I bet Mary had to source her own Donkey for the trip to Bethlehem…..

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and was more than a little surprised that cattle and sheep were welcomed at the Nativity but no women.

You say light hearted fun but it comes across very strongly as yet another attempt to pull men down

Exactly it wasn’t recorded how useful or not he was so if we can’t say he may of been a great support how can we say he wasn’t

You do know a woman can also support men

Ah yes, men. The real victims of history.

Babes, they've had 2000 years of main character energy, I'm sure they can handle a few jokes about the nativity.

No one said they’re the real victims of history

😂

Bless.

No-one here can really help how you see a thread that's been started for a giggle.

Little old lady careful rider (with not so careful teenage grandson)

Don’t tell me this light hearted thread has descended into an argument already!

Surely we can have one thread where men aren't being centered in the discussion or projections about their imagined feelings pandered to? It's a joke thread about the nativity, your "not all men" interjection was totally unnecessary.

The Nativity was a load of bollocks anyway.

A woman conceiving a child without having sex is bad enough.

But THREE wise men???

Nah! 👀🤣

🤣🤣🤣

I can see it’s been done for a giggle but I can also see the intent behind it as well

Good for you.

So are you going to stick around and have a laugh, or just piss on everyone else's humour?

And you just know those Wise Men went round Tesco Bethlehem five minutes to closing time and grabbed the first things they could find as a gift. “Myrrh, myrrh, I’m sure she said something about myrrh last year…”

DH is chuckling away

although he does claim that men can do themselves down all by themselves if needs must

Fun thread. It’s made me smile.

Apart from “source” her own donkey. Unless Mary was working in some 1AD jargon-tastic office job or the University of Bethlehem admin dept, she’d have bought, rented, found or borrowed the donkey.

I doubt she got her Virgin Birth ducks in a row either. Or complained that the Archangel Gabriel was gaslighting her, or that the Magi were love-bombing pass-ag narcissists.

She probably didn't have a donkey. They were poor people who has to travel at a time lots of people had to travel, and would have been likely that they didn't own a donkey. They'd have been looked on with disdain as having a baby unwed, so would have been bottom of the pile for people offering to lend theirs.

What I do wonder is what happened to the wise men's gifts when they had to flee from Herod to Egypt. Did they take the gold, frankincense and myrrh with them, or was it left behind in the hurry? The gold at any rate would have been useful.

We don't know how many men. All we know is three gifts.

"Virgin" conception but three random men show up bearing gifts. Mama Mia, Bethlehem edition.

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I've always thought that the Nativity scene depicts one of the most uncomfortable and grime ridden delivery units ever.

It's also so romanticised, if that is the right word and I am such a cynical old codger anyway. 🤣 No graphic descriptions of Mary in labour stripped from the waist down, waters flooding down her legs, screaming blue murder and shitting herself as things progress. She apparently just breathed him out while fully clothed, no mess at all.

Baby Jesus also always looks serene, never covered in blood and gunk and looking like a wizened old prune like many newborns do.

Did she ever deliver the placenta? Was she equally serene there and just breathed that out too?

I always think there is a lot missing from the Nativity story and I embellished it with my own details.

The whole nativity, virgin birth thing throws a spanner in the works of most religious pro-life debates too. "Abstinence is the only guarantee..." and "Don't have sex if you don't want to get pregnant..."

Mary looking down on them like

Joseph pet behold I am with child
Bloody ell our Mary what will thee father say and me only on a carpenters wage…
He’ll have ya knackers for a coin purse lad, give us a minute, I’ll come up wi summat…

Father, Father I’m with child, twont our Joseph mind, ‘‘twas a angel from above…
same thing happened with ya mother girl… ya’s all special, praise be Amen

For the record Mary was also the result of a virgin birth….