DS24 wants to move abroad for a year

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DS24 is having a bit of a crisis. He's feeling super frustrated in life and wants to move abroad (but just for a year).

DS did UG in London. Did a master's elsewhere and has now been working for around 2 years now. He likes the job and the industry in general. It's a corporate office consultancy job in a specific sector only. As in the firm only does consulting in one industry and that's the industry DS is passionate about. He lives at home with us in London and goes to work.

DS wanted to work and explore in the EU but knows that because of Brexit he can visit frequently on holiday it'll be difficult to move for work.

He's been wondering about the US and what city life is like there. An acquaintance he had from school moved to the US (without A-levels!) and has had a successful career and moved around major US cities

He wants a change of scene but also to experience a city with as much pace and fun as London has to offer.

Sorry OP but help him with what? Where to move? Visa and working abroad advice? Living abroad? Cultural advice etc etc etc?

I mean seriously, try reading the OP first.

At 24, he has to find his own way
Back off, cut the cord, you’re not doing him any favour

Aw. Are you bored 'cos you've broken up from school?

What are you on about? I prefer not to know, sounds potent and hallucinogenic

I personally wouldn't advice anyone to go to the US but definitely not a person of colour, even NY or California may not be that easy.

Can he speak to his HR if there is a possibility to move for an internship abroad? Our company does this, they help with visa/work permit as they sponsor so it's also easier to get permanent accomodation than if he just has a working holiday/travel visa.

Or could he apply for a sabbatical and travel first? Sabbaticals can help as he would still be employed.

I think you’re the one who needs to grow up. I’m 57 and agree with what pp said. What’s your problem?

Australia is definitely a very good bet and many EU countries aren’t hugely difficult for young people to get a short term working visa. The US is and always has been far more difficult in this respect.

As someone who has 2 children currently working in the US, I find a lot of these comments about not going to the US at the moment very peculiar (especially the racial references!). I wonder whether people would express the same reservations about short term working in countries such as Italy, Hungary, Austria, Croatia and Turkey and many more who have right wing governments ?

President Trump is very unlikely to have any impact on someone’s day to day life in this situation.

Yes, I wouldn't want my DD to move to Hungary and Turkey as she is queer.

I know people in the US (non-white, queer) who are desperate to move away. I have heard too many tales from DH's business acquaintance who had issues at the border or were checked for papers.

My response was to another poster. I haven't quoted you at all.

I’m fully aware of that but your response was so ridiculous I wanted to comment anyway.

CANADA CANADA CANADA 😁

Seriously, he should definitely consider it. Alternatively, if he’s in quite a niche area of work, he might find it easier to find work in the EU, but most countries will have language requirements.

Another alternative is looking at Civil Service overseas jobs, although they are much less likely to be in big cities. British Council?

@reluctantbritI certainly agree with you there as gay people obviously
don’t have equal rights in Hungary and Turkey unlike in the USA where same sex marriage has been legal for over 10 years and is supported by over 70% of the population. The Trump administration has no interest in changing that or rolling back on equal rights for gay people. And as for border checks, like Australia these have always been incredibly rigorous in the USA.

It’s not easy. Does he just want to go ‘somewhere else’ to see whether he likes it better. Other young people will be doing the same and trying to get to London. He already has massive privilege being able to live at home in London while his career gets going.
I have nephews and a niece who were keen to try ‘somewhere else’ and moved to Australia (2) and NY (1) and Canada (1). They all came back to London after a few years. Mainly because of the stress of housing.
I suppose I’m saying it’s very hard out there so he should appreciate his current set up and not throw it away yet.

If DS were to work there he'd obviously go legally with a work visa/permit.

Someone he went to school with has recently set up their own business in the states and seems to be "living it up" and really enjoying life.

DS has fallen in love with India on our recent trips there and has gotten back in touch with his heritage. He wants to potentially explore doing longer stays there. We've discussed and he knows that India is only good if you have money and that the working culture and salary would be different.

He could get a gap year visa in Australia or New Zealand that would be a great adventure for him

He could also do a summer or gap year job in America like camp America or being an au pair for a year

@AzurePanda I wouldn’t be so sure about gay rights. The US is on a big shift if the Orange on stays or Vance carries on. Have a look at the Project 2025 the Trump administration published even before the election. It’s frightening. Everyone said abortion rights are safe, well, they aren’t.

I am utterly thankful that DD has no interest in a uni semester in the US, not just because she is queer but because she could fall pregnant.

Border controls - I don’t mind them being thorough, I think of people with perfectly legal paperwork being detained while trying to enter the US for a work visit or holiday. People are deleting SM from their phones and laptops as they are afraid that there may be an older post making fun of Trump/Vance.

There’s a free travel area between Ireland and the UK, so he could move there and do a random job for a while.

Is Ireland all that different? How different is Dublin?