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How to approach health concerns with elderly parent

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LongGinShortTonic · 02/07/2025 14:01

I'm hoping others have been through this and are able to advise on how to deal with this - I want to be sensitive and supportive and handle it well. Sorry it's long, didn't want to drip feed.

DM is 81, physically relatively fit, plays golf twice a week, gets out and about and has a good social life. DF is 86, much physically frailer but still totally on the ball and takes himself off to see friends and do things with glee. I live 200 miles away, my brother in mainland Europe. We both see and talk to them regularly.

For the past year I have been concerned about DM, and my recent visit has brought matters to a head. She is, although a difficult character and the reason I have had a lot of therapy, to all intents and purposes outgoing and lovely. Various signs have been dismissed by other family members such as endlessly repeating the same stories, getting her words muddled up, insisting that I'm making words up - it's like she doesn't recognise them, last week she insisted I passed her the sieve when we were at the dinner table, she meant the salt and told me off for using the wrong word - wearing clothing combinations she would not have been seen in a couple of years ago, making irrational decisions about stuff to give away, insisting she can smell something when it isn't there (DF had the gas board out last week and she didn't believe that there wasn't a gas leak so was spraying perfume around). She get dates muddled up, insists that emails have been sent when they haven't, and is a world class holder of grudges. She is increasingly making horrible comments that she clearly thinks no one else can hear, whether it's about immigration or weight or crying children - she has completely lost her social graces. She is also, having been a very good cook all her life, serving up increasingly strange food.

Following my visit I spoke to my brother about my concerns because I now feel things have gone too far and she needs to be checked. My fear isn't so much dementia as something like stroke or a growth. I think she is also aware something is wrong and part of the aggression is that she is scared, which is completely understandable. He agrees with me and is backing me 100% that she be assessed. A couple of family friends who are aware also agree.

I spoke to my father yesterday. He respected the conversation, appreciated me addressing the elephant in the room, and asked for 48 hours to think about how to handle it. He recognised 85% of the behaviours and incidents I raised and is going to call me tomorrow whilst she is at golf to discuss his thoughts.

How do we address it with her? I know exactly what will happen. It'll be 'my children think I'm going mad' and I don 't want a huge family fall out. If there is something ahead to be faced surely we are better to know and face it, or to have it treated before it becomes untreatable. If there is nothing, we accept her as she is (whilst constantly pushing back on the inappropriate comments, as we all do).

I don't even know what I'll be asking the GP to do. It's not like I can march in there and demand a neurologist appointment or a brainscan - or is that what I'm asking for?

Really appreciate it if you've got this far.

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NotAntisocialJustSelectivelySocial · 02/07/2025 14:13

There are lots of easily treatable conditions which can cause confusion and/or memory loss.
Low B12, low folate, low vitamin D, low iron -the first thing to do would be to suggest it might be an idea for her to speak to the GP and ask for blood tests to rule some issues out. If they are okay then you can ask the GP to refer to the memory clinic, they generally sort out scans etc.

LongGinShortTonic · 02/07/2025 14:24

She had a period of fainting lots last year and they did loads of blood tests and everything was fine, although I think this issue predates that

Will look up memory clinic, thank you

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NotAntisocialJustSelectivelySocial · 02/07/2025 14:28

It’s worth noting that the reference range for B12 has recently changed, it was previously Set too low. It’s also worth knowing that people can be symptomatic in the low end of normal range for many of those tests I’ve listed.
Did they also check thyroid?
It’s also perfectly possible to have ‘normal’ blood test results one year, yet results to be out of range the next.

You really need to know what the blood tests were and what the results were, as well as how they compared to the labs reference ranges.

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Lepicnic · 02/07/2025 15:41

Some GP’s - well my DM’s did - will see you to discuss your concerns & may then suggest you book in with your DM with a view to them informally assessing her memory then & on the basis of those results, a referral to the memory clinic where they formally assess for dementia etc. Prior to any referral the GP will want up to date bloods & will test for any water infections or anything to rule out other causes. Having been a prior patient myself at my DM’s practice really helped in my case as I already knew her GP. However I did have to say I had got some concerns about my mum’s memory etc when she raised it & give examples which of course my mum was mortified by & felt understandably like I was betraying her. Equally at the memory clinic too so it is an unavoidable & really uncomfortable process, but that is nonetheless necessary to receive appropriate care & support for them. Maybe you could go with your DF to see her GP in the first instance? And go down the route of just checking to make sure all is ok - further referral is just to rule out anything & get help if any is needed down the line kind of approach? Not easy OP for anyone x

Iamnofool · 02/07/2025 15:51

I would wait and see what your DF says when he has had time to think about it. Work together on this one.

LongGinShortTonic · 02/07/2025 17:42

Thank you all. Of course your mind goes to the worst case scenario, but hopefully it will be something simpler to solve.

I did think that DF making an appointment and a supporting email to the GP from me and my brother might help. It’s how to get mum to the doctors and talk to her about it that concerns me most at the moment. It will not be taken well.

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RentalWoesNotFun · 02/07/2025 19:24

A uti can make an elderly person go a bit mad. She could get a sample done.

Maybe you could tell her she and your dad are both to get a check up as the nhs are doing it for all people of their ages in this area.

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