Why do people reject Islam?

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Just curious really. A lovely colleague of mine used to be a Muslim but was quite vocal in telling us she was no longer a Muslim. It was a clear, decisive rejection of the religion and not just a lapse of faith.

Has anyone done similar, I'd love to know your reasons.

There were many Muslim girls at my school, some of whom had massively restricted prospects in life. One girl (who was a bit wild) told us she was worried that she was going to be forced into an arranged marriage. She just didn't come back one day, she was under 16.

Things do seem to have moved on since then though but there still seems to be huge variation.

Forced marriage is a sin in islam. Period. If someone forces their kid to marry its gone against the morals of islam. They're the one to blame not the religion.

The majority of muslim women in the world only wear the headscarf/hijab. I dont know many myself who wear the full face veil. Probably would see that moreso in London. Its not a must to cover their face but some do. I enjoy seeing the face and expression too but I certainly dont find it disgusting.

Im sorry I cant explain more as to why some do and some dont. Its like saying a lot of men have tattoos in UK, why isnt everyone else having tattoos.

Sounds like you are OK with what I would view as medieval violence then.

I thought you believed people could make their own choices?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-39991606

A woman I know stopped practicing because she didn’t want to end up being shipped off to Afghanistan and married to her relative. This was what her future had in store until she literally ran away.

@lemonraspberry
So then your post should have been worded as ‘some Muslims’ instead of a generalisation to every single Muslim family out there.

And as I mentioned, culturally there is a lot to play too which you have to consider. I am born and live in the UK, but if my grandparents did not migrate and continued living where they originate from, my life would probably be very different. That brings me back to the point of culture having an influence too. Also, across the many religions that exist in this particular country, it remains a patriarchal society, females expected to be married by a certain age, they were traditionally not educated past a certain standard whilst their male siblings were, they complete the traditional home based roles and this is common across the country, regardless of the religion (of course this is not all - but is widely the case).

Anyway, you can believe whatever you like, all I am saying is don’t paint us all with the same brush. My dad is a very proud dad to his girls as was my grandfather, and my husband happily supports me as I return to university and retrain to pursue a career in a field I want to.

Well, not always. It may not be required in the Quran but for many women it is the will of their male relatives that they cover up. Of course this is more cultural but it is certainly linked to faith in those cultures and a current surge in ‘traditional” Islamic values.
For example I was brought up in a Moslem country and at the time the only women who were veiled were traditional Bedu women from desert tribes.
City dwelling women who worked and had had an education generally (or had ‘progressive’ husbands ) wore western clothes at that time. And some wealthy Bedu women could be seen wearing Dior under their robes.
These days however I think there is some pressure to cover up.

Don't do the crime if you cant do the time.

There is a world of difference between thinking having affairs is wrong and whipping/ imprisoning people for being unfaithful.
Are unfaithful men being whipped and imprisoned too, or just women?

Marriage may be important but many Muslims in the UK are not legally married under UK law; if their ‘husband’ wants to ‘divorce’ them it’s incredibly easy. What are their rights then? I’ve met religious-presenting Muslim women through my work (full body / hair or even face covering) who are single parents to multiple children, sometimes multiple fathers. So they seem very religious, but their lifestyle, not so much. An adorable colleague of mine got ‘married’ just because she was sick of being chaperoned whenever she wanted to do something which wasn’t work (she was well educated and had a good job btw).

Of course there are also many secular Muslims, but religious Muslim women are generally much more controlled by Islam than Muslim men are. I see more and more (Somali, Sudanese?) little girls, aged 4 or 5, fully covered now, just their faces showing. Their brothers aren’t covered. It’s so sad and it’s not a choice.

Yes make your own choices as long as these dont hurt other people. Men and women having extra marital affairs ruins families and lives. My father had several affairs, tried to kiss multiple of my friends and my mothers friends. It hurt us a lot. Hes not Muslim though and living in UK so this wouldn't apply to him. Ive heard plenty of women say when they found out their husband was a cheating pig that they want kill him /make him suffer. Haha

Confirmed then.

And that ladies snd gentlemen is why some of us are worried about the effect of Sharia law on the UK.

Both are punished the same.

Shariah law would be awesome for the paedophiles and child rapists.

How awful and sad. Afghanistan is backward and surreal. Women are even banned from walks in the parks. What kind of messed up life is that.

What age are you allowed to marry in Islamic law again?

How old was the prophet's wife when he married her?

What I'm describing actually happens in Islamic countries. Don't tell me to separate the faith from the culture when a large percentage of practicing Muslims simply do not. Surely they are the ones that need to be "enlightened". And if you are saying that such atrocities only apply to oppressive Muslim regimes, then we can only conclude that the vast majority of Muslim countries live under oppression. There are only three Islamic countries that don't criminalise same sex relationships but even there the social stigma is extremely high (basically it's unviable to be openly gay) and there are absolutely no legal protections against LGBT discrimination. Apart from any of that, the fact is that same sex relationships are forbidden in Islam. Are you genuinely trying to tell me that being gay as a Muslim is "only" a cultural problem?

If the male relative/ husband forces to wear Burka then hes a pig. There's no compulsion in islam. Look it up.

18 babe, and she was 19. Cheers my dears

Look through the pages, to see my previous comment on this. Have a good day

Do you really think that kind of punishment is appropriate for being unfaithful?

I'm talking about Catholic nuns no idea about nuns from other faiths. My aunt was a nun and my teachers. No idea what the ratio of happy to unhappy is just explaining that they would not see it as their choice to become a nun, but their calling.

Yes, I agree. But tell the men that. It’s their culture that women should do so. The Quran only stipulates that both men and women should dress modestly.

Exactly. Quite chilling, really.

So many reasons. To list some, the misogyny, the forced marriages, the grooming gangs, also not a fan of the mass outdoor praying sessions recently in the news but mostly the terrorism. Of course not all who follow Islam are terrorists but they make up most of the uk terror watchlist.

Any religion that converts by the sword and you can only give up on pain of death clearly has a user experience problem.