According to Harry hill there’s no dignity in being middle class?

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just seen a clip of this, and saying that George Orwell said the upper class and working by class have more uncommon

some clip from sky history

I think you can certainly have dignity

Do you have a link ?

I think a lot of middle classes started out working class and there is dignity in the work it can take.

If the context is a wry observation about people wanting others to stay in their lane then thats another thing.

Well I haven’t seen the clip. Did he mean that upper class people and working class people know “where they belong” and middle class people can be more vague and have a foot in both camps!

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdsUEwUQ/

Oh I don't have or watch tik tok videos

I’ll see if I can find it on YouTube for you

Whatever. I cannot say I am bothered one way or the other. I do agree with Orwell though. I do think the Upper and Working classes have more in common than either have with the Middle class.

Billy Connolly did a great sketch some years back about how the upper classes with serious money were great fun to have a laugh with and were all nuts, and said the lower class was the same, great laugh and all nuts, and how it was the middle class Volvo owners and v neck pullovers that messed it up for the rest of us with being concerned about how much their houses were worth etc. Ended on a joke of a middle class guy asking a guy who he knew was piss poor how much he’d get if he sold his house and the punch line being “about 60 days”.

I think there’s some truth in it. I’m not middle class, but married once into a middle class family, they were always so concerned about their public image and what they had and didn’t have etc. Through work I’d spent some time with some real upper class people, old upper class, and they were always far more down to earth than any middle class person I’d met. Never judgemental either and nothing was beneath them. So on that note I do think the upper classes and lower class have a lot more in common. Neither are ever trying to be something they won’t and don’t have the fear of going lower.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pRZeYHM1GzQ

3 minutes in if anyone’s interested

Yes i do agree with that.

Why does MN act as if the middle class are mainly self obsessed Hyacinth Bucket types, twitching their curtains and faking posh accents? Those people are a dying breed. Your kids teachers are middle class by definition, as are the nations doctors, nurses and dentists.

Almost all the people giving tiny definitions to 'the middle class' are middle class themselves.

Yes, this. Plus I can’t get excited about something someone said on a TikTok video involving a possibly imperfect understanding of George Orwell on a class system which has changed a lot since he said whatever it is TikTok person thinks he said.

Not to mention the upper class, who are all charming, scruffy eccentrics, swearing creatively as they chuck their many dogs in their muddy old car. Not sure where the Bullingdon club fit into this picture.

You could say it’s just men talking bollocks as usual 😂 in that self important, i know it all, type way

Well that does sound like HH so...😄

Everyone has dignity. It would be great if the UK could grow up and abandon the class system.

It's like Haz going down the pub with his poorly buttoned shirt, going out the back, loosing his virginity via a roll in the hay with the slightly older stable girl, and some East Ender character giving birth during a gas explosion and car crash scene. They are all medicated, procreating and rudderless, with no care for consequences.

Not like the steady, boring muddle classers, desperately trying to afford some nice ainsley for the mantle piece.

Surely as a former GP and now very wealthy comedian, Harry Hill is very definitely middle class himself so any attempt to besmirch them is a little pathetic?

I'm middle class. I don't tend to like middle class values though. I have friends and acquaintances from all demographics but I wouldn't say I'm very middle class in my outlook.
I went to a private girls school (on a bursary) and hated it. I also saw proper snobbery while I was there. The superiority that comes with money is something I've never wanted to associate with. I still don't own a ton of money despite working very very hard for everything I have. Which I'd actually associate more with a working class mindset.
So actually I think I agree with Orwell.