First cousin 1 x removed?

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Can someone explain in simple terms!

I have a DNA match who is a first cousin 1 x removed. His dad was adopted and so I’m trying to work out who his dads birth parents are in relation to mine as he doesn’t know any of the family

anyone good at this?

A cousin's child or your parent's cousin.

So your first cousin once removed is either the parent or a child of your first cousin. Does that help?

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If he is a first cousin once removed, his parents are your cousins. His grandparents are your uncle / aunt.

Not the parent as that's her aunt/ uncle. It would be her parent's cousin.

It's your first cousins kid. So your uncle or aunt is their grandparent.

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This tea towel explains it (hope it loads). I find it really interesting!

The ages don’t work at all

my uncle for instance was born in 1945
the first cousin 1 x removed was born in 1980, his dad was born in 1944
so my uncle can’t be his dads dad

Would it work that his dad was born to one of my grandparents siblings then? That’s the only way the ages fit

No, their parent is OP's first cousin. OP's aunt or uncle is the person's grandparent.

This confuses me as well.

I think it has to either be that his dad is your cousin, so his grandparents would be your uncle and aunt, or he is the cousin of one of your parents, so his dad is the sibling of one of your grandparents.

You're saying the same thing as me!

I'm correcting a post that says a cousin once removed could be her cousin's parent. A cousin's parent is your aunt or uncle.

His dad must be a sibling of my grandparents for the ages to work
which actually makes it a lot more simple to work out who one of his birth parents could be

Once removed means one different generation to you.

Don't get too hung up on ages. If there are many siblings, their children will have vastly different age ranges.

Also 'first cousin once removed' is a suggested relationship. It may be something different.

Not necessarily.

I have a cousin once removed - her father is my cousin.

If she was writing this, she’d say “I have a cousin once removed - her father is my uncle, and my father is her cousin”

Yes - the ‘once removed’ can go up the tree as well as down. Look at the blue boxes on the picture I posted earlier.

That’s the thing, my mums side is v simple
her mum had one sister
her dad is ruled out due to location/other reasons
so it must be my grans sisters child

Yes, sorry, ignore me. It's the parent of your second cousin that is your first cousin once removed. Although, have had a couple of gins so don't take that as gospel either!

Your first cousin but one generation removed from you either up or down. So work out who your cousins are and then it’s either their children, or it’s your parents cousins.

I’ve looked and we have 6% shared DNA
my Dads sisters granddaughter has 5% shared DNA so slightly (just) closer match

Just to put a spanner in the works…. It’s also possible that although people say they are sisters or brothers or parents particularly during that time of the 20th century, they may not be.

I know someone who thought they had a sister who was actually their aunt (their mum had given birth young & the child was brought up as their sister). And someone else who said they had a brother but he was their son.

So many things were hidden back then

How do you know this person is your first cousin once removed? DNA sites such as Ancestry will guess the most likely relationship based on the amount of DNA you share. This doesn't mean this is how you are definitely related there will be other possibilities. How many CMs do you have matching? I will try and find a chart that shows possible relationships.

Based on this site dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4
these are the possible relationships with 6%-

• 84%Great-Great-Aunt / Uncle Half Great-Aunt / Uncle Half 1C 1C1R Half Great-Niece / Nephew Great-Great-Niece / Nephew
• 14%Half GG-Niece / Nephew † Half GG-Aunt / Uncle † 2C Half 1C1R 1C2R
• 2%Great-Grandparent † Great-Grandchild † Half Aunt / Uncle † Half Niece / Nephew † Great-Aunt / Uncle 1C Great-Niece / Nephew

Some you will be able to discount due to your ages, you will then need to look at the remaining possibilities.

It’s the only option that makes sense (without giving too much more personal info)

my first cousin 1 x removed (I know that relationship) shared 5% with me (377cm)
this guy shares 6% - 405cm (can’t test his dad as he’s died)