The top 10% of taxpayers contribute 60% of income tax...

[MsPinkMarshmallow]

I'm fed up of hearing that "high earners" will be targeted by the next budget.

The top 10% of taxpayers pay 60% of income tax.

Don't piss them off. They'll just leave the UK or work less so they're taxed less.

Some more stats: in 2024-25, the top 1% of income tax payers earned 13.3 per cent of total income and paid 28.2 per cent of income tax

35% of adults in the UK pay no tax at all

More from the Taxpayers Alliance here:

https://www.taxpayersalliance.com/briefing_share_of_income_tax_paid_by_percentile

<stands back and awaits kicking>

What is lacking compassion in my statement? It is simply the truth.
we need a strong benefit state for those that need it. We need strategies to get those back in work that can.

Yes, and as a proportion of their means, the poorest pay more taxes than any other group.

Most wealth tax positions argue for taxes on capital of ten million pounds and up.

If your pension is ten million pounds then, yes, we should tax that.

This!! My property is worth £280-300k and is in band F. They were built after the current banding valuations and are in far higher bands than older properties which are twice the size and worth twice as much.

Your tax also pounds also help those with cancer though, but with less of the glory you clearly bask in.

Good bit of backtracking there.
Also, your biased opinion isn't 'the truth'.

Nope. None. Entirely consistent.

Sure, suddenly you're categorising benefit claimants into your idea of worthiness.

I've always been happy to pay income tax, but now with twice the number of lower income households supporting Reform as higher income households, if they vote in a Reform government there are millions of centrist/centre left higher rate taxpayers who will be taking their skills and money elsewhere.

They might not leave, but they might well decide it isn't worth working that bit harder to be in the top 10% any more. Foolish in my opinion. Spread the tax take more evenly and scrap the cliff edges.

I do. As a mechanism to get back on your feet. Not as a lifestyle choice.

Ask yourself why this demographic is drawn to reform, and ponder if inequality is somehow part of it.

It's not up to you to determine who should receive support.

The tax burden is spread more evenly by taxing higher earners more though.

No it isn't. You're talking about as a proportion of income. But that isn't spreading taxation evenly.

Of course it is, and the major political parties and the media are all at fault. We had a more left wing and at one time pretty popular version of Labour focusing on equality and alleviating poverty with Jeremy Corbyn and the media tore it down. Whenever Reeves tries to suggest any more tax it's torn down. And Reeves is about as left wing as Theresa May.

Who really runs the country is not the government.

Yep, that was my point. I know mumsnet generally hates high earners so I wasn't expecting anything other than a kicking!

I was quoting from the taxpayers alliance.

So maybe it should have said "35% of adults in the UK pay no income tax at all"

We all pay VAT on loads of things, there is no choice.

our higher tax brackets are already scandi with none of the sweetener

Scandinavian levels of services means everyone gets out what they put in

people don’t want that here. They want those with the ‘broadest’ shoulders to pay for everything because they ‘use the roads’ and ‘our NHS’ and to just be happy with that

Any thread where someone who earns over 100k bemoans their childcare bill they are told to fuck off because they don’t need need funded hours

in Sweden you can get a tax credit to use for private schools if you choose; as you’ve paid for ‘education’. There is absolutely no means testing for child benefit and childcare. Targeted support is available for low income households- but everyone gets a piece of the cake

Well, same could be said for anyone posting on this thread! That’s my opinion….that I am entitled to have.

MN doesn't 'generally hate high earners', but folk don't take kindly to high earners saying how hard done by they are when there are people really struggling.

It's a meaningless and uninformed opinion, but yes, crack on.

I really wish we had a proper functional labour party, but I fear I can only dream.

No. It really, isn’t. Let’s leave it here.

It’s worth looking to Scotland and their experience of attempting to raise revenue by increasing higher tax rates.