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Would you leave UK if Reeves starts taxing wealth

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Movingmarble · 16/10/2025 12:57

Just that really. Wondering if anyone else considering it. DCs both at Uni in next year. We had thought of living abroad a few months each year anyway but now UK is getting worse and worse for tax. Not super wealthy but millionaires on paper and with various investments. Been to advisor and would have IHT bill of £1 mill + if we stayed which makes me so angry. Worked hard for so many years to provide for our family and feels too harsh.
Spoke to our eldest about this and she even said so many of her friends have parents who have moved abroad in last few years. We are lucky we have options for countries, feels hard but then a flight is actually fast than driving up and down to where DC are at Uni so makes me wonder.....

Feel so fed up the constant threats to those who have saved for future and not got into debt through spending on material things or holidays, tech etc etc....

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EasternStandard · 16/10/2025 19:16

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 16/10/2025 19:06

I couldn’t leave. For lots of reasons. And I very much doubt that I’d be anywhere near the bracket for an eye watering wealth tax.

But others can. And if those people take their money abroad the government will have to find replacement income from less wealthy people. So it’ll start hares running about how far down the wealth ladder the tax burden will then shift.

All in all, I just can’t see the government getting out of this hole without putting up VAT, or income tax on many lower earners. Which they’ve pledged not to do.

The growth mantra has failed completely. Growth requires business confidence. The government is pumping money into the public sector - without any apparent benefit - at the expense of business. That was obviously intended to buy public sector votes and create a warm glow about the NHS. Since that’s completely bombed electorally and Reeves can’t go backwards on business taxes, they’ve blown it.

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Yes exactly, the burden gets pushed further down as the upper level opts out.

Papyrophile · 16/10/2025 19:23

@tomorrowtoblerone , actually to be technically precise, nearly a third of children live in RELATIVE poverty. Which is defined as being in families with less than 60% of the median (or average -- not quite certain) household income. So low income, definitely, but not absolute poverty in the sense that people were poor as recently as the mid-20th century. Relative poverty is a confection of the poverty lobby.

tomorrowtoblerone · 16/10/2025 19:36

I'm sure that's a consolation to them then. I think there are about 4 million children in absolute poverty currently in the UK? shameful.

ThedaBara · 16/10/2025 20:18

Just go. Go to any of these wonderful countries which will have you will open arms. The British are, as we know, universally beloved wherever they go, so the red carpet will be rolled out.
I wish you and all your kind, who probably did quite well out of the Tory austerity years, would leave like you keep threatening to. And then all your jobs and houses and school and GP registrations, could go to people who want to live here and contribute to their communities. It's very very simple.

strawberrybubblegum · 16/10/2025 20:23

Absolute poverty is defined as having a household income below 60% of the 2010/11 median household income, adjusted for inflation. That's £18,100 annually after housing costs. At that income level, they also won't be paying council tax, and will get all the low income hand outs. No childcare costs, since that income is below one person on full-time NMW.

Really not that bad for a family without anyone working,

mrwwhite · 16/10/2025 20:25

Octavia64 · 16/10/2025 13:00

How the fuck would you have an IHT bill of over a million?

there’s so many exemptions the damn thing is basically optional at this point.

do some tax planning.

Tell me you don’t have a single clue etc etc

Marshmallow4545 · 16/10/2025 20:29

MidnightMeltdown · 16/10/2025 17:32

Don’t be so silly, you can’t tax the dead! You can’t take your money either you!

The tax applies to those receiving, who have not earned the money, and are therefore getting an unearned windfall. Inheritance tax should be higher imo.

I think this is misleading as IHT doesn't just apply to money given in death but money given in life too. If you want to give someone a lot of money then you would have to live over 7 years for this not be deemed part of your estate and subject to IHT. Nobody knows when they will die.

You always hear how lottery winners or rock stars want to buy their mum a house. They can of course but if their child happens to die in 7 years time then they might get a massive tax bill.

mrwwhite · 16/10/2025 20:31

iwantavuvezela · 16/10/2025 13:35

Why are the very rich always so worried about paying tax / inheritance tax and finding ways to avoid it. All of us pay tax, it's part of living in a modern society that provides for all its citizens. Why would you leave a country just to save money, for what purpose? Leave if you would love to live somewhere else but choice positively - If you have that high an IHT bill over1 million then I presume you have enough for now and to pass on.

Leaving your children a massive IHT bill isn’t something most people want to do.

We for example, would have to sell the family business to afford the tax bill. And that’s not reasonable

lollypop42 · 16/10/2025 20:36

i’d leave now if i could - she is the devil

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 16/10/2025 20:36

Do you really need to hoard millions of pounds to pass to your children on your death, can’t they work and pay their own way? Aren’t you ashamed of moving to another country as an economic migrant?

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 16/10/2025 20:48

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 16/10/2025 20:36

Do you really need to hoard millions of pounds to pass to your children on your death, can’t they work and pay their own way? Aren’t you ashamed of moving to another country as an economic migrant?

Do you think this kind of comment works? Do you think people will change their minds by shaming them?

I’m only interested in helping my own kids, no one else’s. And if I didn’t have any kids, I’d rather flush my money down the toilet, than give it to Labour to spaff up against the wall.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 16/10/2025 20:54

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 16/10/2025 20:48

Do you think this kind of comment works? Do you think people will change their minds by shaming them?

I’m only interested in helping my own kids, no one else’s. And if I didn’t have any kids, I’d rather flush my money down the toilet, than give it to Labour to spaff up against the wall.

Just pointing out the irony tbh

Wowthatwasabigstep · 16/10/2025 21:13

Pensions do not currently fall within a deceased estate, this will change from 2027.

MotherPuppr · 16/10/2025 23:04

Fearfulsaints · 16/10/2025 13:19

Im not in the wealth bracket to move, nor do I have options of places that would take me.

I think, but dont know, that im the sort of person thst wants to make where I am better because it is home to me, and I would struggle to go somewhere low tax that was very poor on human rights in comparison.

But I dont know what options you are considering. They might be better on human rights or same tax but you get more out of it like functioning services.

i know people have views on places like Dubai and I can understand why. But for me it’s not an aversion to paying tax but finding somewhere I feel like I have a great lifestyle and get a fair return for those taxes. Australia’s tax bands are roughly the same as the UK, housing is expensive, people grumble about immigration (and I’m an immigrant here) just the same as in the UK. But public services are great, the streets are clean, my council is currently building tidal pools and upgrading bbq shelters and creating fancy new play parks. Schools where I live are good, there’s a new public ferry route which takes me right to my office. Undoubtedly I live in a great area (which I couldn’t afford to do in London on almost double my salary there). I don’t mind paying my (high) taxes here because it’s a lovely place to live.

oh and there’s no IHT in Australia.

so it’s not a binary choice where higher earners in uk can only choose to move to questionable countries built on modern day slavery.

A671090 · 17/10/2025 07:42

I am on the verge of the awful 100k mark and just below it because I work part time now (Fridays off although invariably I end up working) - I also work loooonnnnggg hours Monday- Thursday…… we have decided that if I end up massively penalised I will give up work.

Kulwinder54 · 17/10/2025 08:20

Definitely leave if you can, I would too. The tax loving people on this thread will be happy enough to pay more to fill in the gap (right?) Or the new immigrants will do more than enough to make up for it (when in actual fact studies have proven they are a net drain on welfare). Look out for yourself because no one else will.

MotherPuppr · 17/10/2025 08:22

Emptyandsad · 16/10/2025 17:39

Oh dear, poor you.

Yeah I’m not into drug dealers or chicken boxes blowing around in the wind, broken appliances in the front garden etc. but you do you lovey.

ELO10538 · 17/10/2025 08:26

Octavia64 · 16/10/2025 13:00

How the fuck would you have an IHT bill of over a million?

there’s so many exemptions the damn thing is basically optional at this point.

do some tax planning.

This. You seriously need good (better) taxation advice.

BlindSpotForCats · 17/10/2025 08:47

Kulwinder54 · 17/10/2025 08:20

Definitely leave if you can, I would too. The tax loving people on this thread will be happy enough to pay more to fill in the gap (right?) Or the new immigrants will do more than enough to make up for it (when in actual fact studies have proven they are a net drain on welfare). Look out for yourself because no one else will.

You can voluntarily pay more tax if you wish. Perhaps the tax lovers who think a fair tax is a tax someone else has to pay could set up a voluntary direct debit to HMRC?

Emptyandsad · 17/10/2025 09:00

The country is economically in the shit, because of Brexit, COVID, the Ukraine war and some pretty poor financial management by the Conservatives for 13 years and, more recently, by Labour for 15 months.

The rich people say 'this is shit, I'm off' (despite the fact that the rich have been getting richer during these years of financial hardship), leaving the poor people do dig themselves out of the mess that other people's decisions have left them in

Twas ever thus

PropertyD · 17/10/2025 09:31

I think many of us dont have a huge issue in paying more tax if only it was spent properly.

The NHS is a disgrace, the elderly people are getting older and older and we pat ourselves on the back even though quality of life is often not taken into account (both parents had everything thrown at them) and literally wheeled back to the care home.

EasternStandard · 17/10/2025 09:46

PropertyD · 17/10/2025 09:31

I think many of us dont have a huge issue in paying more tax if only it was spent properly.

The NHS is a disgrace, the elderly people are getting older and older and we pat ourselves on the back even though quality of life is often not taken into account (both parents had everything thrown at them) and literally wheeled back to the care home.

We’re taxed at high amount already. We don’t need more taxes, the last budget was a one off for rises.

PropertyD · 17/10/2025 09:54

With Labour and the useless way they run finances it most certainly isnt the last time for tax rises. Of course if it doesnt affect you who cares. Tax the billionaires, Amazon - they wont mind. Oh wait the billionaires have gone they are highly mobile and Amazon just put any extra taxes onto you.

Then the tax bands get lower and lower and they might even reach you. Of course if you are confident they never will you are then not a net contributor and others have to fund you.

EasternStandard · 17/10/2025 09:54

In fact this was on another thread. The last budget showed this was a lie too.

“Our manifesto is fully costed and fully funded and requires no further tax increases.”

Badbadbunny · 17/10/2025 10:43

Says it all...

Would you leave UK if Reeves starts taxing wealth