Why oh friffing why do people have log burners in cities?

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Surely they should be banned by now? We're all being VERY FIRMLY encouraged to reduce our emissions of every type. Log burners are proven to be filthy! And yet, I go outside of an early evening in my city street, when it's not even cold, and the smell is choking!

Is there a petition anywhere I can sign and share?

I'm guessing because a lot of people can't afford to put their heating on. I'm not sure people understand that just because they're ok themselves, some families are really struggling financially. You can pick logs up from a walk in the park.

If people use proper kiln dried logs then the emissions are very low. I agree that wet wood causes huge problems.

Oh please! It's not the families who are struggling financially who have log burners in cities. Come on.

There are strict regulations to use one. Firstly you can only burnt kiln dried logs with low moisture content, never coal or wet woods. What you're smelling sounds like a selfish neighbour with a bonfire, or someone is burning logs that aren't properly dried. You can't smell mine outside really, yet I often smell other people's bonfires burning God knows what.. it's choking and infuriating. Proper kiln dried logs aren't cheap, it's cheaper to have my heating on all day tbh.

Yes you're absolutely right. People with log burners never lose their jobs or have difficult times befall them meaning a change of financial circumstances. What was I thinking ...

Wait until the electricity cuts start.....

That's odd you can't smell your wood burning stove outside?
Loads around here and you can always smell them

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Always one!

I think they smell lovely.

And they are so warm and cosy too.

And you would know how?

They are cheaper than gas or electric.

I do think it’s cheaper especially if you can source wood. I had a colleague with a wood burner and he’d struggle to pass a builders skip without asking if he could take the pallets home!

That’s really bad, pallets are treated and should not be burned in the home

on a seperate note, my wood burners are fab, wood is properly seasoned, stoves are defra approved. Thr modern efficient ones will never be banned.

Love the parallel conversations here of either it’s fine because of course people burn properly dried wood or it’s necessary because people have to scavenge wet wood from the park and toxic treated wood from skips.

They are awful for health, they stink, and should be completely banned in built up areas.

So if you are poor and live in the countryside you are allowed to have a log burner?

@Momo18 and who goes around to smell the air and knock on doors to enforce these strict rules !!

Op I feel your pain we are terraced and have one on every side

That’s what I thought but not all are. Some are untreated or just heat treated (made from kiln dried wood). They have stamps so you know which you can safely burn.

My next door neighbour had one put in at the beginning of the year, so I'd assume being a new one it meets all the regs etc. It still absolutely stinks whenever they burn it, if my windows are open it's pretty unpleasant to smell it in my house.

You are far better burning smokeless fuel in cities, most burners are multi fuel

There you go, that’s the problem right there. idiots burning shit like pallets.

We only use properly seasoned, or kiln dried wood and you can’t smell ours at all. Our neighbour was off work last year when we had the wood delivered and was stunned to learn we had one. She’s lived next door to us for six years and we’ve used the stove daily in winter every year.

We also have an air purifier which kicks in when it detects Pm2.5 particles. It never goes off when the stove is on, but goes nuts when we use the airfryer

I live in a town. Most of the homes have log burners and when it gets colder; they’ll mostly burn every day.

The houses don’t have radiators in the rooms with log burners. The person who owned here before us wanted to remove them, but says it was declined as the burners have “historical appeal”, although I think it was only mentioned as they were applying to extend downstairs. We’ve paid to have radiators fitted but I do worry about the effect of living here on the kids. When we moved, we were told the newest types emitted basically nothing…

I think we’re a long way from banning them. 90% of the people on this street are 45/50 year olds, if not a bit older, who are pretty well off. They just like a cosy fire, and most haven’t paid to fit radiators in those rooms instead. We have a burner in every room downstairs, we had no radiators at all when we moved in.

The open fireplace had been phased out of Irish house building since 2014.
they are effectively banned. The log burners are not far behind here, there’s lots of restrictions on what you can burn and the types of log burners that can be sold here.

I think if you live in the countryside you should be allowed to have a wood burner as power cuts and being stuck due to snow would kill people.

I do think folk are more sensible rurally there’s always lots of tree fall where I am and I’m happy to chainsaw it into rounds and leave it in a windy barn for a year or two . Then I’ll split it and leave for up to another year. Burning wet wood is massively inefficient and damages the flue. You need space and forward planning though. It’s also cheaper to buy logs by the 4 cubic meter load than it is to buy in bulk bags or supermarket sacks if you’ve got no storage.