Trump is blackmailing the world

[pandowo]

Just what the fuck ? If Europe give in to his demands because he’s now threatening tariffs then where does it end ? He’ll be claiming they need Mexico and Canada next FOR SECURITY and if anyone disagrees - Tariff’s !
I would really like to hear off trump supporters, do you think this is okay?

Agree. I read yesterday that nato and the allies military combined is bigger than the US.

so while the US thinks it has the “biggest and best” and constantly tells us so, when you compare the numbers NATO is stronger.

also as we’ve seen with healthcare, having the highest per capita spending on defence doesn’t necessarily mean the best…

I don't totally understand politics, but I've been saying for days Trump is as bad as Putin, ie he thinks he can just have land from another country. It might not cause a war with the same impact as Russia/Ukraine, but could have a major impact on the world in other ways.

🤣 what a fucking narc

We can have companies with heavy losses or going down in the short term. Depending on how specialised they are. But, as you very well say, if we take the initial hit, then we will trade elsewhere and US will suffer. We can show our teeth by stop using or buying from US corporations too. And by creating our own IT: own Facebook, own Amazon, own Paypal..... That would actually be quite a lot of $$$$$
I think allies do not want to burn all bridges on the account of one deranged president. But, if it comes to it, the world order will change. And it will not be on favour of the US. Neither will be turned back to what it was just like that. If it flips, it will stay so, I think.

That letter is absolutely awful....I had to check if it was real. Dreadful. How on earth can North America sit back while this giant man child tries to start a World War?! He is deluded...and the American system is broken if there is no mechanism to remove him from office. Surely most of the 340 people in America have no appetite for 'taking' Greenland?!!!

No. Norway.

Out of interest and not trying to start an argument, what did you like about him? Personally I never could stand him

That's not quite right. The extra $1 is paid by the customer who is importing the product, so it doesn't immeadiately impact the UK company selling the product.

If I sell an item to America the price of the item remains the same (allowing for currency fluctuations) but the customer will have to pay an extra 10% tax on when they receive the item - this is usually done via the freight company ie. DHL or UPS. The freight company then pass the money on to the US goverment.

I work for a company the exports a (very specialised) UK made product all over the world, including the US. Trumps hysterical tariffs are a total pain for us because they introduce so much uncertainty in to the market and make people reluctant to place orders until they really, really need to. However we are still in a relatively positive position as our competitors are mainly in China, and face much higher import taxes, so our products are still competatively priced. However - it might all change tomorrow!!

@Tiswa Sorry - I've just re-read what you've written and think that we're both actually saying the same thing!

Small point but I think Denmark supplies Ozempic/Wegovy to the US as it's made by a Danish company - Novo Nordisk. Mounjaro is made in the USA by Eli Lilly. However, Ozempic/wegovy is still big in the USA currently.

To me the main possible beneficiaries of this move by Trump are Russia and China. Russia because they want the break up of Europe/nato/the west generally. China will be licking their lips about possible trading deals; coming in from the cold with their copycat cheapo cars, phones, TVs etc

China don't just make the copycat stuff though - they're part of the supply chain for almost everything that has a battery or a piece of silicon in it. Every iPhone is currently made there which does make the heavy taxes on Chinese imports seem like a questionable idea - but then most of Trump's ideas make my head explode.

Dear Pigly Best President Ever of the United States of America. Your country is 250 years old. Greenland has salted fish older than that but no hamburgers so I'm afraid they were definitely there first. We understand you come from a young country and have immature, unformed beliefs, like those of an untutored child, but we can't be forced to share your delusions, particularly the one about bringing peace to a number of skirmishes and deserving a Nobel Peace Price. We cannot compete with FIFA and congratulate you on bringing Peace to Football. No President has ever brought so much Peace to Football before, everybody says so. It's a unique achievement and you are definitely The Best at that. Only you could have achieved such a win, There has never been a President like you before and never will be again. Everybody in the world says so. Be happy, we congratulate you, don't make us release our Huskies.

Well not him personally,he just got stuff done,didn’t take anyone’s shit,cracking down on migrants BUT he’s alienating the whole world,having to show you’re social media history to enter,tariffs,wanting to take over Greenland,(he only wants Greenland so him and his billionaire friends can build bunkers)

Utterly ridiculous statement!
NATO is meaningless without the US.
Europe has been outsourcing defence to the US done WW2 - so shouldn’t whine when the US decides how to conduct that defence.

Can’t we along with Europe make our own kind of nato? Trumps don’t want a part of it obviously, so let him carry on ?

Ha ha ha ha
Europe were fighting like ferrets in a sack over the Covid vaccine. Every country for itself. There is no ‘Europe’ just a game of smoke and mirrors with fat cat beaurocrsts with their snouts in the trough.

Apart from the fact that it would take conservatively 20 years to develop “an alternative” to NATO, I would be interested to see how you would pay for this.

Raise taxes?
Reduce spending on existing budgets - welfare, health, education, infrastructure, housing?
Create growth - not been possible for the last 20 years and increasingly unlikely if higher tariffs are imposed.

Which political party would be elected on a tax more, spend less platform?

The man is a bully and we need to stand up to bullies.

The scariest thing is that Putin is watching Trump and laughing and egging him on.

Trump is breaking up NATO. Putin would be delighted if Trump broke up NATO, the main reason Russia invaded Ukraine was that Putin thought Ukraine was going to join NATO and he didn't want NATO on his doorstep.

If Europe and US divide and are no longer supporting each other, then Putin becomes the most powerful, and he will calmly walk in to any country he chooses and take over. Do not underestimate how much the Russians believe they own all the countries that used to be under the influence of the USSR. Vast tracks of Eastern Europe, including East Germany and all of Central Asia are in their sights, and we would be fools to think otherwise.

Trump is playing right into Putin's hands.

Oh, and why is no-one talking about the millions of dollars of mineral reserves in Greenland? If this was just about security, then sending in a load of US troops to reinforce the existing US military base on Greenland would be enough and wouldn't cause any international tension. Trump doesn't want Greenland just to put troops there for security, he wants to own it, so he has the mineral rights.

Pigly is all about ownership. He wants to take Greenland for himself. Not for USA: he will believe it's his. He sees it. He wants it. He takes it. It's mine. He approaches everything in this way. Ask the women who have been unfortunate enough to encounter it. He should have been in prison long since.

Where do you get your expert observations from- Facebook and a bloke down the pub! The EU is the largest trading block in the world, hardly insignificant!

He is a petulant wotsit-hued man toddler!

Yes!!!! Let's go with this!
I think the EU already has an agreement. But a whole Europe one should be our saving grace indeed.

I’m pleased with Mark Carneys Davos speech and happy he’s refusing to pay Trump to sit on the peace board!

NATO is practically useless without USA. Just numbers - arms, soldiers, air power etc. He knows it, that's why he can be so forceful. Nobody expected USA to betray it. He has, as he says, all the cards. Bastard.