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PasturesN3w · 10/07/2025 15:27

The Salt Path and even more so, Wild Silence the second book gave me so much strength going through my divorce during lockdown. A triumph over adversity story. I purchased it on audible and listened to it many times; each rendition gave me strength.

Hearing the revelations about the Salt Path and its author Raynor Winn, is obviously so disappointing. Nothing has been proven yet of course and it’s very easy to jump on a critical/eviscerating bandwagon, but we don’t know exactly what went on yet; these are ‘claims’. The police interviewed her and didn’t take it further it seems.

However, Winn has admitted to making ‘mistakes’ in her previous employment and I think there was an NDA around sorting this out. She maintains there was a poor investment in a friend’s business, so we’ll see.

I don’t have a problem with the name change thing because plenty of authors write under a pseudonym and it’s not evidence of any wrong-doing. The CBD /Moth illness thing was addressed by Winn yesterday. He does seem to have a medical condition. I think it was a diagnosis of CBD originally, but now not so much, the letter released seems to imply it’s cardiovascular in nature. Finally, the house in France is a ruin; it’s a four walls falling down with rubble and growth on the inside. There is no running water nor electricity. The journalist admitted this. The land is not worth anything and how would the Winn’s have got to France from UK at the time, and to what end?

All in all it seems the reason for losing their home is possibly shady. Moth does have a condition. They did walk 638 miles and were penniless. The house in France is a red-herring.

I spoke with family about this story. It was pointed out that it’s STILL a very good story and why can’t that stand on its own merit, as semi autobiographical? However, I am personally sad at the revelations, it does completely change how I feel about the book.

Winn isn’t the first and won’t be the last to write semi autobiographical fiction under a different premise, without transparency. I hope she has paid her dues and made amends to her employer, if that’s what happened. I do feel though that the reaction in the media is an overreaction.

Lastly, I saw another article claiming people were ‘demanding back the price of the Salt Path’. Really? I dislike the way the couple are being ripped-apart in the media because in this country it’s ‘innocent until proven guilty’ but you’d never know this reading the articles. As long as there has been financial recompense made (if that’s what’s required) and apologies made, then the outstanding thing for me is that the public were hoodwinked. I don’t choose to take this personally however. I do think the work stands on its own merit, albeit with an entirely different premise.

Moving forwards, I wonder how many times I will listen to the Salt Path now? Honesty is a very important trait for me. My divorce was based lies and the last 10 years of my marriage was a mess of misdirection and gaslighting. I guess that’s what has happened here potentially; we’ve been mislead by The Salt Path and it isn’t a nice feeling at all. That’s where the disappointment lies for me. Nevertheless, personally I am going to give this time to play out before coming to conclusions about the book and its author.

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Mirroredas198 · 10/07/2025 15:50

I don't see what all the fuss is about, it’s just a story book.

DuskyPink1984 · 10/07/2025 16:07

It was always obvious that there was more involved in the house repossession. It was skirted over; 'bad investment on the trusted word of a close friend.' And pretty much left at that. Seemed a very unusual situation.

I did find her quite ungrateful in places during the book and wondered why they didn't stay with friends or family. Also how they were able to have 2 adult children at university at the time of the walk (student loans, work but most parents still need to help out a bit?).

I had the above conversations with a close friend after we had seen the film. We both agreed that she must have applied some artistic license. Quite a lot, as it turns out.

I enjoyed the book and the scenery in the film. Both shine a magical light on a beautiful part of the UK.

I don't feel anything else about it. Moth possibly not being as sick as was stated doesn't make me feel any different about it, either.

If a book inspires people to walk the SW Coast Path, visit the west country or dig themselves out of a hole, that can only be a good thing.

PasturesN3w · 10/07/2025 16:14

Mirroredas198 · 10/07/2025 15:50

I don't see what all the fuss is about, it’s just a story book.

There’s a lot that can be said about your comment. It’s very interesting.

Is it a storybook? Is it a novel, is it autobiographical is it something else? Have you read it?

If you/ me/ we care about literature at all, then it’s possible to dismiss Jane Eyre or The Goldfinch as ‘just storybooks’, but there is so much within those (two random) examples which people love and have loved and are extremely passionate about.

What is the point of literature? What are the books that you love and mean a lot to you?

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Sunflowersinthesummer · 10/07/2025 16:16

Sadly I view it as a work of fiction

madaboutpurple · 10/07/2025 16:17

The lady has conned a lot of people I don't reckon she will be wanted by publishers from now on.

PasturesN3w · 10/07/2025 16:26

madaboutpurple · 10/07/2025 16:17

The lady has conned a lot of people I don't reckon she will be wanted by publishers from now on.

We’ll see.

Winn’s books have made the publisher a lot of money and they are businesses. However, we are in a cancel culture and so it’ll be a bit “wouldn’t touch with a barge pole” for a while.

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TheAutumnCrow · 10/07/2025 16:30

This isn’t really ‘More on the Salt Path revelations’, is it?

It’s your opinion, your agenda, whatever you want to call it.

PasturesN3w · 10/07/2025 16:37

TheAutumnCrow · 10/07/2025 16:30

This isn’t really ‘More on the Salt Path revelations’, is it?

It’s your opinion, your agenda, whatever you want to call it.

Yes and

Exactly.

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minnienono · 10/07/2025 16:40

The illness is definitely a red herring, you can get a diagnosis and then the drs decide it’s something else, many conditions don’t have definitive diagnosis.

changing names are a non issue, common for authors.

House in ruins in France could have been mentioned as the booked implies that they have nothing, one line saying they bought a property outright intended to renovate but it’s in ruins would have solved that “deception”

but it remains that if the principal reason for the loan default was borrowing against the property to repay stolen money it is dishonest to imply it was a bad business decision. Pretty sure the film production company would have run a mile.

ThreeFeetTall · 10/07/2025 16:46

I think it’s pretty shady to lend them money at 18% and then pretty soon sell it to some debt collectors. (Especially lending to people who frankly were unlikely to ever pay it back) Who can pay a large loan called in with 12 months notice?

I don’t think there is any doubt they did actually do the walk? Is there?

Lougle · 10/07/2025 16:53

The fact that the journalist's revelation has caused such shock and outrage indicates that most people understand a certain set of facts from the story, which aren't true. Nobody likes to be deceived.

If the author said in an acknowledgments page, "I was reflecting on my experience of walking along the salt paths and thought 'what if my husband had actually been diagnosed with a life limiting, catastrophic illness and was cured by walking? What if I had lost the house through my kind investment in a business? What if ...' and a story was born...", nobody could have a problem with it. But actually, she's made her money from trading fiction as fact. That's the problem.

PasturesN3w · 10/07/2025 16:56

ThreeFeetTall · 10/07/2025 16:46

I think it’s pretty shady to lend them money at 18% and then pretty soon sell it to some debt collectors. (Especially lending to people who frankly were unlikely to ever pay it back) Who can pay a large loan called in with 12 months notice?

I don’t think there is any doubt they did actually do the walk? Is there?

is that what happened?

If I recall in the story, there was some last minute mitigating evidence that they tried to submit to the court which could’ve saved their house. I imagine it may come out in the end.

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Junioh · 10/07/2025 16:57

I liked the book, partly because I'd love to do a walk like that.

There were three things that bothered me though

  1. Too many unanswered questions about how they lost their house. Very much skirted over and I think the editor should have done a better job guiding this section.
  1. As much as I enjoyed the book, considering that they had children I couldn't relate to them going on the walk versus taking responsibility to rebuild financially.
  1. I didn't like their attitude to the section where they stayed with their friend over winter. They seemed very ungrateful and it didn't make sense that Moth had so many issues with the physical labour yet was fine on the long walk.
PasturesN3w · 10/07/2025 16:58

Lougle · 10/07/2025 16:53

The fact that the journalist's revelation has caused such shock and outrage indicates that most people understand a certain set of facts from the story, which aren't true. Nobody likes to be deceived.

If the author said in an acknowledgments page, "I was reflecting on my experience of walking along the salt paths and thought 'what if my husband had actually been diagnosed with a life limiting, catastrophic illness and was cured by walking? What if I had lost the house through my kind investment in a business? What if ...' and a story was born...", nobody could have a problem with it. But actually, she's made her money from trading fiction as fact. That's the problem.

Yes, its all in the context /presentation

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PasturesN3w · 10/07/2025 17:09

Junioh · 10/07/2025 16:57

I liked the book, partly because I'd love to do a walk like that.

There were three things that bothered me though

  1. Too many unanswered questions about how they lost their house. Very much skirted over and I think the editor should have done a better job guiding this section.
  1. As much as I enjoyed the book, considering that they had children I couldn't relate to them going on the walk versus taking responsibility to rebuild financially.
  1. I didn't like their attitude to the section where they stayed with their friend over winter. They seemed very ungrateful and it didn't make sense that Moth had so many issues with the physical labour yet was fine on the long walk.

Yes the nature part of the book is really inspirational and likewise doing such a mammoth walk is a huge achievement.

From what I can remember, Winn addresses the walking v work issue. Walking seemed to present a repetitive physical challenge outdoors in fresh air that was strengthening to Moth, where as the nature of the indoor building work provided different physical exertion, which wasn’t. She outlines Moths decline in the months they were indoors on a dirty build-site. I also got the feeling that board and lodging wasn’t an entirely fair recompense for all the work that was achieved, but I’m paraphrasing and obvs have no idea what really happened.

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HelpMeGetThrough · 10/07/2025 17:16

OP, you asked how the Winns would have got to France.

walk.

PasturesN3w · 10/07/2025 17:18

HelpMeGetThrough · 10/07/2025 17:16

OP, you asked how the Winns would have got to France.

walk.

Not unless you’re Jesus.

Quite a bit of water in between.

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BarilynBordeaux · 10/07/2025 17:20

The illness is not a red herring because the letters she published about his condition (earliest 2015) are nowhere near him receiving a severe (or even definitive) diagnosis of CBD when they walked the path (2013). His condition is described as indolent and atypical, without the usual progression, For everyone affected by CBD that could be un fucking forgiveable.

HelpMeGetThrough · 10/07/2025 17:20

PasturesN3w · 10/07/2025 17:18

Not unless you’re Jesus.

Quite a bit of water in between.

well, they all but found a cure for his terminal illness, so out doing the Late JC should be a doddle for them.

PasturesN3w · 10/07/2025 17:22

HelpMeGetThrough · 10/07/2025 17:20

well, they all but found a cure for his terminal illness, so out doing the Late JC should be a doddle for them.

😄

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MoominUnderWater · 10/07/2025 17:39

They did walk 638 miles

did they though?

PasturesN3w · 10/07/2025 17:40

There was that bit they did by bus!

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grumpyoldeyeore · 10/07/2025 17:56

You don’t mistakenly embezzle and steal money. It doesn’t accidentally fall into your bank account or pocket.

SociableAtWork · 10/07/2025 17:59

Yeah, did they do any of it? Or did they camp out in France and make up a story?

Like you OP, I feel deceived - I read it during a difficult time, dealing with a medical diagnosis affecting mobility, and felt inspired by them that even if my life went completely to shit, I could perhaps do similar and have some kind of healing/reawakening and miraculous reprieve if not cure 🥲

Now I’m annoyed that (a) she’s a massive thief - stealing from an employer, and a small, local business at that! Seriously WTF - that could have ruined many lives.

And (b) they probably didn’t walk all they said they did, if any at all. And they probably didn’t walk didn’t wild camp.

(c) he didn’t have a miraculous recovery

And on and on. A complete work of fiction written by a criminal would never be published or made into a film. They’ve become hugely wealthy on the back of dishonesty.

The whole thing stinks.

LindorDoubleChoc · 10/07/2025 18:07

I just cannot get over how there have been more than 3000 posts in a week on Mumsnet on this story. Is there honestly that much to say?

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