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MIL guilt tripping about second cousins

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stilll · 13/08/2025 18:45

There is a huuuuge backstory here which I won’t go into but at 40 I hit an aabsolute wall with it all and have refused to be more than civil after a decade of unhinged behaviour, demands, complaints etc.

anyway, the endless bombardment of messages has continued to my husband - streams of consciousness that if unpicked at all are very clearly self aggrandising performances of how amazing she is and how full their life is etc. Then comes the ‘everyone is so shocked you don’t visit more’ etc etc.

she has recently fixated on the idea that our children are being deprived of magical childhood memories with their second cousins who they are apparently with all the time and who are all asking about why we don’t come etc etc (don’t believe this). My husband is weak with this stuff and I know it’ll soon be an issue here and so the TLDR question - is it normal to be not very close with second cousins who you are growing up 6+ hours away from and who you hear nothing from other than second hand messages via a nightmare MIL?

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BestZebbie · 13/08/2025 23:53

x2boys · 13/08/2025 19:03

Not the point of the thread but 2nd cousins are the respective offspring of two first cousins and first cousin once removed is what your child is too your first cousin.

So, her second cousins are her dad's first cousins once removed, as she said....

Lament7189 · 13/08/2025 23:58

I have several cousins but haven’t seen them since childhood.

I have absolutely no idea if I have any second cousins. I’ve never thought to ask.

It seems a very strange thing for anyone to make an issue out of.

BooneyBeautiful · 14/08/2025 00:00

the80sweregreat · 13/08/2025 18:55

I have many ‘ first ‘ cousins I never see and a few I’d probably pass in the street to be honest.
Second ones or ‘ first cousins once removed’ as my dad referred to them , I’ve no clue who any of them are.

Second cousins are not first cousins once removed. My cousins would be my DC's first cousins once removed. Second cousins are the same generation, i.e. my cousins' children would be my DC's second cousins. This is actually very important when it comes to intestacy because first cousins once removed are higher up in the pecking order.

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Francestein · 14/08/2025 00:06

Grab DH’s phone and mute her messages. Send a message from his phone that her constant stream of messages is far too intrusive and she being muted between these hours so that DH has some mental space.
DH needs a backbone and to be told his mother’s demands for instant gratification are the behaviour of a toddler.

x2boys · 14/08/2025 07:34

BestZebbie · 13/08/2025 23:53

So, her second cousins are her dad's first cousins once removed, as she said....

Only she didn't and she clarified that...

Wethers121 · 14/08/2025 08:01

OP does you DH still have a relationship with his DM? I’m low contact with MIL and she’s no longer welcome at our home but my DH still wants a relationships and she’s great with our DC and they adore her so I support them having a relationship with them. My DH visits her at her home or they go out for the day and she looks after our DC at her home, often overnight. I still do drop offs and pick up and we have polite very minimal chat so the kids aren’t aware but that’s as far as it goes.

stilll · 14/08/2025 08:23

Wethers121 · 14/08/2025 08:01

OP does you DH still have a relationship with his DM? I’m low contact with MIL and she’s no longer welcome at our home but my DH still wants a relationships and she’s great with our DC and they adore her so I support them having a relationship with them. My DH visits her at her home or they go out for the day and she looks after our DC at her home, often overnight. I still do drop offs and pick up and we have polite very minimal chat so the kids aren’t aware but that’s as far as it goes.

He is fairly low contact now. Her demands have become so relentless and unreasonable that he ignores most of her messages now. Last time they visited (about 2 months ago) she spent the trip calling my FIL ‘daddy’ to my husband and tried to call ‘everyone’ on Father’s Day because they were all so ‘desperate to hear from’ DH. Only one person answered, said she was busy and would call back - and never did. It’s all performance and optics and it is so so tiresome. There is also a deep undercurrent of anger which makes things feel pretty unpleasant.

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