Why do people reject Islam?

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Just curious really. A lovely colleague of mine used to be a Muslim but was quite vocal in telling us she was no longer a Muslim. It was a clear, decisive rejection of the religion and not just a lapse of faith.

Has anyone done similar, I'd love to know your reasons.

There were many Muslim girls at my school, some of whom had massively restricted prospects in life. One girl (who was a bit wild) told us she was worried that she was going to be forced into an arranged marriage. She just didn't come back one day, she was under 16.

Things do seem to have moved on since then though but there still seems to be huge variation.

I can’t abide any religion where women specifically are expected to cover their head and body in the pursuit of so called modesty. As for the burqua…….

My mum would probably say similar about my family. They are devout Catholics I no longer practice and my parents are very "disappointed". I have issues with all organised, mainly male dominant, faiths but I am sick of one being constantly focused on.

I would like to ask why some UK Muslim leaders do not seem to reflect the spirit of Islam. There is no requirement in the Qur’an for women to be veiled. All believers are asked to dress modestly. There is a requirement in the Qur’an for believers to take care of the world and to protect the environment. True Islam encourage s the use of bikes instead of cars in order to conserve the planet’s resources. Very few Muslim girls are encouraged to use bikes often giving the reason that wearing the abaya, jibab, hijab prevents this. It is such a shame. I wish sensible Islamic teachings ( and many teachings were revolutionary) were allowed to inform modern Islam instead of the adopted patriarchal restrictive practices. Most Muslim leaders in the Uk do not encourage questioning of modern interpretations of Islam. Which are often restrictive for Muslim women.

No, I wouldn't wish my daughter well in having sexual encounters with random men. I dont think anyone in their right mind would say. Have fun on your one night stands, love and we will see you in the morning for breakfast!!!!

I can understand that. To be honest I don’t see the point of any religion nowadays.

Long ago I could see why some people might be attracted to it as a way of explaining things that were unknown at the time but not in modern times where knowledge is far greater.

Surely the question is why does anybody embrace it?

I am an equal opportunity atheist and have no respect for any religion at all (and before any ones gets too enraged I am not saying I don’t respect any actual people who choose to believe whatever it is religion itself which I am referring to) but islam appears to be the most restrictive for girls and women.

Obviously not counting bizarre cults which are even worse.

Well, but why would she be having breakfast with you? I can understand entirely anyone not wanting total strangers spending the night under their roof, but if your adult child is living independent there’s no need for her to curtail her sex life because her parent has hangups and thinks sex is what women trade for commitment.

I am not the OP and I am not Muslim but I assume the OP isnt talking about coercion, rather that she brought her children up with the values she and her husband share (as ALL families do) and that she encourages them to continue to live that way because it brings peace, joy and morality to their lives. Isn’t that what all families do? I’m culturally Christian (but do not practice any religion as such) and that is certainly what I do in my own life and family!

Thanks for your positive comment.

I wore hijab one year after I reverted. Im not hidden and covered or made to stay home whilst my husband is out gallivanting in very little clothing.
Im covered because I love that my hair, figure and beauty is for my husband only. I like that also only women can enjoy my hair. I love that not all men can see my hair. They dont have a clue of how my hair is coloured or styled. I love thats its something special for only me and my husband to enjoy. Also, my brothers, uncles, nephews, my father and father in law and grandfather's can see my hair. At home im free to whatever I like.

Im not hidden away in a huge flappy black burkha whilst my husband struts head of me in a t-shirt and shorts as ive heard that before on here. My husband/other muslim men have rules they must follow too. For example, men cannot show their thighs or be topless. Men are not allowed to show off gold jewellery or wear silk.
Men are also told in the quran to not stare at women, be respectful and look down.

The bible also says to cover your hair or shave it off. But the quran doesn't say that.

I dont wear hijab because men cant control their sexual urges. Muslim men aren't sex mad men who cant control themselves when they see a woman with her hair out. Hijab is simply there as well as modesty as an identity.

Still, why should any woman want to be part of a religion which treats her as a second class citizen?

Perhaps because of the inherent misogyny?
for example, it seems only men can go to Islam”s paradise in the afterlife —and consort with the houris there—
(but I wonder how the houris get there - special dispensation for them? to benefit men, of course )

What Muslim lady said im a second class citizen?

All religions depend upon belief, without any evidence whatsoever to support that belief.
Islam is no different to any of the other religions. All rely on belief.

Only about 30% of muslim women in the UK work, compared to an average of 70% of women in the UK as a whole.

Surely your question is "why did my colleague reject Islam?"

And none of us can answer than for you.

Right now as we speak , there are 2 playing with light up cube fidget spinners laughing and happy , 2 others having a whale of time on the PlayStation. No one here is depressed. And they all love islam/stories of prophets (Adam, Noah, Abraham, Jesus etc we love them all) they love to pray and they love their family.

Why don't the men cover their hair?

Quite.

It’s a disgrace of a religion, whether we’re talking about the scripture/sharia or how it is practised around the world. I’m always astounded by the mental gymnastics that goes on to defend it. It rather reminds me of the whole trans debate.

I don't know how we are all one as a family unit and positive encouragement would be depressing and restrictive.

My friend son is Muslim and hes a drug addict and in therapy and counselling and living separate from them. She still sends him very lovely messages everyday, telling her she still loves him.and is so proud he took the steps to go to the centre where hes living to get help, she hasn't disowned him at all. He's welcome to come back anytime and she expresses her love for him to me all the time.

Id like to know whats disgraceful about islam

Islam teaches to help the poor, help the elderly, dont backbite and gossip, dont hurt others, give to the orphans, respect your non Muslim.neigbour and your Muslim neighbour equally. To be kind to animals. To love and be good to your wife. The quran says the best of you are the best to your wife. The quran says dont kill and dont harm others.

That doesn't sound disgraceful to me. That sounds like good morals to live by.

Do they have a choice? By that I mean a genuine choice not a theoretical one?

Because womens hair and mens are different just like the bodies.

A choice for what, sorry, to live their lives how they like or to/to not follow islam?

Nuns cover as well, as do some Jews and even there are Christian women who cover as well because rhe old testament says. My wearing hijab doesn't affect your day or your health or your life at all.

Both. If a daughter decided she wanted to be a swimwear model would you support her?

If a son wanted to set up a business producing and selling alcohol would you support him?