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Parent lying or dramatising my son pushing her son.

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confusedlady10 · 26/09/2025 10:37

Long winded to avoid drip feeding so sorry. My son is 5 and very close friends with another boy in his other year 1 class, practically best friends. But for whatever reason, the boy’s mother doesn’t like me. I have tried to be friends with her and hang out, and she would say that we should, but I’d never hear anything of it. And she barley smiles at me at school or talks to me yet talks to the other mums happily although I try my best, so have just given up.

After school they had gone to the park together once or twice with a few other mums at the beginning of reception/preschool and that’s it. We exchanged numbers at the beginning of reception and I had asked our kids to meet up in summer this year, and she told me she would let me know and asked how my summer was going. I responded and asked about hers, to no reply so just left it and stopped trying since.

Since starting year 1 she told me that my son exposed himself to her son according to him and told me this in front of the other mums, so I was in shock and apologised in front of everyone and said I’d address it. I spoke to the school to find out what happened who told me that he pulled down his trousers slightly while sitting on the carpet to expose the back of his boxers and the kids were all laughing and being silly, the child included and that it wasn’t a situation that needed addressing so they didn’t tell me, and that the child didn’t tell them anything in way of a complaint either. (Nothing omitted, their exact words.)

I told my son to apologise anyway to the boy and to avoid awkwardness and no bad feelings with the mum considering they are good friends, which he did (and which made me think she 100% now had a reason to not like me anyway). I’m extremely painfully shy and non-confrontational and still felt a bit embarrassed about what happened in front of the mums but left it at that. My son and her son still play together and are best friends and talk in the playground at drop off and my son talks about him all the time positively, so unless I have been told otherwise, no issues since.

My son is quiet and shy like me which is why they get on as a lot of the other kids can be a bit more loud and boisterous and the mum has seen my son and her son interact in the playground fine and can see what my son is like. The next day after this happened she was incredibly overly smiley and nice to me which was odd and then back to awkward again the next day.

Then I get a message from her recently, telling me that she got a call from the school to say her son was pushed by another kid, banging his head and her son told her it was my son. So I apologise and said I’d get to the bottom of it. I ask the school via class messages why I wasn’t told about this, and they tell me that it was a clear accident and not on purpose so there was no need and dealt with in class. And they said when they spoke to the boy’s mum to inform her (they wouldn’t confirm the child’s name or her name but we know it who it was) they reiterated that it was a clear accident and that she was fully made aware of that because ‘we’ (the teachers) knew that.

So then I message the mum to tell her that the school informed me it was an accident which is why I wasn’t informed, but that regardless I have told my son to be more careful and apologise. She replies to say, ‘aha oh, I was told by teacher (different race teacher) that my son was pushed. Glad to know it was an accident.’ So either she’s dramatised this on purpose or the school are lying which I obviously doubt.

I’d have felt weird telling her what the school told me to call out her lie, and clearly she doesn’t like me hence stirring things up. I’ve invited her to my sons class party in month which also makes things awkward. But now I don’t know how to navigate seeing her at school, thinking to steer clear and have no idea why she keeps doing these things or clearly has an issue with me or my son.

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PenelopeRadish · 26/09/2025 12:28

Don’t let her get to you. Go int the schoolyard and make friends with the other mums. If this mum has a problem with you - ignore it. Your kid will change friends a lot in the next few years.

Five year olds are a silly bunch. This mum sounds even sillier.

Starboy14 · 26/09/2025 12:28

She sounds like a grade A, pain in the *ss. She is taking your kindness for weakness, this speaks volumes about who she is as a person. Do not apologise to her again. I would avoid as much as humanly possible. Hopefully your son will make new friends soon. I would give her a curt 'ok', as a response for any further accusations. Roll your eyes as you walk away and breathe deeply!

Calliopespa · 26/09/2025 12:32

Ilovemychocolate · 26/09/2025 10:50

I’ll ask again!
What has the teachers race got to do with anything?

I assumed a typo.

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Calliopespa · 26/09/2025 12:34

Calliopespa · 26/09/2025 12:32

I assumed a typo.

Oh don't worry, I've read on.

CurlewKate · 26/09/2025 12:36

Don’t people usually use teacher’s names as identifiers, not their race?

confusedlady10 · 26/09/2025 12:45

CurlewKate · 26/09/2025 12:36

Don’t people usually use teacher’s names as identifiers, not their race?

She was trying to make a distinction between the two teachers as the only year 1 teacher is a particular race, so it would be clear who told me it was an accident and would differ from her needing to message me. So I guess she was backtracking after initially just calling her “teacher” that called to tell her and assume it was from a different year group who also saw.

I don’t know the other teachers name, the one of the other race she was talking about as she isn’t their year 1 teacher, so I assume she didn’t know either as she put “aha teacher (other race?) told me my son was pushed.” (But she left out the accident bit. I doubt they wouldn’t have clarified that with her in the call considering the teacher’s reply to me, and she comes across as the type to definitely ask, as some parents would.)

I vaguely assume I know which teacher she’s talking about based on her description. But regardless the teacher replied “we knew it was an accident, and she was made clear that it wasn’t on purpose by your son” implying she was clearly told as such by the teachers that saw, rather than just one. Anyway she acted completely oblivious with her “glad to hear it was an accident” response. So I was a bit thrown off by the dramatics/message from her.

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DeadMemories · 26/09/2025 12:49

Next time she tells you your son has done XZY, DONT APOLOGISE, just tell her you will look into the facts and make a decision.

If your son is to blame then apologise to her son but if not then dont.

Dearodearo · 26/09/2025 12:50

confusedlady10 · 26/09/2025 12:22

Started doing that now! Either I still catch her and we may end up being early together or I wait a bit. All a bit dramatic and silly really having to do this, but I’m civil and try to smile at her anyway even if she doesn’t necessarily smile much back or look at me. Thank you.

If she's the type of character I suspect she is.... then she will enjoy not returning your smiles. Honestly, just don't look at her. Pretend she doesn't exist.

I think a lot of us on here have had some sort of issue or what not with a mental school parent, the best thing to do is not look and only speak if you have to. People like her thrive off the weird power dynamic. When it's happening to you it feels do personal and it does feel silly and dramatic telling others about it, but when its happening it is awful )

I didn't mean to sound harsh in my first message, I completely understand how you feel but you must stop giving her any sort of "power "

And stop apologising. I know it'd hard ( recovering people pleaser here ) but the less you apologise the better you will feel.

Your not going to change her opinion on your son or you, it's clearly a her problem. Stop letting it be a you problem, who even is this woman 😅 she's just a random school mum your child happens to be friends with. As the years go by your child will be friends with other children and hopefully their mums will be friendlier

Edited to add

Do not apologise on your sons behalf again. Don't message back at all until you've spoken to the teachers

Is not ever message her back but if you feel like you have to, then you need to already be armed with information, so no apologising it can be "Yes I spoke to teachers and they said ........

ClawsandEffect · 26/09/2025 13:04

I had this last year. A mum accosted me in the playground with something my son had supposedly done. I believed her, because why wouldn't I? BUT I insisted on taking it to the teacher (there and then) which the mum didn't want me to do. She said we should sort it out ourselves. She also took it upon herself to tell my son off!

The teacher was put on the spot and handled it the best she could, saying she thought the event had been an accident. The mum listed a whole chain of events, saying that my son was bullying hers, that her son was terrified of my son, that they had to come into school through the back entrance because her son was so scared to see mine.

I stewed on it all over the weekend. I WANTED to text the mum and tell her to take any form of issue to the school and not to confront me or my child. But I knew this would kick off an argument and I really didn't want to get into that.~

In the end, I emailed the head teacher and told her about the confrontation on the playground in front of all other parents at pick-up time. I was quite open about the bullying allegation and said that if my DC was being a bully, that I would absolutely deal with it and support the school in whatever consequences they felt were necessary.

The week after, the Head phoned me and said there was no bullying. That the other child had been goading my child, who had retaliated. She also said she appreciated that I wanted to leave it to the school to handle and that if there were another occasion on the playground where the mum attempted to confront me, that I should walk away and report it to her.

The mum no longer talks to me. She's very active with the other mums, no doubt passing on how awful my DC is and what a cow I am. But the mums I was friendly with before are still friendly so I think her words only appeal to a specific audience.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 26/09/2025 13:08

confusedlady10 · 26/09/2025 12:27

Ahh, no way I’d be able to say that. I have crippling anxiety and shyness and hate confrontation, so will just have to leave it at ‘I apologise if something has happened but will address it with the teacher’.

I’m a people pleaser and hate judgement and awkwardness. I just wish I could stand up for myself more and really need to for my DS. Was considering blocking her number but think if she has another issue she messages me about and can’t contact me, it will make things even more awkward especially as his party is coming up having to see her at the gates.

I really wish I wasn’t like this. I will just be civil, ignore her and smile when I see her and just keep my distance really. I do that anyway where possible. Thank you.

Practise - in your head and in front of a mirror.

Also remind yourself in great scheme of things she doens't matter one bit - just your DS does.

Sounds daft but it helps - I used to have same issues but when I had the kids refused to let them down and while I still struggle even now to stand up for myself - for my kids I just do.

DiscoBob · 26/09/2025 13:10

Why are you saying the teacher was a different race? What's that got to do with anything. You could've just said a different teacher.

Anyway you've done nothing wrong. The woman is a bit overprotective and clearly not keen on being friends. It will all blow over. They will probably be besties again soon.

Things like this happen all the time at that age. Try not to dwell on it.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 26/09/2025 13:10

Even just staying quiet and not immediatley reponding - count in your head and take a few deep breaths - can be very powerful tool - followed by well I will be checking with the school again.

Dearodearo · 26/09/2025 13:20

DiscoBob · 26/09/2025 13:10

Why are you saying the teacher was a different race? What's that got to do with anything. You could've just said a different teacher.

Anyway you've done nothing wrong. The woman is a bit overprotective and clearly not keen on being friends. It will all blow over. They will probably be besties again soon.

Things like this happen all the time at that age. Try not to dwell on it.

Read the OP's other comments before jumping the gun. She has already explained about the race thing

confusedlady10 · 26/09/2025 13:24

PenelopeRadish · 26/09/2025 12:28

Don’t let her get to you. Go int the schoolyard and make friends with the other mums. If this mum has a problem with you - ignore it. Your kid will change friends a lot in the next few years.

Five year olds are a silly bunch. This mum sounds even sillier.

Yup! I’ve tried. I have crippling anxiety and shyness and do a split shift for the school run so don’t have time to talk at the gates. They talk in a clique (not all of them to be fair, some dash off too) so I find it hard to integrate and feel a bit awkward. Not sure if they have strange feelings towards me or if they talk about things or if I am just being a bit silly and paranoid but I don’t find them the most approachable anyway.

Maybe because they are more confident and have similar personalities they tend to stick together. I don’t have many personal friends bar a few, some with kids. So I’m working on making more mum ones outside of school for my son and he attends extra curricular activities which helps. I am working on my confidence as well which has always been a struggle! Thank you.

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DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 26/09/2025 13:27

Mauvehoodie · 26/09/2025 11:16

I'd just leave it now and steer clear of the mum as much as possible. If anything else happens I'd not apologise to her in advance of finding out more info, just calmly say "OK, I'll speak to the teacher" and do that. She has twice accused your DS when he hasn't done anything wrong.

Yes. She seems to be making you talk to your son and getting him to apologise to her son when he hasn't done anything wrong and she knows this.
It's weird.

She falls in the "Smile and Wave" mum category, where you nod good morning and steer as clear as possible from her.

It's sad for your son, but there are lots of other children to play with and other mums to make friends with, it doesn't sound like this woman is going to get any nicer. There's something off about her behaviour. I would wonder if she's making similar complaints about other children in her son's class? Is there a bit of snobbery going on?

Maybe she's trying to discourage the friendship because she'd prefer her son to make friends with his classmates, rather than a child in another class. I would nominate someone to keep a close eye on both of them if they come to your son's party, because at the moment you have back up from the school, but not if she starts something at a private party. However, if she is trying to discourage the friendship then they may not turn up, which would be easier for you to enjoy your own son's party.

I wouldn't be inviting them to anything else frankly.

DiscoBob · 26/09/2025 13:29

Dearodearo · 26/09/2025 13:20

Read the OP's other comments before jumping the gun. She has already explained about the race thing

I know. I just think it sounds inappropriate, though I know it wasn't meant that way.

confusedlady10 · 26/09/2025 13:37

DiscoBob · 26/09/2025 13:29

I know. I just think it sounds inappropriate, though I know it wasn't meant that way.

Yes sorry I was just trying to clarify why she said that in her message, it wasn’t me just randomly putting that. She was the one who wrote that in her message, so to give clear context I just explained exactly what she wrote to avoid drip feeding/leaving out context. Don’t meant to come across as inappropriate or offensive if I did so apologies!

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FuzzyWolf · 26/09/2025 13:47

You can’t that easily change your child and her child being friends but I would try to minimise any other contact or conversations.

If she messages you again about anything to do with your child just reply “we always seem to get completely different versions of these events so you’ll just have to take it up with school and I trust them to contact me direct if there is anything I need to be aware of” and then just repeat and refuse to engage further with her.

JustMeBoo · 26/09/2025 13:54

This mum sounds like a nightmare, just avoid her at all costs and if she messages you tell her you'll speak to the teacher. Given her volatility, the other parents will surely get to know what she's like if they don't already, so I wouldn't worry too much about her damaging your reputation.

Luckily your son is only five so he'll most likely move around with his friendships and you might strike lucky with a nice parent next time.

confusedlady10 · 26/09/2025 14:01

FuzzyWolf · 26/09/2025 13:47

You can’t that easily change your child and her child being friends but I would try to minimise any other contact or conversations.

If she messages you again about anything to do with your child just reply “we always seem to get completely different versions of these events so you’ll just have to take it up with school and I trust them to contact me direct if there is anything I need to be aware of” and then just repeat and refuse to engage further with her.

Wish I was that bold! Will get there!

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OhDear111 · 26/09/2025 14:03

@confusedlady10 Honestly - steer clear. There will be some drama at the party. You will find difficult parents are best avoided. I’d also never do a class party for exactly this reason. Some parents are not to your taste and they create problems. Do you need this level of drama?

Your DS needs a wide circle of friends and you need to encourage this. No child should be inseparable from a “best friend”. It’s unhealthy and if a fall-out happens, what then? He’s said something to his mum that wasn’t true. Do you really want this type of accusation for the next 7 years? Do a smaller party and choose dc carefully . Curate DSs friends. It’s what everyone does.

Peteryourhorseisheree · 26/09/2025 14:04

Listen, I’ve had three children in primary school over the last two decades and some parents are just fucking loopy.

Buckle in, she’s going to be a shit stirrer for the next 6 years. Hope that your son makes other friends.

confusedlady10 · 26/09/2025 14:08

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 26/09/2025 13:27

Yes. She seems to be making you talk to your son and getting him to apologise to her son when he hasn't done anything wrong and she knows this.
It's weird.

She falls in the "Smile and Wave" mum category, where you nod good morning and steer as clear as possible from her.

It's sad for your son, but there are lots of other children to play with and other mums to make friends with, it doesn't sound like this woman is going to get any nicer. There's something off about her behaviour. I would wonder if she's making similar complaints about other children in her son's class? Is there a bit of snobbery going on?

Maybe she's trying to discourage the friendship because she'd prefer her son to make friends with his classmates, rather than a child in another class. I would nominate someone to keep a close eye on both of them if they come to your son's party, because at the moment you have back up from the school, but not if she starts something at a private party. However, if she is trying to discourage the friendship then they may not turn up, which would be easier for you to enjoy your own son's party.

I wouldn't be inviting them to anything else frankly.

Edited

The classes are quite small so for the lessons they share a classroom and play together and share the teacher. They only seperate for few certain session/lessons and queue up separately then. But yeah they all are quite close, my son and him and the class(es) he gets on with very well.

He really wanted him at the party and the boy did too. I doubt she will come tbh after her remark about the date I picked and her not seeming to like me, but if she does I’ll keep my eye on them and keep my distance from her. Thank you!

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confusedlady10 · 26/09/2025 14:18

OhDear111 · 26/09/2025 14:03

@confusedlady10 Honestly - steer clear. There will be some drama at the party. You will find difficult parents are best avoided. I’d also never do a class party for exactly this reason. Some parents are not to your taste and they create problems. Do you need this level of drama?

Your DS needs a wide circle of friends and you need to encourage this. No child should be inseparable from a “best friend”. It’s unhealthy and if a fall-out happens, what then? He’s said something to his mum that wasn’t true. Do you really want this type of accusation for the next 7 years? Do a smaller party and choose dc carefully . Curate DSs friends. It’s what everyone does.

He plays well and gets on fine with the others in class, just closest with this one and seems to talk about him a lot. I ask who he has played with every day and he mainly mentions him and another boy. I have asked him to try make friends with the others and he says he does try but sometimes they don’t want to play or they play for a bit and then he’s playing with this child again as he’s quite shy and more reserved and sticks to those kids. He has a few outside of school too but not many.

The reason I had a class party is, as the class isn’t huge and he doesn’t have many friends I have assumed some will drop out (many haven’t RSVP’d anyway), so I was hoping to get at least 5-10 kids to come to his party (including his few friends from outside of school). I stay clear of the mum and tell my son to try and be more social at school and tell him to ask to actively play more with the others.

I’m working on my own anxiety and shyness and putting myself out there on apps to make more mum friends too and I’m putting DS in more extra curricular activities. It’s hard since I work full time and don’t have lots of spare time, and I drive for drop offs and pick ups to dash for work after. The other mums walk to school together/push buggies and have other kids so they are more cliquey and have time to properly chat. Will try though, thank you.

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OhDear111 · 26/09/2025 14:27

I do sympathize and not getting many responses is hard. However if everyone does a class party - parents only have so much spare time. It can get out of hand and expensive. As they get a bit older, doing a treat for, say 3, is a lot easier unless he’s mates with 15! Boys probably won’t be. My DDs hardly went to a boy party. They hardly ever had one!

In your shoes I’d invite other dc round to play at the weekend. He will start to name other boys and it could be this one is drama seeking too? Maybe he’s the “queen (king?) bee” of the boys so DS is attracted to him? But you can see what the mum is like! At 5 they do sample friends and cannot always find best fit. I’d be concerned about this friendship so ask school to help him make a wider circle of friends.

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