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US report on worsening human rights inUk.

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Milliejacksonhouseforsale · 13/08/2025 05:31

Trump administration have done a report that human rights have declined in the UK in the past year.
This coming from the Government that's given America
Ice .. Trumps personal boot boys
Draconian abortion law's.
National Guard..on street's of Washington DC..A democrat city.
School Shootings that the US accept.

The report is on BBC news US and Canada , sorry don't know how to link.
Some of the the things cited
Abortion clinic buffer zones.. women should be able to enter unhindered.
Free speech.. Doesn't seem to be free speech in America unless agreeing with Trump.
The tragic Southport murders, fortunately these events are rare in the UK unlike America .

American politicians should stop trying to tell the UK how it should be
Considering how America and American society is .

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Yellowbirdcage · 13/08/2025 05:44

How bizarre. Was just reading this morning about how the DOGE have managed to get hold of sensitive data relating to Palestine protesters.
The abortion rights thing! The president’s comments on policing! It really is a ‘look over there’ thing. Didn’t Trump say some nonsense about No Go areas of London because Muslims? (Because he really hates Sadiq Khan).

FluffyWabbit · 13/08/2025 06:04

Why do you set the bar so low, though?

Why compare UK to USA. Why don't you compare the UK to the UK.

Has anything changed for the better or worse? Saying that the US is better or worse, and using it as a comparison to the UK, is just a weird way to justify doing nothing in your own back garden.

It's like saying we live in a pile of dung but their pile is bigger so I'll continue to stink.

It's weird, IMO.

Milliejacksonhouseforsale · 13/08/2025 06:13

FluffyWabbit · 13/08/2025 06:04

Why do you set the bar so low, though?

Why compare UK to USA. Why don't you compare the UK to the UK.

Has anything changed for the better or worse? Saying that the US is better or worse, and using it as a comparison to the UK, is just a weird way to justify doing nothing in your own back garden.

It's like saying we live in a pile of dung but their pile is bigger so I'll continue to stink.

It's weird, IMO.

Unjustified clap trap from a Trump administration should be questioned and their interference in UK matters isn't acceptable.

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HannahJ93 · 13/08/2025 06:14

You're right the the USA is even worse but the doesn't mean things aren't terrible here too

FluffyWabbit · 13/08/2025 06:16

Milliejacksonhouseforsale · 13/08/2025 06:13

Unjustified clap trap from a Trump administration should be questioned and their interference in UK matters isn't acceptable.

Nah, the US gaslights their people with events here just like we gaslight ourselves with events over there.

The distraction works nicely.

Milliejacksonhouseforsale · 13/08/2025 06:19

HannahJ93 · 13/08/2025 06:14

You're right the the USA is even worse but the doesn't mean things aren't terrible here too

Agreed Hannah, but hopefully things in the UK can improve.
Britain has been in decline for years and it didn't just happen in the past year.

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HannahJ93 · 13/08/2025 06:21

@Milliejacksonhouseforsale I agree things have been getting worse for years. I've almost given up hope that they will improve.

MikeRafone · 13/08/2025 06:21

FluffyWabbit · 13/08/2025 06:16

Nah, the US gaslights their people with events here just like we gaslight ourselves with events over there.

The distraction works nicely.

What has changed in the last 2 years? Which areas have human rights declined?

MikeRafone · 13/08/2025 06:29

That is dated 2023, we’ve had a change of government since then. Tory’s were definitely moving towards banning protests

FluffyWabbit · 13/08/2025 06:32

MikeRafone · 13/08/2025 06:29

That is dated 2023, we’ve had a change of government since then. Tory’s were definitely moving towards banning protests

Do some research and find something more recent, then.

A foreign government shouldn't have to highlight another countries situation for the citizens of that country.

But, I'm not here to debate.

The point is, saying you're ok to stink, because someone stinks more, is a low bar.

Milliejacksonhouseforsale · 13/08/2025 06:38

FluffyWabbit · 13/08/2025 06:32

Do some research and find something more recent, then.

A foreign government shouldn't have to highlight another countries situation for the citizens of that country.

But, I'm not here to debate.

The point is, saying you're ok to stink, because someone stinks more, is a low bar.

I'll just use one example In America far right Christian group's are allowed to protest and harass women using abortion clinics.
Scotland has buffer zones to keep religious zealot's away from clinics and harassing women using said facilities.

Part of that report criticised buffer zones.

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MikeRafone · 13/08/2025 06:41

Strengthened protections against unfair dismissal:
The Labour government has removed the two-year qualifying period for unfair dismissal claims, meaning employees are protected from unfair dismissal from their first day of employment, though a potential probationary period may be introduced.
They have also made it automatically unfair to dismiss workers because they refuse to agree to a variation of contract (fire and rehire).

Expanded family-friendly rights:
Paternity and parental leave are now "Day One" rights, meaning employees are entitled to them from the start of their employment, removing the previous qualifying periods.

The government has also expanded eligibility for bereavement leave.

They are making flexible working the default position from day one of employment, requiring employers to accommodate it where feasible
Nobody was forcibly sent to Rwanda under the previous government's plan, and Labour has stated that it will not deport anyone to Rwanda under this new policy.

FluffyWabbit · 13/08/2025 06:41

Milliejacksonhouseforsale · 13/08/2025 06:38

I'll just use one example In America far right Christian group's are allowed to protest and harass women using abortion clinics.
Scotland has buffer zones to keep religious zealot's away from clinics and harassing women using said facilities.

Part of that report criticised buffer zones.

Ok, I understand that they have no place to talk about what is going on here BUT why does anyone care what they say?

Why do we only care if the US brings something up and then compare it and, if it's the same, we just walk away and do nothing and accept it? Change it only because they brought it up? Think about it only because they brought it up?

I don't understand why we care what the US says more than doing anything about what we care about in the first place.

If something upsets us about the country, it shouldn't just be comments made by another one.

Milliejacksonhouseforsale · 13/08/2025 06:46

Agreed fluffy,we should sort our stuff in-house.The things in that report for the most part was bollocks.

I get sick of hearing about Britain's special relationship with America.
It's always been the case America says jump and UK says how high.

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YelloDaisy · 13/08/2025 06:48

The French and Germans are rolling on the floor laughing - we’re taking all the immigrants they don’t want - but people get imprisoned for complaining .
We can’t send boats out to push them back, we can’t put them on an island, we are a laughing stock and deserve it- I don’t think we can criticise others - Trump sorted their 10000 times worse problem. got to pretend we like being multicultural.
We deserve criticism.

Edit -and when they see us arresting 500 pro Palestinians they must laugh louder

MikeRafone · 13/08/2025 06:48

What is the UK ranked in human rights?

The United Kingdom's overall rule of law score increased by less than 1% in this year's Index. It ranks 15th out of 142 countries worldwide. Regionally, the United Kingdom ranks 12th out of 31 countries in the European Union, European Free Trade Association, and North America.
That’s dated October 2024

thsts less than 1% increase though not decreasing

Yellowbirdcage · 13/08/2025 08:17

Why are people so hyperbolic? No the UK doesn’t stink when it comes to human rights.

Like Amnesty International it’s easier to carp about the small things in a country which listens, than to get involved where things really do ‘stink’. Easier to protest about UK Immigration policy for example than to lobby for change in countries where people have no rights.
Anyone read about the slaves being sent from N Korea to Russia. Yes slaves. Amnesty International need to do what they were set up for and not prioritise campaigns in countries with decent rights.

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