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Do white British people know why they are in the UK?

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boltj · 14/11/2025 02:07

Do they wonder why their ancestors didn’t move away to USA, Canada, Australia, NZ etc in colonial times or recently?

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WalterMittysPuppet · 14/11/2025 07:55

What did you ask ChatGPT to come up with THAT 😆

My ancestors were immigrants from Odessa. They fled from anti-Jewish persecution in the Russian Empire in the late 1890's/early 1900's...they even anglicised the family name.

Genevieva · 14/11/2025 07:59

Toseland · 14/11/2025 07:53

Yes, I know why I'm here. Somebody told me once "we're all immigrants" and I was intrigued. I'm a Cockney, one of the last of them. I've been tracing my family tree. I've got back as far as 1650, all my family were living in Whitechapel, Spitalfields, Stepney and Bow. I've spoken to my elderly relatives. They fought in the Wars. There was a great community. They told me tales of everyone looking out for each other, how clean the streets were, how proud they were to be British.
It's just a shame for me that the Cockney indigenous land and culture has been destroyed and no longer exists.

A friend with a similar back flag round to you sent me this quixotic speech about being of Cockney stock. You’ll be in tears by the end, so watch it when you aren’t at work.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=8T5rZLPwoKc&t=1804s&pp=2AGMDpACAdIHCQkeAaO1ajebQw%3D%3D

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 14/11/2025 07:59

My mother’s father’s family emigrated here about 150 years ago from France - her had a job as a hairdresser to Queen Victoria! . My father’s father emigrated here about 120 years ago from Jamaica. Both grandfathers married more established scottish girls, although they had both (coincidently) been born in S America.

phantomofthepopera · 14/11/2025 08:04

Why are you assuming they didn’t? Some of my ancestors did move abroad. My grandparents emigrated to Australia. My great-grandfather moved to Canada, but joined the CEF when WWI started, and ended up back here. Another great grandfather worked and lived all over the world.

Remember that we all have 8 great grandparents and 16 great great grandparents. It would be highly unlikely that every one of them ended up moving. But even if they did, it’s possible to be a white British person in the UK and still have had ancestors who have emigrated.

Only4nomore · 14/11/2025 09:08

Because they liked it here

CandiedPrincess · 14/11/2025 12:07

Batoutofhellish · 14/11/2025 07:27

That’s a huge assumption. Most people didn’t have the means or anywhere to go even if they did leave. Family support networks were much stronger then too.

I’ve spent decades working on family history and genealogy. I feel okay making assumptions.

CandiedPrincess · 14/11/2025 12:08

IcedPurple · 14/11/2025 07:47

Unlikely. Even now, with easy transport and communications, most people do not move to the other side of the world unless there's a good reason. 200 years ago, it would have been way worse. If you hae a 'great life', why would you go in a long, dangerous and unpleasant voyage to face great uncertainty on the other side of the world, probably never seeing your home or loved ones again?

NZ or Australia is a long way to leave a 'great life' behind.

And yet records show that many many people did it.

Australia was actively marketed (misleadingly so) as utopia.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 14/11/2025 12:12

I have a Saxon surname so assume that my long-ago relations moved here from the near continent and liked it.

GinkoRebelFoxes · 14/11/2025 12:17

Busy being worked into an early grave in the mines, or having children until they expired.

Some of my family went to Australia; not their choice. We found their transportation records.

IcedPurple · 14/11/2025 12:26

CandiedPrincess · 14/11/2025 12:08

And yet records show that many many people did it.

Australia was actively marketed (misleadingly so) as utopia.

Yes, many did. But they were still a very small proportion of the overall population. The majority of people prefer to stay in their home country unless they have a very good reason to move.

JamesClyman · 14/11/2025 14:05

From what I can see from my family tree, we were always able to make a good living in the UK so we never felt the need to leave. That and one very dubious ancestor turned King's Evidence in 1830.

NoStrangertotheRain · 14/11/2025 15:39

Mrswhiskers87 · 14/11/2025 06:37

You should find out what white privilege means. It’s not about being rich necessarily.

I know what is meant by white privilege.

RedTagAlan · 14/11/2025 16:02

Evolution, tribal behavior, migration drivers and technology.

As a species, we evolved in Africa, all had dark skin. Migrated in waves, other human species went extinct.

Those who migrated north eventually lost Melanin, and we went from being hunter gatherers to farmers, thus removing much of the drive to migrate. And technology helped us to survive longer.

And here we are.

Edit. Forgot to say, as a species we developed the notion of countries, and language developed.

Once our species had language, and the languages were different, we all sort of stayed where were.

Noodledog · 14/11/2025 16:44

CandiedPrincess · 14/11/2025 07:18

A lot of people moved because they were in search of a better life. I assume they already had a great life here.

What a strange thing to say. Most people's ancestors were living in poverty and working long hours in gruelling jobs.

newusernamex1000 · 14/11/2025 17:33

@Mrswhiskers87please explain it

golemmings · 14/11/2025 17:46

I'm in the UK because abortion wasn't legal in ireland and she wasn't married. She came to England for less judgement.

I remained here because my adopted mum was ill and being 26hr flight away from a woman who was under palliative care for years was too far.

Blarghism · 14/11/2025 18:13

I'm assuming because they didn't want to, were scared to, were not religious zealots, were not transported, did then moved back and/or they did not have the money.

Mothership4two · 14/11/2025 18:35

I wonder where @boltj lives and if they've emigrated away from the UK?

blackheartsgirl · 14/11/2025 18:52

Terrytheweasel · 14/11/2025 05:20

We descend from the huguenots, that’s all I know. We had to flee France and settled in Spitalfields.

Same!!

SouthernNights59 · 14/11/2025 20:21

Yamamm · 14/11/2025 05:54

Even 100 years ago most people hardly moved a few miles away in their lives.
The rest of the world would have been known about through books and maps.
We were mostly peasants!

All of my great grandparents were very ordinary people, but they all moved from the UK to the other side of the world at some stage - and that was much more than 100 years ago.

Terrytheweasel · 15/11/2025 00:38

blackheartsgirl · 14/11/2025 18:52

Same!!

We might be related 🤣

SoftBalletShoes · 15/11/2025 01:07

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 14/11/2025 06:18

From my experience of Americans, I would guess more optimistic/extraverted people were more inclined to immigrate.

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Or just really, really poor. Where I am, Massachusetts, the vast majority of white people's ancestors came from Ireland or southern Italy. Those places were HARD, way back when. Immigrants came here from those two places out of total desperation, and many didn't survive the journey.

Firebird83 · 15/11/2025 08:37

My Cornish family did emigrate to the US but two branches came back during the Great Depression.

Daisymay8 · 16/11/2025 07:11

My family are British but they moved around a lot for work - DM Cornish, DF Bradford ended up in Scotland

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