026 09:21

AyeDeadOn · 08/04/2026 08:42

What makes you think this? There is some evidence that children of muslim immigrants , for example, are more radical in their views than their parents.

Honestly when my DC were at primary some Muslim parents would not let their DC hang out with non Muslims outside of school. They also brainwashed them to be anti Semitic and taught "oh the Jews disobeyed Allah".

TempsPerdu · 10/04/2026 09:53

WhyIsWhy · 09/04/2026 11:53

Growing up in a large extremely diverse, multi cultural city I was totally on board with immigration and had friends from all types of backgrounds. Religion or cultural differences weren't really discussed; instead we formed friendships through our commonalities and shared interests. But something changed in the 2000s with an explosion in conservative Islam and a renewed vigour in maintaining cultural ties to ' back home' - from language choices to cultural dress. Learning and subsequently, Communicating in English became a choice not the norm. From this point onwards and up to present times, integration took a big step backwards. I just see sadly, lots of parallel communities living together, but separately of each other. I can no longer see the benefit for anyone.

This sums up my own thoughts too. I grew up in a multicultural suburb of London in the ‘80s and ‘90s and loved it - it felt like a genuine, relaxed mix of cultures all intermingling, but still with a sense of British culture being the dominant overarching ‘norm’. In hindsight I recognise that since I attended a grammar school and lived in what was a fairly leafy area the shared social class, aspirations and educational backgrounds of the peers I mixed with probably hugely aided social cohesion at the time.

I first became aware of the parallel, atomised communities as a teacher in some much more deprived, highly multicultural suburban London schools from about 2007 onwards, but it wasn’t directly affecting me so I just viewed it as an interesting and slightly depressing phenomenon - it manifested as groups of predominantly Muslim heritage choosing not to engage with the overarching culture, opting out of all shared community activities, not learning to speak English (or in many cases allowing women access to English lessons at all - multiple translators were provided for parents’ evenings etc) and bringing foreign political disputes into the classroom (as a rookie teacher I was having to contend with statements like ‘We hate the Jews because they murder our brothers’ in Year 2 RE lessons on the basic tenants of Judaism).

Then from about 2015 onwards my own, much leafier area of the same London borough started changing dramatically, with the demographic changes accelerating during the pandemic lockdowns (I assume this must have been the ‘Boris Wave’). Rather than being a true melting pot, a couple of cultures now had sufficient numbers to outcompete the rest, and these have now established themselves as the dominant cultures in the area, with most community events, new shop openings etc being aimed at this demographic. There is very little sense remaining of any overarching British culture, especially as the council leaders all belong to the same demographic. At this point our family decided to relocate, and we have recently moved out of London to a more traditional, homogeneous area which feels much more familiar to us, and where we feel much more at home.

Fnfw · 10/04/2026 11:22

TempsPerdu · 10/04/2026 09:53

This sums up my own thoughts too. I grew up in a multicultural suburb of London in the ‘80s and ‘90s and loved it - it felt like a genuine, relaxed mix of cultures all intermingling, but still with a sense of British culture being the dominant overarching ‘norm’. In hindsight I recognise that since I attended a grammar school and lived in what was a fairly leafy area the shared social class, aspirations and educational backgrounds of the peers I mixed with probably hugely aided social cohesion at the time.

I first became aware of the parallel, atomised communities as a teacher in some much more deprived, highly multicultural suburban London schools from about 2007 onwards, but it wasn’t directly affecting me so I just viewed it as an interesting and slightly depressing phenomenon - it manifested as groups of predominantly Muslim heritage choosing not to engage with the overarching culture, opting out of all shared community activities, not learning to speak English (or in many cases allowing women access to English lessons at all - multiple translators were provided for parents’ evenings etc) and bringing foreign political disputes into the classroom (as a rookie teacher I was having to contend with statements like ‘We hate the Jews because they murder our brothers’ in Year 2 RE lessons on the basic tenants of Judaism).

Then from about 2015 onwards my own, much leafier area of the same London borough started changing dramatically, with the demographic changes accelerating during the pandemic lockdowns (I assume this must have been the ‘Boris Wave’). Rather than being a true melting pot, a couple of cultures now had sufficient numbers to outcompete the rest, and these have now established themselves as the dominant cultures in the area, with most community events, new shop openings etc being aimed at this demographic. There is very little sense remaining of any overarching British culture, especially as the council leaders all belong to the same demographic. At this point our family decided to relocate, and we have recently moved out of London to a more traditional, homogeneous area which feels much more familiar to us, and where we feel much more at home.

I feel for you.

WhyIsWhy · 10/04/2026 12:51

TempsPerdu · 10/04/2026 09:53

This sums up my own thoughts too. I grew up in a multicultural suburb of London in the ‘80s and ‘90s and loved it - it felt like a genuine, relaxed mix of cultures all intermingling, but still with a sense of British culture being the dominant overarching ‘norm’. In hindsight I recognise that since I attended a grammar school and lived in what was a fairly leafy area the shared social class, aspirations and educational backgrounds of the peers I mixed with probably hugely aided social cohesion at the time.

I first became aware of the parallel, atomised communities as a teacher in some much more deprived, highly multicultural suburban London schools from about 2007 onwards, but it wasn’t directly affecting me so I just viewed it as an interesting and slightly depressing phenomenon - it manifested as groups of predominantly Muslim heritage choosing not to engage with the overarching culture, opting out of all shared community activities, not learning to speak English (or in many cases allowing women access to English lessons at all - multiple translators were provided for parents’ evenings etc) and bringing foreign political disputes into the classroom (as a rookie teacher I was having to contend with statements like ‘We hate the Jews because they murder our brothers’ in Year 2 RE lessons on the basic tenants of Judaism).

Then from about 2015 onwards my own, much leafier area of the same London borough started changing dramatically, with the demographic changes accelerating during the pandemic lockdowns (I assume this must have been the ‘Boris Wave’). Rather than being a true melting pot, a couple of cultures now had sufficient numbers to outcompete the rest, and these have now established themselves as the dominant cultures in the area, with most community events, new shop openings etc being aimed at this demographic. There is very little sense remaining of any overarching British culture, especially as the council leaders all belong to the same demographic. At this point our family decided to relocate, and we have recently moved out of London to a more traditional, homogeneous area which feels much more familiar to us, and where we feel much more at home.

Hard relate. I too moved away to a smaller city where there was less division and more shared British culture. Unfortunately, over the last few years I have seen the same problems start here with a huge influx of immigrants and the pattern of parallel communities/ separate living continues. It's impossible to get to know new neighbours when the women don't speak English and are always accompanied by their husband's who step in and speak on their behalf. A simple exchange of pleasantries about the weather or price of groceries becomes unattainable. It's so different from my multi cultural childhood where it was a true melting pot and overwhelmingly positive. I don't know what the answer is but it's depressingly familiar.

Fnfw · 10/04/2026 12:59

WhyIsWhy · 10/04/2026 12:51

Hard relate. I too moved away to a smaller city where there was less division and more shared British culture. Unfortunately, over the last few years I have seen the same problems start here with a huge influx of immigrants and the pattern of parallel communities/ separate living continues. It's impossible to get to know new neighbours when the women don't speak English and are always accompanied by their husband's who step in and speak on their behalf. A simple exchange of pleasantries about the weather or price of groceries becomes unattainable. It's so different from my multi cultural childhood where it was a true melting pot and overwhelmingly positive. I don't know what the answer is but it's depressingly familiar.

Sometimes the men don't speak English as well.

TigTails · 12/04/2026 10:21

I recently became a British citizen and the number of people (women) attending the ceremony who clearly couldn’t speak or read adequate English was shocking to me.

How they are going to integrate into society I have no idea. Surely they cannot have all been exempt from the language test requirement!?

Moomintrolleys · 12/04/2026 10:27

corlan · 05/04/2026 23:00

For me it's the scale of immigration that's the problem. My home town has changed beyond recognition over the last 10 years so that I almost feel like a stranger in the place I grew up. Eventually those immigrants will assimilate and certainly their children will but it will take decades.

My home town has changed also beyond recognition. But these immigrants will never assimilate..their culture is too different.

AnSpideog · 12/04/2026 10:44

TigTails · 12/04/2026 10:21

I recently became a British citizen and the number of people (women) attending the ceremony who clearly couldn’t speak or read adequate English was shocking to me.

How they are going to integrate into society I have no idea. Surely they cannot have all been exempt from the language test requirement!?

I think you are exempt if you are over 65?

It’s based on speaking and listening not reading? How do you know their reading level?

peakyblenders · 12/04/2026 10:46

DancingNotDrowning · 06/04/2026 09:01

Not all immigrants are equal.

The office I work in is full of immigrants: French, Mexican, Brazilian, Russian & Turkish.

All net contributors, integrated into schools, sports club, communities etc.

Elsewhere there are entire entities/industries propped up by immigrants, presumably making immigration a necessity although in truth I don’t know why jobs cannot be done by citizens, is it just a lack of numbers? Or quality of qualifications?

Then there are communities of immigrants who do not want to integrate and in fact want the opposite: to impose their culture, laws and ideals on the current majority. I do not believe this is a positive and I object to the inevitable insinuation that I am racist for pointing it out.

In which case, if you want to be taken seriously, you need to supply evidence for the claims in your final paragraph that isn't anecdotal.

Fnfw · 12/04/2026 10:52

When my eldest was in primary there were only 2 white children in the entire year.

TigTails · 12/04/2026 10:52

AnSpideog · 12/04/2026 10:44

I think you are exempt if you are over 65?

It’s based on speaking and listening not reading? How do you know their reading level?

They were all well under 65, and I know their reading level because as part of the ceremony you’re required to read/recite an oath from a card you are given.

AnSpideog · 12/04/2026 11:08

@TigTails Well I don’t think there would be any other explanation - disabilities, age …

It is entirely possible that they can read very little. And level B1 isn’t terribly high - it’s enough to get by.

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