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Why do People act like this in Politics?

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Libra1509 · 17/10/2025 01:59

I hear endless talk about how Keir Starmer is “destroying the country” and is the “worst PM ever” and it just makes me feel irritated.

Not because I support Starmer but because this sort of rhetoric happens against all politicans.

Before Starmer, people were saying how the Tory PMs whether Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss or Sunak were “incompetent” or “evil”. Funnily enough, as soon as Cameron left office people said May was the worst PM ever - worse than Cameron; as soon as she left office people said that “May may have been bad but not as bad as Johnson”; as soon as Johnson left Truss was branded the worst ever and Johnson was said to be better; now people say things like “at least Truss wasn’t as bad as Starmer”. And it’s that word “at least” that’s crucial here, it’s like people are always wanting to castigate the incumbent PM as “the worst ever” or “evil” or “very useless” and love to employ exaggerative terminology like that. Rest assured, Starmer’s successor - whether Labour, Tory, Reform or other - will likely be branded as the “worst PM ever” and Starmer will be contrasted favourably with the same people conveniently ignoring how just a few months prior they were claiming he was the worst PM ever. Then, what the new PM is succeeded by the next one, the same thing will happen.

And, then on Twitter and other social media sites there are endless users - including politicians from opposing parties, celebrities and ordinary people - who say things like “Britain has fallen”; “we need Trump to save us”; “we are live in a dictatorship” etc and this language is used against Labour but was also used against the Tories and again is just exaggerative terminology cooked up by people who dislike certain politicians and the policies they promote.

I want to understand why people act like this and why they feel the need to be dystopic and exaggerative and pessimistic. Even if Britain has had “bad” politicians, you couldn’t objectively argue Starmer is the worst PM ever or that Johnson was a tyrant etc.

Have things always been this way with people being so political? If you recall the pre-Internet age, were British people constantly claiming that the ruling government was the “worst ever” or that Britain was set to be bankrupted or that it “had fallen” or is it a recent thing?

On Twitter, Liz Truss comes across as really angry and radical with her posts and exaggerative terminology criticising the state of the world - and think what you may think of her - but in interviews or podcasts she comes across as more civil, more mature, less angry etc.

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Realrobin · 17/10/2025 03:24

Not sure but maybe part of it is that it feels like the UK has been declining on multiple fronts since the 2008 financial crash. When Blair came in he was hugely popular, then obviously the Iraq war put an end to that. His term ended in 2007 just before the crash. I seem to remember Gordon Brown was not unpopular at the beginning and he had to navigate the crash. Imo no subsequent PM has managed to meet the expectations of the electorate, in part because in the words of TM there's no 'magic money tree'.

I also think perhaps people need and want someone to blame for their misery. The PM seems like an obvious choice. People see their lives getting worse and feel that nothing is being done to address it. It is no surprise that people find characters like Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage appealing, because they're big and loud and look like they're radical enough to sort things out. But of course they don't, because they can't and they generally balls things up in multiple ways. Public scrutiny is higher than ever, cynicism reigns and hopes are continually dashed over and over.

TeenagersAngst · 17/10/2025 05:53

I think people are people and would have behaved like this at any point in time if they’d been subjected to endless opinions and a 24 hour rolling news media and social media.

Nolletimiere · 17/10/2025 05:55

Libra1509 · 17/10/2025 01:59

I hear endless talk about how Keir Starmer is “destroying the country” and is the “worst PM ever” and it just makes me feel irritated.

Not because I support Starmer but because this sort of rhetoric happens against all politicans.

Before Starmer, people were saying how the Tory PMs whether Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss or Sunak were “incompetent” or “evil”. Funnily enough, as soon as Cameron left office people said May was the worst PM ever - worse than Cameron; as soon as she left office people said that “May may have been bad but not as bad as Johnson”; as soon as Johnson left Truss was branded the worst ever and Johnson was said to be better; now people say things like “at least Truss wasn’t as bad as Starmer”. And it’s that word “at least” that’s crucial here, it’s like people are always wanting to castigate the incumbent PM as “the worst ever” or “evil” or “very useless” and love to employ exaggerative terminology like that. Rest assured, Starmer’s successor - whether Labour, Tory, Reform or other - will likely be branded as the “worst PM ever” and Starmer will be contrasted favourably with the same people conveniently ignoring how just a few months prior they were claiming he was the worst PM ever. Then, what the new PM is succeeded by the next one, the same thing will happen.

And, then on Twitter and other social media sites there are endless users - including politicians from opposing parties, celebrities and ordinary people - who say things like “Britain has fallen”; “we need Trump to save us”; “we are live in a dictatorship” etc and this language is used against Labour but was also used against the Tories and again is just exaggerative terminology cooked up by people who dislike certain politicians and the policies they promote.

I want to understand why people act like this and why they feel the need to be dystopic and exaggerative and pessimistic. Even if Britain has had “bad” politicians, you couldn’t objectively argue Starmer is the worst PM ever or that Johnson was a tyrant etc.

Have things always been this way with people being so political? If you recall the pre-Internet age, were British people constantly claiming that the ruling government was the “worst ever” or that Britain was set to be bankrupted or that it “had fallen” or is it a recent thing?

On Twitter, Liz Truss comes across as really angry and radical with her posts and exaggerative terminology criticising the state of the world - and think what you may think of her - but in interviews or podcasts she comes across as more civil, more mature, less angry etc.

You are clearly in the minority OP. Bad luck, sorry.

Keir Starmer favourability, October 2025
Opinion towards Keir Starmer is largely unchanged since last month’s favourability ratings, with just 21% of Britons holding a favourable opinion of the prime minister and 72% seeing him unfavourably.
This leaves Starmer with a net a favourability rating of -51, which is the lowest recorded by YouGov so far.

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LavenderBlue19 · 17/10/2025 06:00

I'm not even sure it's real people most of the time. There is a huge social media campaign going on to destabilise the West using bot farms, and part of that is this very divisive politics. You see the same phrases over and over again, and actually they don't make much sense. It's just designed to stir people up.

Nolletimiere · 17/10/2025 06:02

LavenderBlue19 · 17/10/2025 06:00

I'm not even sure it's real people most of the time. There is a huge social media campaign going on to destabilise the West using bot farms, and part of that is this very divisive politics. You see the same phrases over and over again, and actually they don't make much sense. It's just designed to stir people up.

Isn’t that a little disrespectful to voters who genuinely have a grievance with the government of the day?

Chiseltip · 17/10/2025 09:52

Libra1509 · 17/10/2025 01:59

I hear endless talk about how Keir Starmer is “destroying the country” and is the “worst PM ever” and it just makes me feel irritated.

Not because I support Starmer but because this sort of rhetoric happens against all politicans.

Before Starmer, people were saying how the Tory PMs whether Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss or Sunak were “incompetent” or “evil”. Funnily enough, as soon as Cameron left office people said May was the worst PM ever - worse than Cameron; as soon as she left office people said that “May may have been bad but not as bad as Johnson”; as soon as Johnson left Truss was branded the worst ever and Johnson was said to be better; now people say things like “at least Truss wasn’t as bad as Starmer”. And it’s that word “at least” that’s crucial here, it’s like people are always wanting to castigate the incumbent PM as “the worst ever” or “evil” or “very useless” and love to employ exaggerative terminology like that. Rest assured, Starmer’s successor - whether Labour, Tory, Reform or other - will likely be branded as the “worst PM ever” and Starmer will be contrasted favourably with the same people conveniently ignoring how just a few months prior they were claiming he was the worst PM ever. Then, what the new PM is succeeded by the next one, the same thing will happen.

And, then on Twitter and other social media sites there are endless users - including politicians from opposing parties, celebrities and ordinary people - who say things like “Britain has fallen”; “we need Trump to save us”; “we are live in a dictatorship” etc and this language is used against Labour but was also used against the Tories and again is just exaggerative terminology cooked up by people who dislike certain politicians and the policies they promote.

I want to understand why people act like this and why they feel the need to be dystopic and exaggerative and pessimistic. Even if Britain has had “bad” politicians, you couldn’t objectively argue Starmer is the worst PM ever or that Johnson was a tyrant etc.

Have things always been this way with people being so political? If you recall the pre-Internet age, were British people constantly claiming that the ruling government was the “worst ever” or that Britain was set to be bankrupted or that it “had fallen” or is it a recent thing?

On Twitter, Liz Truss comes across as really angry and radical with her posts and exaggerative terminology criticising the state of the world - and think what you may think of her - but in interviews or podcasts she comes across as more civil, more mature, less angry etc.

Haven't you heard about Digital I.D. ?

In this case, yes, the rhetoric IS true.

We are at a time which will be discussed as a turning point in history. The loss of freedom and autonomy. The surrender of liberty to the state. Our children will wonder what the fuck we did to them.

Pinkearedcows · 17/10/2025 10:05

Chiseltip · 17/10/2025 09:52

Haven't you heard about Digital I.D. ?

In this case, yes, the rhetoric IS true.

We are at a time which will be discussed as a turning point in history. The loss of freedom and autonomy. The surrender of liberty to the state. Our children will wonder what the fuck we did to them.

I am not a fan of digital ID, but this is a tad over-dramatic.

Chiseltip · 17/10/2025 10:17

Pinkearedcows · 17/10/2025 10:05

I am not a fan of digital ID, but this is a tad over-dramatic.

It really isn't.

Have you done any research into what the government's plans are for Digital I.D?

Do you know who will have access to your data?

It's not in the least dramatic.

Please.do some research on this. People with your level of apathy are the problem.

Pinkearedcows · 17/10/2025 10:19

Chiseltip · 17/10/2025 10:17

It really isn't.

Have you done any research into what the government's plans are for Digital I.D?

Do you know who will have access to your data?

It's not in the least dramatic.

Please.do some research on this. People with your level of apathy are the problem.

People with your level of apathy are the problem

Oh, OK. Thank you for the discussion.

EasternStandard · 17/10/2025 10:24

LavenderBlue19 · 17/10/2025 06:00

I'm not even sure it's real people most of the time. There is a huge social media campaign going on to destabilise the West using bot farms, and part of that is this very divisive politics. You see the same phrases over and over again, and actually they don't make much sense. It's just designed to stir people up.

Surely this applies to the pre GE surge for Labour too if you believe this. Or is it only when it’s not for the party you’re backing.

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