Best Amazon Prime Day deals: Mumsnet favourites

Best Amazon Prime Day deals:
Mumsnet favourites

Shop now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

New-intake peers always socialise without me--what do i do?

3 replies

AmusedTaupePlayer · 07/07/2025 09:25

Quick context
• Mid-20s woman, mixed-race. We’re a five-person graduate-intake in a London office.
• All of us started the same week. The other four are white guys and girls who seem to have nothing in common apart from the obvious, being white.
• Looking back, all my close friends were people of colour, never white people, despite my best efforts to befriend everyone regardless of their background.

• Every Friday (and plenty of weeknights) they head to the pub, swap project intel and inside jokes. I only find out when Monday rolls around and I’m playing catch-up.
• Same thing with lunches, “quick coffees,” even ad-hoc Teams calls – they loop each other in and “forget” me.

Why it matters

  1. Because we’re the entire peer group, the pub chat is basically our informal training: who to ask for templates, which partner is hiring, hidden pitfalls, etc.
  2. I’ve asked straight up: “Mind if I join next time?” Cue awkward “sure… if you like,” but no invite materialises.
  3. I suggested neutral socials (coffee walk, lunchtime gym class). Polite nods, zero follow-through.
  4. I’m logging project delays caused by missing those pub updates – looks bad on my KPIs.
Complications – Short-term contract, so going nuclear with HR could tank any conversion offer. – Not sure if this is unconscious bias, straight-up racism, or just lazy cliquey behaviour. What do I do about it anyway?

The questions
• How do you tell when to escalate vs. shrug and build “vertical” allies instead?
• Best one-liner to call out “accidental” exclusion without sounding needy or aggressive?

Thanks in advance!

OP posts:
Ukholidaysaregreat · 07/07/2025 09:30

Fuckin hell this is awful. They sound like twats. I think with the short term contract and being 'new' I would be really cautious about going to HR. Could you be in the office on Friday afternoon and say 'Is any one going to the pub?' So sorry I don't have better advice. I think in your shoes I would be looking for a new job somewhere where with a better working environment.

Lafufufu · 07/07/2025 09:34

They sound like twats I've been subject to similar but not race based

Can you expand further on
- I suggested neutral socials (coffee walk, lunchtime gym class). Polite nods, zero follow-through.
- I’m logging project delays caused by missing those pub updates – looks bad on my KPIs

Why wont you go to the pub? It might be easiest to just join them at their destination of choice just from a pragmatic pov if you want the information... presumably its lunch drinks or one after work.

I'm not clear how them socialising is "making you" miss KPIs - if you are misisng info fundamental to the role can you not schedule time in office or email and request info?

If its just socialising there isnt much ypu can do. I would look to find someone senior woth a similar background and ask if they'd mentor you

AmusedTaupePlayer · 07/07/2025 09:42

Lafufufu · 07/07/2025 09:34

They sound like twats I've been subject to similar but not race based

Can you expand further on
- I suggested neutral socials (coffee walk, lunchtime gym class). Polite nods, zero follow-through.
- I’m logging project delays caused by missing those pub updates – looks bad on my KPIs

Why wont you go to the pub? It might be easiest to just join them at their destination of choice just from a pragmatic pov if you want the information... presumably its lunch drinks or one after work.

I'm not clear how them socialising is "making you" miss KPIs - if you are misisng info fundamental to the role can you not schedule time in office or email and request info?

If its just socialising there isnt much ypu can do. I would look to find someone senior woth a similar background and ask if they'd mentor you

Edited

I did ask them about pub but they never invited me aahhaa

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread