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RedNine · 24/07/2025 09:21

Vom.

springintoaction321 · 24/07/2025 09:32

Crikey - having worked as a nurse with a lot of diabetic patients, usually the problem is that amputation is left too late - because the poor patient waits for months on end to see a vascular surgeon as they are so few and far between (north west). Sounds to be extremely unlikely he was performing amputations that weren't necessary but will follow with interest .

Rabbitrabbitrun · 24/07/2025 09:34

I saw this and couldn’t quite believe what I was reading. Utterly bizarre doesn’t cover it. I used to work with some surgeons who thought they were god, is this a manifestation of that phenomenon?

archyandmehitabel · 24/07/2025 09:49

FancyNewt · 23/07/2025 23:08

Men are so weird.

Oh yes lets just casually blanket all men as weird under this unique weird grotesque case.

archyandmehitabel · 24/07/2025 09:50

Lemonsugarpancake · 24/07/2025 09:16

It's rather cryptic, isn't it?

Yes until it goes to trial it will be.

BettyBlackbird · 24/07/2025 09:52

archyandmehitabel · 24/07/2025 09:49

Oh yes lets just casually blanket all men as weird under this unique weird grotesque case.

Not all men do this, but from the reporting and court cases to date it seems all the people who do this (and buy the resultant body parts) are men.

archyandmehitabel · 24/07/2025 09:57

BettyBlackbird · 24/07/2025 09:52

Not all men do this, but from the reporting and court cases to date it seems all the people who do this (and buy the resultant body parts) are men.

That still doesn't mean all men in the world are weird in a way that relates to this case.

BettyBlackbird · 24/07/2025 09:59

archyandmehitabel · 24/07/2025 09:57

That still doesn't mean all men in the world are weird in a way that relates to this case.

Of course.

thebrollachan · 24/07/2025 10:13

TheWellSungGame · 24/07/2025 09:12

There's an old article about him from Dorset Ortho, they've understandably now pulled it but it's on the Wayback Machine. It has a few quotes that are bloody weird with hindsight

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20250219020250/www.dorset-ortho.com/offer/neil-hopper-amputation-is-not-the-end-of-the-journey-its-the-beginning" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20250219020250/www.dorset-ortho.com/offer/neil-hopper-amputation-is-not-the-end-of-the-journey-its-the-beginning

“Having my toes removed was by far the worst part; however when both my legs were amputated, after feeling rotten for months, I felt so much better and it was almost a relief to have it done, explains Neil. “I went home on a high - I was alive!”

Also one about how he was upset when his family weren't fussing over him anymore.

An incredibly weird story. Deeply, deeply weird.

This article casts more light:

It became clear that in order to save his legs he would face multiple operations and skin grafts with no guarantee of success.
He also feared having skin grafts on the soles of his feet could be detrimental to him returning to work where he spends much of his time standing.

"I had a chat with the plastic surgeons and I met with the prosthetic nurse and decided actually losing more would give me a better outcome," he said.

"I opted not to have hundreds and hundreds of operations but just to have one to sort it out."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64861273

Neil on a hospital bed

Sepsis: What losing his legs taught surgeon about life

Vascular surgeon Neil Hopper performed hundreds of amputations before losing his own legs to sepsis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64861273

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/07/2025 10:16

BettyBlackbird · 24/07/2025 09:04

I think he made up the sepsis thing in order to claim money from his insurance company. I suppose they wouldn't pay out if he just wrote, 'Had my legs cut off because that's what turns me on' on the claim form.

That said the story is written so hazily it's hard to make out exactly what went on.

He does seem to have genuinely had sepsis. And genuinely needed at least part of his feet/lower leg amputated.

I’m assuming the police have something that will come out at the trial that will make this make more sense and makes them think they will get a conviction on this charge because at the moment it’s mind boggling how it could be proven.

The other charge seems simpler.

BurntoutOverwhelmed · 24/07/2025 10:17

Really not sure what to make of this. I guess more information will come out. Just seems odd to be able to induce sepsis with such a specific outcome as alleged ? What he said about having one operation rather than multiple makes sense as well. There’s clearly a lot to this case so hard to know what to think as from these articles it’s very confusing.

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 24/07/2025 10:26

It appears to be a fetish, but a bloody weird one.

Does anyone remember the Operation Spanner case in the 1980s? Where a group of gay men were prosecuted for masochistic acts despite it all being consensual. There were some details of that which made me want to vomit and I still remember it almost 40 years later.

thebrollachan · 24/07/2025 10:54

He'll surely defeat the fraud charge if he can get the plastic surgeon to confirm that btk amputation was a therapeutically appropriate option (and why would he say anything else?). The insurance payout will probably soften the blow of being sentenced for buying dodgy amputation fetish videos online (what would the sentence even be?).

MrsAvocet · 24/07/2025 11:31

Possibly it's going to come out that the original issue was self inflicted in some way? No idea how, but I can't imagine it would have got as far as court without there being reasonably strong likelihood of a conviction so they must have evidence of wrong doing.. No doubt more will be revealed as time goes on.
The whole thing is very odd. It will be very disturbing for his patients as even if their amputations were genuinely essential they'll be having doubts and just the idea that he was possibly getting some perverse pleasure from the operations is pretty grotesque.

ChompandaGrazia · 24/07/2025 12:20

MrsAvocet · 24/07/2025 11:31

Possibly it's going to come out that the original issue was self inflicted in some way? No idea how, but I can't imagine it would have got as far as court without there being reasonably strong likelihood of a conviction so they must have evidence of wrong doing.. No doubt more will be revealed as time goes on.
The whole thing is very odd. It will be very disturbing for his patients as even if their amputations were genuinely essential they'll be having doubts and just the idea that he was possibly getting some perverse pleasure from the operations is pretty grotesque.

When it was talked about in the radio 4 news they said that he has infected himself to cause sepsis.

OP posts:
thecatneuterer · 24/07/2025 12:52

FancyNewt · 23/07/2025 23:08

Men are so weird.

My first thought too 😂

LivingOnTheVeg · 24/07/2025 12:57

ChompandaGrazia · 23/07/2025 23:05

It’s that encouraged someone else to cut the limbs of others. I’m assuming that this other person is a surgeon. Why was he so easily led?

I’ve just Googled that other guy. He performed castrations and penis amputations in his own home and live-streamed them. I don’t think he needed much persuading. Doesn’t sound like he was at all a surgeon.

EsmaCannonball · 24/07/2025 12:57

Whenever anyone accuses women of moral panic or scaremongering over men's behaviour they should be pointed to stories like this to show exactly what men will do for their kink.

BusterGonad · 05/09/2025 04:05

There's been an update, the surgeon has been jailed.

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 05/09/2025 04:50

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 24/07/2025 10:26

It appears to be a fetish, but a bloody weird one.

Does anyone remember the Operation Spanner case in the 1980s? Where a group of gay men were prosecuted for masochistic acts despite it all being consensual. There were some details of that which made me want to vomit and I still remember it almost 40 years later.

Yes,one thing that I remember was some of them hammered nails through their penis on to pieces of wood.
I mean how bored do you have to be
Fuck it I'm going to get the hammer and nails out the shed and 🤯⚒️my knob.

JustMyView13 · 05/09/2025 04:53

archyandmehitabel · 24/07/2025 09:57

That still doesn't mean all men in the world are weird in a way that relates to this case.

Not all men, but always men.

OhNoNotSusan · 05/09/2025 04:57

he had body dysmorphia, regarding his feet,
how crazy

Reallynotsure25 · 05/09/2025 05:10

Interesting part of the report I read, stating that he wanted to be a woman. Was he going for the Trans defence?

TheSquashyHatofMrGnosspelius · 05/09/2025 06:33

ChompandaGrazia · 23/07/2025 22:32

…. then deliberately gives himself sepsis so he can have his legs amputated.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c75r21ww30vo
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jul/23/cornwall-surgeon-accused-of-over-amputation-of-his-own-legs

what the actual fuck?

He didn't give himself sepsis. He froze his own legs with ice and dry ice and self diagnosed with sepsis and told them he had to have his legs amputated. Frozen legs would look similar so they took him at his word presumably.

SydneyCarton · 05/09/2025 07:39

I don’t think he self-diagnosed, he went to hospital complaining of pain in his feet and was initially treated for suspected sepsis. I assume tests would have eventually ruled it out but by that time the legs couldn’t be saved and amputation was the only option. Obviously he didn’t tell doctors the real cause of the injury.

I don’t understand how he was able to carry out the freezing without his family being aware, unless it was a gradual thing. Unsurprisingly his wife is seeking a divorce.