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Hypothetical Situation- query re birth certificate

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TheBewleySisters · 28/10/2025 09:41

If a woman was widowed and then had a baby as a result of a brief affair with a married man, could she conceal the fact she was widowed when she went to register the birth? Pass off the baby as if it was her late husband’s and so the birth certificate would name the late husband as the baby’s father? Sorry, to be clear- not tell the registrar that she was a widow, implying her husband was still alive?

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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 28/10/2025 09:45

Presumably the husband's death was registered? In which case, no, the widow cannot do that.

Also, do not consider falsifying a child's birth certificate. DNA tests will allow the child to find out the truth very easily (whether they go searching or not).

GreenFrogYellow · 28/10/2025 09:46

No the birth certificate would become invalid even if it got past the registrar

Coffeeishot · 28/10/2025 09:47

Well the man's death will have been registered, so unless he died in a short space of time he can't be named as father.

Desmondhasabarrow · 28/10/2025 09:48

Is this for a book you’re writing or something?

I don’t believe registrars routinely check the death registers before recording the names of the husbands, so yes the widow could obtain the birth certificate.

It would be easily proven to be false if anybody ever checked, but I suppose that’s unlikely to happen.

SheilaFentiman · 28/10/2025 10:01

Is your scenario one where the widow got pregnant from her lover very shortly before/after her husband died?

TheBewleySisters · 28/10/2025 10:03

Yes, it’s a potential plot in a novel. I did think that if you go to register a birth the registrar does not ask you to prove your husband is alive, nor do they routinely check to see if he is dead. Obviously it’s a grave error to do this, just wondered if it was possible.

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TheBewleySisters · 28/10/2025 10:04

@SheilaFentimanno, the husband has been dead a few months.

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TheBewleySisters · 28/10/2025 10:06

I mean, in real life when you present yourself to register the birth, the registrar is unlikely to say “and is your husband still alive?”

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SheilaFentiman · 28/10/2025 10:15

Would the registrar typing in the details of the marriage and/or the late husband's details (DOB etc)bring up the registered death of the husband, though?

Livelaughlurgy · 28/10/2025 10:19

I know it's a source of frustration and pain that dead men can't be named on the birth cert so I'm a assuming they know

SheilaFentiman · 28/10/2025 10:52

Livelaughlurgy · 28/10/2025 10:19

I know it's a source of frustration and pain that dead men can't be named on the birth cert so I'm a assuming they know

I think they can if there was a marriage.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-06-17/debates/668DA4F8-BD49-4C0D-8D5A-4E89EED7D36A/RegistrationOfBirths(InclusionOfDeceasedParents)

ETA but unlike in the OP's novel, the dates of the pregnancy and of the death would be consistent IRL, of course.

OneSunnyGuide · 05/11/2025 16:51

TheBewleySisters · 28/10/2025 10:04

@SheilaFentimanno, the husband has been dead a few months.

If the husband died within the timescale of the pregnancy then yes she could register the baby in the deceased husbands name. I think that
it used to be the law (no idea if it still is) that the husband was assumed to be the father of any children born unless there was evidence to prove he was not. Im assuming that before DNA that certain blood groups would be impossible which could identify that the husband (dead or alive) could not have fathered the child.

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