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Brilliant article on Open Marriages in the i. Anyone got a sub?

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PyongyangKipperbang · 11/02/2026 21:28

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/open-marriage-check-your-market-worth-first-4226298

Read it today in the paper version and it really is good and a very accurate protrayal of the realities of OM, especially for the men involved.

Wondered if anyone had a sub so they could copy and paste, I could take a photo but it would be a bitch to read!

Pushing for an open marriage? Check your market worth first

Why do men vastly overestimate their value on the dating exchange?

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/open-marriage-check-your-market-worth-first-4226298

OP posts:
Arlanymor · 11/02/2026 21:31

Scan it on your phone and then convert to text:

iPhone (Live Text): Open the Apple Notes app, create a new note, tap the camera icon, and select "Scan Documents." Once scanned, you can select the text directly, or take a regular photo and use the Live Text feature to copy it.

Android (Google Lens): Open the Google Lens app (or Google Photos/Assistant), point your camera at the article, and select "Text." Tap "Select all" and then "Copy text," then paste it into your notes app.

PyongyangKipperbang · 11/02/2026 21:33

Arlanymor · 11/02/2026 21:31

Scan it on your phone and then convert to text:

iPhone (Live Text): Open the Apple Notes app, create a new note, tap the camera icon, and select "Scan Documents." Once scanned, you can select the text directly, or take a regular photo and use the Live Text feature to copy it.

Android (Google Lens): Open the Google Lens app (or Google Photos/Assistant), point your camera at the article, and select "Text." Tap "Select all" and then "Copy text," then paste it into your notes app.

Nice idea except my phone doesnt do that! It should but like me, its old and just wont!

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JenniferBooth · 11/02/2026 21:49

hopeful bump?

MyTrivia · 11/02/2026 21:57

Here you go..,

‘One of my favourite categories of Reddit posts is those written by heterosexual men who have pressured their partner into opening up their relationship – that is, seeing and sleeping with other people – only to realise that he has overestimated his market value on the dating scene and grossly underestimated hers.
To take one example, there is the guy who suggested he and his girlfriend of two years “maybe try opening the relationship” so they could both experience not being “tied down” to one another, only for her to start bringing men back to their shared flat within three days, while he hadn’t so much as found someone to talk to.
Then there is the husband who is asking for advice on how to close down the marriage he so desperately wanted to open up because his wife is being banged like a Salvation Army drum, while he sits at home twiddling his thumbs.
And let’s not forget the 40-year-old woman who asked the internet: “Am I the asshole for telling husband it was his choice to open our marriage and I am not closing it?” The answer to that was a resounding “no”, along with numerous links to good divorce lawyers in her area.
I take a huge amount of delight in these pitiful, yet entirely predictable, tales of woe. The arrogance and entitlement of these men is quite staggering and makes the inevitable outcome all the more enjoyable.
The story is almost always the same: a middle-aged man in a long-term relationship gets bored with his very loving and loyal wife and pressures her into “opening up” their marriage. This, they argue, wouldn’t be like cheating because they could both do it. It is perfectly obvious that the motivation here was not to invite new and exciting experiences into his wife’s life, or to grow together as a couple, but to allow him to have his erotic cake and eat it too.
He wants to have sex with other women, but still wants to play house with his wife and kids and can’t really afford a divorce. Then suddenly, like a bolt from the blue, the answer strikes him: an open marriage! That’s a thing, isn’t it? People do that, don’t they?

He then decides to pressure his wife into letting him have sex with other women by calling it “polyamory”. No one can call him an arsehole if he lets her do it too. It’s not cheating! It’s cool and edgy. His little chimp brain is consumed with fantasies of nubile young women in their twenties queuing down the street just to get a glimpse of his love tackle, but alas, it was not to be.
It turns out the 20-year-olds are busy dating other 20-year-olds and have very little interest in a 48-year-old middle manager who has to bring a CPAP machine to an overnight hookup. Who could have seen such a thing happening, right? Our flabbers are collectively ghasted.
His missus on the other hand is having an absolute whale of a time. Her phone is overflowing with hopeful messages, and her calendar is quickly filling up.
In most cases, it’s not that the husband thought his wife wouldn’t be able to find other sexual partners, it’s rather that he didn’t even consider that part of the deal. He was so focused on his own pecker that it simply didn’t occur to him that a) his partner is highly desirable; and b) most men will shag a bollard if you put a dress on it. So now he is left babysitting the kids, night after night, while she is off exploring her sexual horizons. To quote just one of these regretful husbands, she is “blossoming”.
Ha! Good. Serves you right. You had no idea what you had there. I hope your wife gets stuffed like a prize turkey at Christmas. My obvious schadenfreude aside, this does open up a very interesting question: why do men vastly overestimate their value on the dating market?
And they do, don’t they? If you have ever spent more than five minutes on dating apps as a heterosexual woman, you know good and well most men are overestimating their appeal. How else do you explain all the photos of them posing with fish and the terrible selfies, wearing t-shirts saying things like “pussy inspector?” Most men’s dating profiles are hideous, and then they whinge on about how “90 per cent of women on apps only swipe right on 10 per cent of the men.” Yes Kevin! That’s because 90 per cent of the men on there look like serial killers with an angler’s licence.
Confidence is a good thing, but overconfidence is not. Overconfidence can lead us into all manner of silly situations, both privately and professionally, and unfortunately study after study has shown that men have significantly more confidence in their own abilities and attributes than women do – often to the point of recklessness.
This is also true in the world of dating. Studies also show that men tend to rate their own attractiveness higher than women do, as well as their intelligence, and general competence. They are far more likely to think a stranger fancies them than women do. In fact, this pattern is so prevalent in research that it has been dubbed the “male hubris, female humility” effect.
So, of course men are more likely to assume that as soon as they are sexually available, horny women will swarm their house like Night of the Living Dead. The reality is quite different. Cue the tumbleweeds.
Not only have these men overestimated their stock value but, as many people do, they have also failed to appreciate the reality of an open relationship and what that really entails. This isn’t even a man thing, I see women who are considering going poly doing this all the time too. Opening up your relationship is not going to be the hot and spicy fantasy you have in your head. It’s hard work and is going to mean processing a whole heap of unpleasant feelings like jealousy and envy, not to mention anger and rejection.’
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Are you really ready for your partner to have sex with someone else? It’s not a decision to be taken lightly, and certainly not one to be embarked upon simply because you want to get your end away. You need a really strong relationship foundation to make it work, not to mention full and ongoing honesty. You might, for example, have to deal with your partner enjoying a revolving door of lovers while you struggle to land even a coffee date.
The bottom line is that if you are bored of your relationship and want to have sex with someone else, it is probably best to either get some couples’ therapy or just call time on it now. Trying to knob other people by calling it “polyamory” is not the get out of jail free card you think it is. It’s like when couples have a baby to “save” a failing relationship. It doesn’t work; it just makes things worse.
But if you are quite determined to open things up, I would suggest really doing your research into the world of ethical non-monogamy, doing a serious inventory of your relationship together to decide what it is you both want and how this will help. And above all, to know your true worth on the dating scene.

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JenniferBooth · 11/02/2026 22:05

Thanks @MyTrivia Oh some of that is hilariously written

LidlAmaretto · 11/02/2026 22:10

It is very funny "his wife is being banged like a Salvation Army drum while he sits at home"

StCuntyMcCunterson · 11/02/2026 22:14

Gosh that’s hilarious. Banged like a Salvation Army drum while he twiddles his thumbs! Thanks for brightening my day. So many men think their wives are the only thing in between them and a lifestyle Diddy would envy.

MyTrivia · 11/02/2026 22:18

Men are indeed delusional.

Chameleonchange · 11/02/2026 22:32

@MyTrivia
Thanks for that!
An entertaining article.

PyongyangKipperbang · 11/02/2026 22:36

@MyTrivia

Thank you for posting it, much appreciated.

OP posts:
brassbellsandcockleshells · 17/03/2026 07:23

MyTrivia · 11/02/2026 21:57

Here you go..,

‘One of my favourite categories of Reddit posts is those written by heterosexual men who have pressured their partner into opening up their relationship – that is, seeing and sleeping with other people – only to realise that he has overestimated his market value on the dating scene and grossly underestimated hers.
To take one example, there is the guy who suggested he and his girlfriend of two years “maybe try opening the relationship” so they could both experience not being “tied down” to one another, only for her to start bringing men back to their shared flat within three days, while he hadn’t so much as found someone to talk to.
Then there is the husband who is asking for advice on how to close down the marriage he so desperately wanted to open up because his wife is being banged like a Salvation Army drum, while he sits at home twiddling his thumbs.
And let’s not forget the 40-year-old woman who asked the internet: “Am I the asshole for telling husband it was his choice to open our marriage and I am not closing it?” The answer to that was a resounding “no”, along with numerous links to good divorce lawyers in her area.
I take a huge amount of delight in these pitiful, yet entirely predictable, tales of woe. The arrogance and entitlement of these men is quite staggering and makes the inevitable outcome all the more enjoyable.
The story is almost always the same: a middle-aged man in a long-term relationship gets bored with his very loving and loyal wife and pressures her into “opening up” their marriage. This, they argue, wouldn’t be like cheating because they could both do it. It is perfectly obvious that the motivation here was not to invite new and exciting experiences into his wife’s life, or to grow together as a couple, but to allow him to have his erotic cake and eat it too.
He wants to have sex with other women, but still wants to play house with his wife and kids and can’t really afford a divorce. Then suddenly, like a bolt from the blue, the answer strikes him: an open marriage! That’s a thing, isn’t it? People do that, don’t they?

He then decides to pressure his wife into letting him have sex with other women by calling it “polyamory”. No one can call him an arsehole if he lets her do it too. It’s not cheating! It’s cool and edgy. His little chimp brain is consumed with fantasies of nubile young women in their twenties queuing down the street just to get a glimpse of his love tackle, but alas, it was not to be.
It turns out the 20-year-olds are busy dating other 20-year-olds and have very little interest in a 48-year-old middle manager who has to bring a CPAP machine to an overnight hookup. Who could have seen such a thing happening, right? Our flabbers are collectively ghasted.
His missus on the other hand is having an absolute whale of a time. Her phone is overflowing with hopeful messages, and her calendar is quickly filling up.
In most cases, it’s not that the husband thought his wife wouldn’t be able to find other sexual partners, it’s rather that he didn’t even consider that part of the deal. He was so focused on his own pecker that it simply didn’t occur to him that a) his partner is highly desirable; and b) most men will shag a bollard if you put a dress on it. So now he is left babysitting the kids, night after night, while she is off exploring her sexual horizons. To quote just one of these regretful husbands, she is “blossoming”.
Ha! Good. Serves you right. You had no idea what you had there. I hope your wife gets stuffed like a prize turkey at Christmas. My obvious schadenfreude aside, this does open up a very interesting question: why do men vastly overestimate their value on the dating market?
And they do, don’t they? If you have ever spent more than five minutes on dating apps as a heterosexual woman, you know good and well most men are overestimating their appeal. How else do you explain all the photos of them posing with fish and the terrible selfies, wearing t-shirts saying things like “pussy inspector?” Most men’s dating profiles are hideous, and then they whinge on about how “90 per cent of women on apps only swipe right on 10 per cent of the men.” Yes Kevin! That’s because 90 per cent of the men on there look like serial killers with an angler’s licence.
Confidence is a good thing, but overconfidence is not. Overconfidence can lead us into all manner of silly situations, both privately and professionally, and unfortunately study after study has shown that men have significantly more confidence in their own abilities and attributes than women do – often to the point of recklessness.
This is also true in the world of dating. Studies also show that men tend to rate their own attractiveness higher than women do, as well as their intelligence, and general competence. They are far more likely to think a stranger fancies them than women do. In fact, this pattern is so prevalent in research that it has been dubbed the “male hubris, female humility” effect.
So, of course men are more likely to assume that as soon as they are sexually available, horny women will swarm their house like Night of the Living Dead. The reality is quite different. Cue the tumbleweeds.
Not only have these men overestimated their stock value but, as many people do, they have also failed to appreciate the reality of an open relationship and what that really entails. This isn’t even a man thing, I see women who are considering going poly doing this all the time too. Opening up your relationship is not going to be the hot and spicy fantasy you have in your head. It’s hard work and is going to mean processing a whole heap of unpleasant feelings like jealousy and envy, not to mention anger and rejection.’
YOUR NEXT READ

square
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square
JULIAN JESSOP
ARE WE READY FOR WAR? Putin is ready to take on Europe. Here are three ways the UK could finance a war
square
IAN DUNT
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square
KITTY DONALDSON
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Are you really ready for your partner to have sex with someone else? It’s not a decision to be taken lightly, and certainly not one to be embarked upon simply because you want to get your end away. You need a really strong relationship foundation to make it work, not to mention full and ongoing honesty. You might, for example, have to deal with your partner enjoying a revolving door of lovers while you struggle to land even a coffee date.
The bottom line is that if you are bored of your relationship and want to have sex with someone else, it is probably best to either get some couples’ therapy or just call time on it now. Trying to knob other people by calling it “polyamory” is not the get out of jail free card you think it is. It’s like when couples have a baby to “save” a failing relationship. It doesn’t work; it just makes things worse.
But if you are quite determined to open things up, I would suggest really doing your research into the world of ethical non-monogamy, doing a serious inventory of your relationship together to decide what it is you both want and how this will help. And above all, to know your true worth on the dating scene.

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Priceless ! 😆😆

TheWibble · 17/03/2026 09:43

Thank you for this, it's made my day!

I'm divorced - partly because my exH got bored. He definitely overestimated his worth on the dating scene and has admitted as much to me. We've been separated for over three years (divorced for nearly two) and he hasn't managed to go on a single date or sleep with anyone in that time. Admittedly neither have I, but I'm not bothered about any of that, and at least I've had offers of dates and no-strings sex.

RoseField1 · 17/03/2026 10:31

My DH and I have a genuinely open marriage within limited parameters and we have a couple profile on fabswingers. Sometimes when I'm bored I peruse the advice board on the site and laugh at the men complaining that they have been on there for weeks and no women are interested and what are they doing wronggggg
Always responded to by other men pointing out that the number of women genuinely seeking NSA sex compared to men is tiny and therefore they have the absolute pick of men and can be extremely picky. My DH is the exception to the rule described in that article and has a lot of interest and a rotation of 4/5 casual partners but the difference is he's not desperate. Women as we know smell desperation a mile off and nothing is more off putting. When a man is genuinely desirable he becomes more desired and being desirable is at least 50% attitude and personality even when casual sex is the goal. Most men who seek this kind of arrangement have no concept of this.

DreamingOfGeneHunt · 17/03/2026 10:43

Ah that's the funniest thing I've read in AGES!

sammylady37 · 17/03/2026 10:54

RoseField1 · 17/03/2026 10:31

My DH and I have a genuinely open marriage within limited parameters and we have a couple profile on fabswingers. Sometimes when I'm bored I peruse the advice board on the site and laugh at the men complaining that they have been on there for weeks and no women are interested and what are they doing wronggggg
Always responded to by other men pointing out that the number of women genuinely seeking NSA sex compared to men is tiny and therefore they have the absolute pick of men and can be extremely picky. My DH is the exception to the rule described in that article and has a lot of interest and a rotation of 4/5 casual partners but the difference is he's not desperate. Women as we know smell desperation a mile off and nothing is more off putting. When a man is genuinely desirable he becomes more desired and being desirable is at least 50% attitude and personality even when casual sex is the goal. Most men who seek this kind of arrangement have no concept of this.

The forum on fab is hilarious - all the men who have silhouette profile pics, dick pics taken over a toilet, profiles saying ‘will fill in later’ or ‘just ask’, sending one line messages who can’t understand why they’re not inundated with ‘females’. It makes for entertaining reading

LoveSandbanks · 17/03/2026 11:14

I work with a guy going through his second divorce. He’s 60 with 2 kids of 6 & 8 and genuinely thinks he’s going to have his pick of the mums at the school gate.

He’s not in bad shape for 60 but ffs who wants to get involved with a man of that age with 2 young daughters?

The majority of women at 60 are perfectly content with their friends and their peace and have no interest in taking care of a man (and they do require taking care of) so the 60 year old men are competing with 40 year old men for the dwindling number of women even vaguely interested in anything to do with them.

simply put there are far more men looking for relationships than women but men have had centuries of being able to pick simply because women had no access to money without them and they cannot get their heads around it now. It utterly bewilders them that we don’t need them.

RoseField1 · 17/03/2026 14:19

LoveSandbanks · 17/03/2026 11:14

I work with a guy going through his second divorce. He’s 60 with 2 kids of 6 & 8 and genuinely thinks he’s going to have his pick of the mums at the school gate.

He’s not in bad shape for 60 but ffs who wants to get involved with a man of that age with 2 young daughters?

The majority of women at 60 are perfectly content with their friends and their peace and have no interest in taking care of a man (and they do require taking care of) so the 60 year old men are competing with 40 year old men for the dwindling number of women even vaguely interested in anything to do with them.

simply put there are far more men looking for relationships than women but men have had centuries of being able to pick simply because women had no access to money without them and they cannot get their heads around it now. It utterly bewilders them that we don’t need them.

And they hate it! Some of the men posting on the fab forums are very incelly in their thinking - they call women entitled and arrogant for being picky, and seem to think it's actively wrong that the power balance is reversed on a NSA sex site and women hold all of it. They resent it so much, and their resentment of women drips through their posts, then they are confused when women don't want to have anything to do with them.

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