Aren’t the rich and privileged allowed to be upset?

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Prince Harry, Brooklyn Beckham, Liz Hurley…..I could go on.

There’s an attitude on MN that seems to be if you’re rich and privileged you’re not allowed to complain about anything. You’re not allowed to be upset or angry or hurt. You’re just ‘spoiled’, ‘whining’ or ‘playing the victim’.

It’s really unpleasant and I can’t help wonder if there’s an undercurrent of jealousy behind it.

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Of course they are allowed to be upset

But if they express that upset using social media and mainstream media
then the whole world is allowed to comment on it

At least she has access to medical help. Reading that latest A&E thread has been upsetting, learning what people go through. Cancer isn't fun for anyone, but add in the worry, fear and pain involved in battling for any kind of help or pain relief from the nhs and it puts things into perspective.

Brooklyn has grown up with a huge sense of entitlement. He’s frustrated at his lack of talent & success & is taking out his frustration on his parents. He hasn’t experienced trauma. He’s honestly pathetic.

I once posted about a child having issues at school. Once posters realised it was private school, some were very nasty. It’s pathetic. Maybe it’s jealousy, maybe they are just cunts. 🤷🏻‍♀️

It’s not just that they are rich, it’s that the gutter rag DM have made it their mission to destroy them and tell lies. And the very people who claim not to read the rag are the ones who believe the lies and write quotes about children with serpent tongues. The DM loves nothing more than families falling apart, especially if they have foreign wives.

Takes one to know one and all that.

I agree, I mean I'm not going to feel sorry for someone rich if they say they're skint, but even rich people aren't immune to other shit in life.

How do you know what he has and hasn't experienced? How can any of us know?

He could probably do with a dose of real life in my view.

This. They really aren't as important as the media makes them out to be. And the bottom line is that it's the media driving all this. The tabloids hype everything up out of all proportion because, hey, it sells newspapers and advertising.

@justtheotheronemrswembley So why does Liz Hurley pose for the press then? Showing off her body? Why do these people use the press when it suits them to promote their charities or, frankly, themselves? They like that well enough.

Harry has been told the judge doesn’t want his personal angst. It’s not evidence pertinent to the case. It’s feelings. They might well win but when they next do a photo shoot, ignore what they are selling! Films, books, lifestyle, fashion, music etc.

But what are you saying here? That because their work is in the public eye, doing photo shoots or whatever, that it’s ok for a newspaper to blag their medical records or tap their phone?

Your privacy is yours to give away as much or as little as you choose and sharing one thing doesn’t entitle other people to take what they want.

It’s like you posting a selfie on Facebook and then a stranger going through your phone and posting every photo you’ve ever taken of yourself and saying ‘well you posted one so it’s ok’.

If you post in a public space, then I think your image can be posted as you’ve not got the rights to it. And indeed it works that way for newspapers or photographers would not exist.

Excessive trawling of records no. Finding out some info isn’t wrong but some methods are wrong. Celebrities use the press. They don’t have to, but many choose to. They want to control everything but they cannot. That doesn’t mean I agree with illegal news gathering but the affected people all like publicity when it suits them. I want a free press but don’t want illegal methods. We also need the press to investigate certain people! It’s vital.

I have to say this case is very long. It’s scheduled for weeks and weeks! Harry wants his days in court.

Well the people like that are resented and insecure. I pity the lot of them 😂

I’ve read the same excuses used for Grok stripping women down to bikinis and posing them.
‘If you post your picture you have to accept men will want to manipulate it’ stuff.
Revolting stuff.

I suppose it can be easy to lose compassion for famous people because their lives are served up by the media as entertainment.

They're in a different mental category than eg. Sarah down the road whose life has fallen apart, who we'd sympathise with.

So it takes a bit more effort to put ourselves in their shoes. But of course we're all just people, with human feelings.

Do you think it makes it ok to make comments like that? Really. Give your head a wobble.

None of that makes any of those sorts of comments I'm referring to acceptable. And if you think it does you're part of the problem.

Because theyre already being scrutinised by the world, so rather than giving their side of the story to family and friends who are talking about what theyve noticed like a regular person would, they have the general public making assumptions and talking about things so give their opinion on the situation to the general public.

We have two strands to this. As far as I’m aware, when newspapers publish something untrue, there are strict regulations and they can be held to account. We have fairly tight regulations now. Then there’s how info is gathered. This case is really about that. All these people have chatty rat friends but they all want publicity when it suits them. That doesn’t mean info should be gathered illegally but the rich and famous are often famous because of publicity! They can keep quiet and not dress like a Nazi, take drugs or behave like a spoilt rich kid of course then there’s nothing to report!

ETA: OH GOD can MN ban the word "jealousy" it is fucking tedious

@Brefugee what word would be acceptable?

I don’t think it’s their wealth or privilege that people have issue with. I think it’s the very public way of airing their problems and looking for collective sympathy on social media. Anyone doing that (rich or poor) garners irritation from others.

Yes but I do feel sorry for young people who haven’t got a hope of buying a property even if they didn’t give up coffees and not have holidays or all the things they’re told to do but wouldn’t make the slightest difference if you need £80k for a deposit for a two bedroom flat etc.

However it doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t receive any sympathy or compassion for anything else going on in your life and that’s the point. Equally young people should be able to moan about property prices, that’s not a reflection on you it’s just how it is for them.

I hate that stuff about weeping about your diamond shoes being too tight thing. It’s fair enough if they’re complaining about not being able to afford a third house or a yacht etc. but not if they can’t afford their mortgage on a three bedroom in London or if their mother has just died or they have a manipulative husband. Having money doesn’t insulate you from worry or pain.

And sold him to the press and public at the same time. 🤷🏻‍♀️

We're just starting to see the consequences of the sharing of children's lives without their consent through those children who are now adults. All the money in the world isn't worth what is happening to these children and families. Could you imagine your childhood being sold for holidays, house renovations, etc?