What’s your views on people doing Low Skilled jobs all their life? Are they stupid?

[Benny91]

People that are bin men, cleaners, bus drivers and work in retail? Do you think they’re only doing it because they’re not very smart?

As I heard this guy talking to his friend in the Gym today and that he’s a manager at a supermarket and all I overheard was that the longest ones who have worked at the place are ‘thick as shit’, and I was actually quite shocked about what he said! 😳

Also saying about those doing this long term. People often assume that people that do this way of living are failures in life?!

Whats your thoughts?

Another stupid thread where the OP doesn't come back, so many of these

one of my DD worked for tfl with a team of over 200 under her, she has managed some big supermarkets,burn out and for a couple of years has been working in a coffee shop. My youngest was working in a very large well known store,her sil, went up to her screaming for a solid hour that if she had gone to college and uni, she could have been something better than a shop assistant. My DD was acting manager and offered the job,mid twenties. She is now an ex sil,by the way!.

Offered the actual management.

I think it is the manager who is lacking in empathy and understanding. People have many reasons for staying in unskilled work. My mum was a manager / buyer of a high street store in Birmingham before she had me. After my birth my dad had a nervous breakdown he never worked again my mum took on a role as cleaner to Birmingham university students. She worked there part time until she retired. People also want a low stress job with no pressure if they have anxiety and depression.

Maybe this guy's colleagues were educationally subnormal? Or maybe he was just being rude. He feels embarrassed himself about his job so wants to be little his staff as he thinks he's above it all. If he was above it all why is he working there?

All jobs that are useful are good jobs. Shop staff, bus drivers, bin men, cleaners are all extremely essential.

And no way would I think someone who works an honest living is stupid. I wouldn't even call any work 'unskilled'.

Even a deliveroo man has to know how to ride a bicycle and be physically fit. Which is more than I know how to do! And without them lots of disabled people would starve.

Has she tried? She wouldn't even have to count, the till does that. Can she tell a 5p from a 50p?
Is she able to work her phone? If so, she could work on a checkout with training.

"Educationally lsubnormal,"seriously! I have a relative.with.a DS severe learning disabilities and autism,he works in 2 charity shops, and manages to operate the tills.

I'm seriously considering moving into becoming a handywoman once we've relocated. I love a bit of DIY, and have done all the basics plumbing, fittings and fixtures work in our house, including fitting taps, putting up shelves, some plastering and brickwork.

Some people won't hire me because I'm a woman, on the other hand, some people will hire me because I'm a woman. I also will use all the professional skills such as good communication, clear pricing etc, the things that really bother people with trades.

Spend all day listening to music whilst doing something practical? Much more fun than my current job.

No. She can't count money. Sorry, do you genuinely think that you could teach her this when schools, colleges me have all tried over w5 years to no avail?

People like her often do catering roles instead. But she has epilepsy and is banned from any form of kitchen work. She can't carry trays either as her hands shake due to the epilepsy drugs.

The epilepsy medication makes her very tired and she has a nap most afternoons.

She can't do any data entry jobs, cleaning, customer service. Where we live there are no animal or horticulture openings.

We worked with a scheme that finds employment for people with additional needs but they drew a blank. She was volunteering in a hospital but they can't support her needs so that has finished.

If you can think of anything else she could do, please let me know.

Working on a till is more than just handling cash though. It is dealing with customers sometimes difficult ones.
I know a lady with LD who can use her phone just fine but she is not able to regulate herself at all and would kick off at anything challenging.
Then people will be posting on here saying people like that should not be dealing with customers or even out in public.

These days, getting ANY job can be a lot harder than most people think. And you're arguably sensible to work in a low stress job. Very difficult, stressful jobs aren't necessarily well-paid either, like teaching, nursing, social work etc (maybe if you're promoted you can make lots of money, but then a lot of people who work in these fields don't want to become managers because, as they once said in Taggart, the higher up you get, the more you get away from what wanted to make you do the job in the first place).
If someone is happy(ish) doing their job, makes enough money, and it fits in with what they want from their life (kids, pets, hobbies etc), then good for them.

I think Covid showed us who were essential to us. And it wasn’t the intelligentsia 🙄

Does he think thick or unintelligent people should be exempt from working?

I hate that it is seen as a job anyone can do. Anyone on here struggling to find work always has it suggested to them.

I agree with you, pick up a bit of care work ! As if its easy

Someone needs to do those jobs and I'm bloody grateful they are.

Someone actually getting up and going to work isn't to be sneered at.

So he himself works at the supermarket? What a twat

I read it that he thinks anyone who spends any length of time in low skill/pay jobs must be thick.

I have seen similar views on here by MN posters saying that low paid jobs are for teens and retired people. Anyone between those groups that is doing have some how failed at life.

There's people with degrees that I know of and I can hands down say I know I am more intelligent than them.

My life long friend is a bin man and has a lot of money. He is very good financially as he came from poverty. Probably more money than these 'clever people' jobs swamped up to their eyeballs in debt.

He lives in a £700k house mortgage free and is set for an eye watering sum of a private pension with the council too for when he retires on top of his standard pension.

He hasn't taken out credit cards and loans his whole life, worked hard every day doing a job most people wouldn't survive. So to me, that's more successful that the f a t a r s e s sat behind desks convincing themselves that they've got a good job because it looks good on paper.

A lot of desk jobs and so on may pay slightly more, but you pay for it with your bad back, lack of movement and health conditions due to lack of movement.

I dont think binmen earn enough to get a £700k mortgage let alone have it paid off in their lifetime.

@TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWateryes achievable . Renovating your home, all self taught and re-selling at a higher price. Plenty of ways, you are judging based on their annual salary and not what they do with their money outside of work to maximise it for their future. Hmm.

No you have made out that a binman can get a £700k mortgage and have it paid off. You said nothing about the other stuff at all. Nothing about him renovating his own home at all.

Except it was the Intelligentsia who created the vaccine for Covid, obviously.

Was it supermarket managers?

Well, his money didn’t come from being a binman, trust me. My lovely retired FIL and several other men in the family spent much of their working lives as binmen, starting as street sweepers and working up to driving bin lorries in FIL’s case, and it’s low-paid and, especially in the pre-wheelie bin era, grindingly physically exhausting. He has chronic back problems as a result.

The average salary is £24 to £30k, pa and the latter is for an experienced person.