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Why can breakfast be sweet but not other meals?

49 replies

AnneLovesGilbert · 28/09/2025 21:40

Fruit salad, pancakes, waffles etc all perfectly acceptable for breakfast. But not normal for lunch or dinner. The porridge for supper thread the other day, I’m also a fan, was interesting but I think it’s the exception and it was mostly for young children.

Tonight we had apple crumble and yogurt for supper as half the family is ill and we had loads of apples. It was substantial, warm, several food groups, not bad.

Who came up with the rules?

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claricebeanutterlyme · 28/09/2025 21:43

I think it’s because sweet meals often mean sugar, which can result in bad teeth, type two diabetes, sugar addiction.

claricebeanutterlyme · 28/09/2025 21:43

Savoury meals are more easy to make healthy

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 28/09/2025 21:46

Basically because the thought of eggs in the morning makes me want to be sick…

That’s my theory anyway.

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icantwaitforsummer · 28/09/2025 21:47

Those breakfast arent perfectly acceptable really. They are really unhealthy.

it depends on your family and experience.

I would never eat any of those things, my blood sugar would be through the roof!

Igneococcus · 28/09/2025 21:55

Bavarians and Austrians have (or used to have) Mehlspeisen (literally flour meals) on Fridays because Catholics didn't eat meat on Fridays and fish used to be rare and expensive that far from the nearest coast. Mehlspeisen could be anything from bread and butter pudding (with fruit compote) or Apfelstrudel or rice pudding (again with compote), or plum dumplings, or pancakes, or Karthaeuserkloesse mit Weinsosse (like French toast but made with stale buns). In my family there was always a soup first, like a vegetable soup or lentils, then the Mehlspeise. It used to be my favourite day foodwise.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 28/09/2025 22:04

Ds has just returned from Vienna.

Cake for breakfast was on sale everywhere.

Dolamroth · 28/09/2025 22:05

Igneococcus · 28/09/2025 21:55

Bavarians and Austrians have (or used to have) Mehlspeisen (literally flour meals) on Fridays because Catholics didn't eat meat on Fridays and fish used to be rare and expensive that far from the nearest coast. Mehlspeisen could be anything from bread and butter pudding (with fruit compote) or Apfelstrudel or rice pudding (again with compote), or plum dumplings, or pancakes, or Karthaeuserkloesse mit Weinsosse (like French toast but made with stale buns). In my family there was always a soup first, like a vegetable soup or lentils, then the Mehlspeise. It used to be my favourite day foodwise.

Yes! Kaiserschmarrn is a complete meal (after some frittatensuppe) Grin

Hols23 · 28/09/2025 22:06

icantwaitforsummer · 28/09/2025 21:47

Those breakfast arent perfectly acceptable really. They are really unhealthy.

it depends on your family and experience.

I would never eat any of those things, my blood sugar would be through the roof!

Fruit salad for breakfast is really unhealthy? Confused

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 28/09/2025 22:09

AnneLovesGilbert · 28/09/2025 21:40

Fruit salad, pancakes, waffles etc all perfectly acceptable for breakfast. But not normal for lunch or dinner. The porridge for supper thread the other day, I’m also a fan, was interesting but I think it’s the exception and it was mostly for young children.

Tonight we had apple crumble and yogurt for supper as half the family is ill and we had loads of apples. It was substantial, warm, several food groups, not bad.

Who came up with the rules?

I think this is a UK thing.

Danish pastries (Denmark)
Pain au Chocolates ((France)

No one seems to regard these as unhealthy over there, They are just regarded as food.

Igneococcus · 28/09/2025 22:11

Dolamroth · 28/09/2025 22:05

Yes! Kaiserschmarrn is a complete meal (after some frittatensuppe) Grin

Yes, it really is, oooh I haven't had a Frittatensuppe for years.

soupyspoon · 28/09/2025 22:11

AnneLovesGilbert · 28/09/2025 21:40

Fruit salad, pancakes, waffles etc all perfectly acceptable for breakfast. But not normal for lunch or dinner. The porridge for supper thread the other day, I’m also a fan, was interesting but I think it’s the exception and it was mostly for young children.

Tonight we had apple crumble and yogurt for supper as half the family is ill and we had loads of apples. It was substantial, warm, several food groups, not bad.

Who came up with the rules?

More fool those who follow the rules.

And personally I like a savoury breakfast.

MidnightMusing5 · 28/09/2025 22:14

icantwaitforsummer · 28/09/2025 21:47

Those breakfast arent perfectly acceptable really. They are really unhealthy.

it depends on your family and experience.

I would never eat any of those things, my blood sugar would be through the roof!

I find if I eat something sweet at breakfast, I’m craving all day!

MolkosTeenageAngst · 28/09/2025 22:15

You wouldn’t have pudding after breakfast whereas pudding after lunch or dinner would be more acceptable, so I guess it’s okay to have something sweet so long as you eat it after something savoury at those mealtimes!

Dolamroth · 28/09/2025 22:15

Igneococcus · 28/09/2025 22:11

Yes, it really is, oooh I haven't had a Frittatensuppe for years.

Come over and have some!!

soupyspoon · 28/09/2025 22:19

Ive written before about my OH long drawn out breakfasts, he does this at weekends but once retired it will be like this everyday no doubt.

Yoghurt and fruit he will start off with. Then moves onto soup. Then if he is eating bread will have cheese on toast or sardines on toast. Then usually followed by a tin of semolina (this weekend it was tapioca and has been custard also sometimes). If he isnt having toast as we dont really eat bread usually, he might have those scotch pancakes with some cooked blueberries and bacon, but that needs to be planned out as we dont normally have bacon in, or the pancakes.

Igneococcus · 28/09/2025 22:20

Dolamroth · 28/09/2025 22:15

Come over and have some!!

I'd love to :)
I like all the clear beef brothy soups with something in it, like little semolina dumplings, or Eierschwaemmli

MrsClatterbuck · 29/09/2025 20:19

Growing up my dm would sometimes make a rice pudding for supper. So good.
We also had cereal for supper sometimes or the horror sugar puffs. Also my dm would make fresh pancakes or drop scones some would call them. At my Grandmother's we had sandwiches, homemade vegetable broth or fresh baby boiled potatoes with butter and salt. Not all at the same time.
Now I just have a cup of tea and maybe one biscuit. This wasnt every night and mainly if there were visitors though they usually got sandwiches.

Sugarahhoneyhoney · 29/09/2025 20:26

MolkosTeenageAngst · 28/09/2025 22:15

You wouldn’t have pudding after breakfast whereas pudding after lunch or dinner would be more acceptable, so I guess it’s okay to have something sweet so long as you eat it after something savoury at those mealtimes!

I have 90% dark chocolate after breakfast everyday. So essentially breakfast pudding.

I also love savoury porridge for dinner when DH isn't around and I don't need to cook for him.

WonderingWanda · 29/09/2025 20:29

We have just pancakes with sweet toppings for dinner on pancakes day!

PurBal · 30/09/2025 03:08

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 28/09/2025 22:09

I think this is a UK thing.

Danish pastries (Denmark)
Pain au Chocolates ((France)

No one seems to regard these as unhealthy over there, They are just regarded as food.

I might agree. I used to live in south east Asia and worked for a company that would regularly buy staff breakfast. Roti Prata was a popular option, basically bread and curry sauce. We also had noodles (like you’d have for lunch). I think the rules are arbitrary, why is a full English olay for breakfast but a roast not?

Mamma19283 · 30/09/2025 03:47

PurBal · 30/09/2025 03:08

I might agree. I used to live in south east Asia and worked for a company that would regularly buy staff breakfast. Roti Prata was a popular option, basically bread and curry sauce. We also had noodles (like you’d have for lunch). I think the rules are arbitrary, why is a full English olay for breakfast but a roast not?

Same, also used to work in SE Asia and savoury breakfasts were traditional until western influence made cereal and milk part of the norm. My family’s country has a type of laksa and noodles as a dish that’s eaten for breakfast, lunch and dinner. It’s also not unheard of to have last night’s leftovers for breakfast. I actually quite like have a savoury rice dish for breakfast, the way you would enjoy a full english.

I have been seeing FB reels of eating your meal in the order of vegetables, then protein, then carbs to reduce glucose spikes. I find it quite intriguing though I’ve never remembered to try it and I tend to reach for the potatoes first!

Namechange822 · 30/09/2025 03:54

Cream teas are a good example of an exception to the rule - I’d definitely eat that in place of either lunch or dinner - but it’s sweet.

mathanxiety · 30/09/2025 04:12

icantwaitforsummer · 28/09/2025 21:47

Those breakfast arent perfectly acceptable really. They are really unhealthy.

it depends on your family and experience.

I would never eat any of those things, my blood sugar would be through the roof!

Same.

I can't stand the thought of anything sweet in the morning, ever since I had a GD diet for a few months. That experience scared the bejaypers out of me.

Bjorkdidit · 30/09/2025 05:50

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 28/09/2025 22:09

I think this is a UK thing.

Danish pastries (Denmark)
Pain au Chocolates ((France)

No one seems to regard these as unhealthy over there, They are just regarded as food.

We had churros con chocolate, which is a common Spanish breakfast and ended up wanting to sleep again soon after.

Pastries as 'just food' are fine if your overall diet is healthy. A French lunch is likely to be something like fish or omelette and salad, in Denmark, fish and pickles on a small amount of rye bread. Pastries for breakfast aren't so healthy if you're then going to have a ham sandwich, crisps and Coke for lunch.

But I'm surprised at the love for 'pastries' on MN considering that they're basically sweet fatty air. I do like them, but they're not exactly a sustaining breakfast, I'm starving an hour later if that's what I had for breakfast.

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