Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor : Why did the Queen protect him & was she complicit?

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Queen Elizabeth was very well aware of the seriousness of the allegations against Andrew, and of the testimony of his victim. She very likely knew there were more allegations against him by more victims. Yet she still protected him. She refused to take any action, other than bailing him out by paying paid out millions of pounds to settle legal claims against him by his victim.

Queen Elizabeth was part of the culture of denial & cover-up of serious crimes. Is this a serious stain on her reputation as monarch, and should there now be an enquiry into what she knew, and when, before we start putting up statues to this woman?

Very true. She didn't stand a chance. I wouldn't marry my daughter into the RF if it they possessed the last man on earth.

Agree, totally. The royal family are despicable.

I've not followed the situation in great detail. Has he ever been found guilty of anything or is it still at the accusations stage? If the latter, then shes not really going to throw her son under the bus for accusations.

KC appears to think differently. TLQ paid off Virgina Guiffre to the tune of £12m.

paid out of court settlemnt ($12 million) but admitted no guilt. It was NEVER going to a case in a US Courtroom

As far as his service career goes whilst it's widley acknowledged he wasn"t a plesant individual at all he does seem to have jumped through all the hoops etc required to hold down as I understand it the rank of commander.

That's senior officer level but quite near the bottom, below captain (naval version thereof) and well below the various Admiral tiers.

It's promotions after leaving that that are definitely honorary, the Royal involved then usually moves up in (honorary) rank in step with the fast movers in his/her cohort who have stayed in the relevant service.

I don't believe the amount of the out of court settlement was ever confirmed, though various newspapers have speculated. My understanding is that TLQ donated £2m to a domestic abuse charity as part of the agreement, but again, don't know if that is official.

It also seems to be quite unusual in that the NDA that went with it seems to have been time limited and didn't prevent the publication of the book.

Agree with your disgust at the amount of valuables in Buckingham Palace because I feel the same disgust at the vast wealth of the Church of England and the Vatican when these are supposed to be the Christians. On a smaller scale I despise multi millionaires asking us to dig deep to help their sponsored charities. Thing is none of us would feel any benefit if all their worldly goods were flogged off.

Imagine deliberately signing your kids up to live like that

I think many Aristo families, especially 40 years ago still thought they lived in the era of the Tudor court. It's all about ingratiating yourself with The Crown. Diana was a 3rd daughter too, so completely disposable for any other purpose.

Was Diana herself against the marriage at the time, though? I never got that impression

Of course she wasn’t. If she had been forced into it she certainly would have said so later when she unburdened herself about every other thing. She did say she was having second thoughts in the days beforehand and her sisters said it was too late to back out, but that isn’t the same thing.

So just badges then (not earned - just for show).

She was squirrelling money away into offshore accounts

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/revealed-queen-private-estate-invested-offshore-paradise-papers

The duchy money belongs to the Nation.

The queen was also his mother. He her favourite child. Andrew likely spun a story and like any mum, the queen, would be prone to want to believe her child.

It is also a family that has many salacious rumours spun in tabloids. So was reasonable to take the stance she did.

keep in mind, the information we have today is not the information we (and the queen) were privy to.

Does have the Falklands service and poss something else from his helicopter days but the others are part of the job with his HRH style and any honorary military association eg The Guards. Phillip was Colonel in Chief of a Guards Regiment but I think Andrew got refused due to his publicity.

Yes it will be interesting to see who they told and what was done about it (covered up). I hope there will be a full investigation.

Yep, the RF is the definitive model of self preservation and the Queen was actually one of the worst of the bunch. Their wealth amounts to waaay more than the public are led to believe - and that's bad enough.

Duchy money belongs to the Nation (not one family):

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/republic/pages/4660/attachments/original/1740398298/Ditch_the_Duchies_Report_February_2025_FINAL.pdf?1740398298

Highly recommend Norman Baker’s ‘And what do you do’ or Graham Smith’s ‘Abolish the Monarchy’ for anyone interested in learning more about Royal finances and all the other myths that get peddled (tourism, the utility of them as patrons, that they don’t have any influence on government etc).

Yes, read them and also recommend. Personally I think both should be compulsory reading in schools.

I do laugh when they give each other medals and ribbons. .

It’s like playing dress up for adults.

“Here Son, for having been born my son, and been my son now for 30 years, you get this medal.”

“Here daughter in law, you get this medal for being my husband’s wife for 20 years, well done you.”

It is all a little bit mad.

“Last month, the German magazine Der Spiegel said it had found state papers documenting how the queen had asked for two horses as a gift while on a state visit to West Germany in 1978. The country’s president approved the gift in the interests of good relations, despite it being the most expensive gift given to a visiting head of state since the end of the second world war.”

In regard to the grift, Andrew has grown up with it. Seen it all his life.

Agree. Norman Baker’s book is a real eye opener!

To be fair, a medal for lasting 20 years beginning treated like a painted doll and brood mare for the RF seems like small compensation!